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With thanks to @FridayNightAtTheBronzer for thread title

As far as the wall, it's not enough to stop building it. Parts of it (built and not yet built) have torn up and destroyed sensitive plant and animal habitat and migratory paths.

Stop and cancel any future work building the wall, but re-direct any monies left to tearing down sections and/or rehabilitating the destroyed areas. Hell, you could probably recruit a virtual army of volunteers, including plant and animal biologists who would be willing to do the work for nothing under supervision of Govt experts.

They should have asked Chris Grayling to take over

Or Dido Harding

@DuncinToffee

They should have asked Chris Grayling to take over

Or Dido Harding

Maybe we could ship all our useless thundercunts out to the US of A. Douglas Carswell has already found out it's a new Eden in Mississippi.

Well said Across, that is exactly why saying 'We really don't care about a wall that we knew it was never going to be built. is rather naive.

I wonder if my new idea of "Hide your face from the FBI, wear this Nigel Farage mask" post on FB could take off ?

Just wear this, and watch as UK police get bogged down in a lorry park in Kent investigating

DGR Not sure if our US friends will agree to that, they might want to offer an exchange

Couldn't you have posted a trigger warning DGR, my eyes!

@DuncinToffee

Couldn't you have posted a trigger warning DGR, my eyes!

Why would the sight of a red blooded patriot scare you ?

You're not a commie are you ?

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@DuncinToffee

Well said Across, that is exactly why saying 'We really don't care about a wall that we knew it was never going to be built. is rather naive.

I really don't care about the physical existence of a wall that doesn't exist and could never have been built as advertised. (In reply to the question about it being knocked down)

The financing of it is a different issue, and it is part of a broader problem of corruption and misappropriation of funds. And we do and should worry about that.

I suppose taking it down to the bare concrete foundation would re-establish the wildlife corridors, but the habitat destroyed to make all the roads and infrastructure in general will take a long time to recover even if that is done.

Apologies Lweji, I did misquote you there. I meant it more as a general statement and I should have made that clearer.

"Wow. That guy really tells it like it is in simple and understandable words.

Unfortunately, the cult members don't like simple and understandable. They like double-speak and buzz-words."

@AcrossthePond55 - I fear the video is too long for the average Trump (fan).

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

I suppose taking it down to the bare concrete foundation would re-establish the wildlife corridors, but the habitat destroyed to make all the roads and infrastructure in general will take a long time to recover even if that is done.

If Covid has taught us anything, it's that nature is amazing.

When the great storm hit in 1987, there was a great wailing over the destruction of millions of trees. Yet less than a year later the changes that caused in the ecosystem were profound and unexpected.

Man needs to worry about natures plans. Not the reverse.

I've only just seen this, my apologies if it has already been mentioned on here, I missed it, if so:
Pentagon confirms military will not hold traditional farewell ceremony for Trump

"The Pentagon, in a break with recent tradition, will not host an Armed Forces Farewell tribute to President Donald Trump."

"It’s a shame, but not a surprise. Trump will leave office in disgrace, one week after the House voted a second time for his impeachment, two weeks after his supporters staged a deadly siege in the Capitol Building, six months after he dragged his Joint Chiefs chairman into a political firestorm, and after four years of nonstop assaults on truth. One of those disgraces is how he is ghosting the U.S. troops that he commanded".

"On Wednesday, the White House announced that this weekend Vice President Mike Pence “will deliver remarks to sailors on the Trump Administration’s historic foreign policy achievements at Naval Air Station Lemoore,” and then to the 10th Mountain Division, in Fort Drum, New York. Two senior defense officials confirmed to Defense One on Thursday that no military farewell is being planned for the commander in chief."

If I were Trump, I would not be at all happy. I thought he was supposed to be organising an alternate inauguration event on January 20th, obviously this won't be it!

Personally, I'd would not have (and indeed have not) joined the military. And I'm enough of a hippy to rather we didn't need soldiers at all; and to rather that the soldiers we did have were actually defending my country, rather than invading someone elses.

With an understanding that geopolitics is complex and it's entirely possible that my army in your country is doing more to protect my country than if it were squarebashing at Sandhurst.

All that said, I'm grateful there are people that do that job, and for the freedoms that their existence allows me and my family to enjoy. Not just in a momentary transient fashion, but the past decades and centuries and hopefully future decades and centuries.

So how someone as clever as Trump thought calling them "losers" would play out is a little bit of a mystery. The only conclusion I can come to is that Donald Trump isn't very bright, and just can't help himself.

I'm relieved to read that Jai. I never thought I would be delighted at a Pentagon statement, but these are strange times.

Trump must be foaming in rage at this. I can't see him going quietly and with dignity. Full meltdown predicted.

The New York Times @nytimes
Exclusive: In the final days before President Trump leaves office, some of his allies are collecting fees from wealthy felons to push the White House for pardons, according to documents and interviews with more than three dozen lobbyists and lawyers.

Former CIA officer John Kiriakou sought a pardon from the president so he could carry a gun and receive his pension after being convicted of illegally disclosing classified information.

He was told it could be floated to the White House, for a price.

www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

[quote RedToothBrush]The New York Times @nytimes
Exclusive: In the final days before President Trump leaves office, some of his allies are collecting fees from wealthy felons to push the White House for pardons, according to documents and interviews with more than three dozen lobbyists and lawyers.

Former CIA officer John Kiriakou sought a pardon from the president so he could carry a gun and receive his pension after being convicted of illegally disclosing classified information.

He was told it could be floated to the White House, for a price.

www.nytimes.com/2021/01/17/us/politics/trump-pardons.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur[/quote]
Now that does sound indictable.

@cyclingmad

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realpolitik

Some photos of the streets in Washington DC

Emily Purser Brown @EmilyPurser

Scenes from my journey to work today. There are more than 15k National Guard in DC now. I had to pass three checkpoints and a sniffer dog - no getting around how eerie the city has become

twitter.com/emilypurser/status/1350834310606180353?s=21

[quote DuncinToffee]Some photos of the streets in Washington DC

Emily Purser Brown @EmilyPurser

Scenes from my journey to work today. There are more than 15k National Guard in DC now. I had to pass three checkpoints and a sniffer dog - no getting around how eerie the city has become

twitter.com/emilypurser/status/1350834310606180353?s=21[/quote]
While the potential for violence is increased, I have to admit a tactic like this has one advantage. It will put a lie to the myth that every other American is somehow totally behind Trump and believes the various crackpot stories doing the rounds.

Because if there really were that number, then 15,000 (was it raised to 20,000) isn't even going to slow them down.

In fact the only thing that will slow the few hundred rentarednecks down will be their stopping every few yards to take selfies.

Admittedly it doesn't look brilliant to the world. But it's Americans that need to see it first. And be in equal measure reassured, ashamed, and horrified.

Admittedly it doesn't look brilliant to the world. But it's Americans that need to see it first. And be in equal measure reassured, ashamed, and horrified.
Pence was on the TV addressing some troops( missed the start so not sure where).
Apparently, Trumps legacy of "never having started a War", has been met with derision by News reporting from all over the world pointing at the troops on DC streets.
"The War At Home" it's being called.
Looking at those pictures reminded me of the streets of NI, at the height of the Troubles.
(As they were euphemistically called.)

So how someone as clever as Trump thought calling them "losers" would play out is a little bit of a mystery. The only conclusion I can come to is that Donald Trump isn't very bright, and just can't help himself.

It relates to his statement that he could shoot someone on the street and still win the election, or something similar. I think he is convinced of this. That all publicity is good publicity. Possibly why losing the election came as a shock.
He thinks he's smarter than everyone else and can fool them. Well, you can fool everyone for a short time, or some people all the time, but not everyone all the time. And his time is up.

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom

"Wow. That guy really tells it like it is in simple and understandable words.

Unfortunately, the cult members don't like simple and understandable. They like double-speak and buzz-words."

@AcrossthePond55 - I fear the video is too long for the average Trump (fan).

Sigh. Hadn't thought about that. Maybe he should just have said "Trump bad. Biden good."

And thanks for the info on no 'sendoff' for Scrotus. I just cringed at the thought of i I think it's like the 'hyuge' May Day style parade of weapons the Pentagon put the kibosh on some time ago. He can try and 'order' shit but unlike with his various businesses he's dealing with people unafraid to say 'no'.