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Do you think giving birth in Belfast will become a thing post Brexit?

431 replies

Lalaloveyou2020 · 19/01/2021 12:01

Since 2005 a person born on the island of Ireland (including NI) to Irish or British parents has a right to apply for Irish citizenship/a passport. I read an article in the FT yesterday discussing the obstacles UK business travellers would face in a post Brexit word, which ended with this:

"There’s one group that will do well out of this: UK-based EU passport holders, who will be able to advertise themselves, both to British employers and to EU service buyers, as being able to travel unhindered around the bloc. Best-placed of all will be Irish passport holders, who can not only travel in the EU, but live and work freely in the UK too. Cecil Rhodes, the British mining magnate and colonialist, once described being English as “the greatest prize in the lottery of life”. Post-Brexit, it’s the Irish who hold the winning ticket."

If you really really wanted your child to have access to the EU in the future, would you be willing to move to Belfast for your birth so that your child could then claim an Irish Passport?

This is meant as a light-hearted discussion more than anything else, though if anyone from NI could chime in on how difficult it would actually be to do, please do so! Reason for going to Northern Ireland over the Republic is the access to the NHS and an automatic right to be both Irish and British at birth.

OP posts:
FedUpWithBriiiiick · 19/01/2021 20:50

New rule: if you can't name 5 traybakes, you can't come here to have your weans.

NI Citizenship test.

BadEyeBri · 19/01/2021 20:51

@FedUpWithBriiiiick Depends who's asking and what day of the week
Amazed at the toaster thing. Will try it out at work tomorrow. Equalities commission phone will be off the hook

BadEyeBri · 19/01/2021 20:52

@FedUpWithBriiiiick

New rule: if you can't name 5 traybakes, you can't come here to have your weans.

NI Citizenship test.

Wins the thread
Piglet89 · 19/01/2021 20:53

@FedUpWithBriiiiick

Aye, they’re stuck now, boy!

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 19/01/2021 20:54

[quote Piglet89]@FedUpWithBriiiiick

Aye, they’re stuck now, boy! [/quote]
😂😂😂

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 19/01/2021 20:57

"There's a three car pile up on the Westlink, and the Peelers are 6 miles away dealing with a punishment beating, how long does it take you to get home in time to see Julian Simmons introduce Corrie?"

Piglet89 · 19/01/2021 20:58

@FedUpWithBriiiiick wins the tender to become the Birth Tourism Assessment Provider.

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 19/01/2021 20:59

[quote Piglet89]@FedUpWithBriiiiick wins the tender to become the Birth Tourism Assessment Provider.[/quote]
I thank you very much

ReallySpicyCurry · 19/01/2021 20:59

I'm not even looking at the tray bake thread again. I'm not doing it til myself.

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 19/01/2021 21:00

@FedUpWithBriiiiick

"There's a three car pile up on the Westlink, and the Peelers are 6 miles away dealing with a punishment beating, how long does it take you to get home in time to see Julian Simmons introduce Corrie?"
This is a trick question by the way: You're already home watching the telly 'cause you've got six weans and yer on the dole YEEEOOOOOO
Piglet89 · 19/01/2021 21:07

For the entitled English on the thread, here’s your revision for the question in the mock devised by @FedUpWithBriiiiick

Piglet89 · 19/01/2021 21:08

“Youse at home with have a different bucket”.

GOLDEN.

YouBoughtMeAWall · 19/01/2021 21:20

Oh I do miss joolyin!!

Sindragosan · 19/01/2021 21:22

@FedUpWithBriiiiick

New rule: if you can't name 5 traybakes, you can't come here to have your weans.

NI Citizenship test.

Name? If you can't make 5 different traybakes you're not a suitable member of society.

Bonus question: how many rounds of sandwiches can you get out of a loaf, and how many loaves do you need for an average sized congregation?

BadEyeBri · 19/01/2021 21:23

Pissing meself.
Yes mucker 👍🏻

FedUpWithBriiiiick · 19/01/2021 21:26

NAAAAIII on the UTV

Piglet89 · 19/01/2021 21:26

@mnhq this thread has taken a classic Northern Irish turn. #classic

UpTheLaganInABubble · 19/01/2021 21:26

@FedUpWithBriiiiick

New rule: if you can't name 5 traybakes, you can't come here to have your weans.

NI Citizenship test.

🤣
BlackBucketOfCheese · 19/01/2021 21:31

New rule: if you can't name 5 traybakes, you can't come here to have your weans.

🤣

Piglet89 · 19/01/2021 21:35

No denying - the craic’s mighty.

GrumpyHoonMain · 19/01/2021 21:36

I personally wouldn’t travel to Belfast to give birth. Mainly because in the future when things like free entitlement to NHS / government services is being evaluated - I imagine having any Irish place of birth would warrant further checks.

Plus once the political furore calms down and we start getting decent trade deals I imagine British citizens might get better free trade (and movement) deals with high growth countries like the USA / India and SE Asian countries than European countries would as smaller populations tend to get access to special visas that larger populations don’t.

If in the future my son wants an Irish passport he can do it the traditional ways by either moving there or marrying there. I don’t want to hamper his future prospects by deciding for him while things are so uncertain.

BadEyeBri · 19/01/2021 21:42

@GrumpyHoonMain

I personally wouldn’t travel to Belfast to give birth. Mainly because in the future when things like free entitlement to NHS / government services is being evaluated - I imagine having any Irish place of birth would warrant further checks.

Plus once the political furore calms down and we start getting decent trade deals I imagine British citizens might get better free trade (and movement) deals with high growth countries like the USA / India and SE Asian countries than European countries would as smaller populations tend to get access to special visas that larger populations don’t.

If in the future my son wants an Irish passport he can do it the traditional ways by either moving there or marrying there. I don’t want to hamper his future prospects by deciding for him while things are so uncertain.

You do realise that Belfast is in the UK?
YouBoughtMeAWall · 19/01/2021 21:43

You do realise that Belfast is in the UK?

For now

GrumpyHoonMain · 19/01/2021 21:48

@BadEyeBri - it may be in the UK but I bet within a year or two people born in NI will need to prove UK residency for all services and some goods periodiocally in the way people of CI and US origin do. Too much scope for financial crime otherwise.

JaneJeffer · 19/01/2021 21:52

You Grin