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Biden our time until Inauguration Day! (Trump #121) 🙂🕊

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Roussette · 15/01/2021 16:01

Previous thread...
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4134370-Impeachment-of-Trump-and-Inauguration-of-Biden-120?watched=1&msgid=103674623#103674623

With thanks to @FridayNightAtTheBronzer for thread title Smile

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Tellmetruth4 · 17/01/2021 08:55

Yes I read about them having to tape together important documents. Surely that’s against standards and ethics and is a punishable offence? Where are his advisors/people even his daughter. Can literally nobody say ‘no’ to him. He can only behave like that if those closest to him enable him.

JamieLeesCurtains · 17/01/2021 08:59

That White House records story is extraordinary.

Can Trump be prosecuted for it? I sincerely hope so.

chomalungma · 17/01/2021 08:59

Just a few days to go...

I wonder what pardons will come up?

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/16/us-capitol-rioters-donald-trump-pardons

JamieLeesCurtains · 17/01/2021 09:01

He won't pardon the 'low class' people, I reckon. He's too vain.

HoneysuckIejasmine · 17/01/2021 09:02

Can he pardon without somehow implicating himself? Though if he can he might as so many are using "but trump told us to do it" as their criminal defence.

Tellmetruth4 · 17/01/2021 09:03

He can’t pardon the rioters as that would strengthen the impeachment case against him. His accusers will say pardoning demonstrates that he was in collusion with and is sympathetic with terrorists making a coup attempt.

minou123 · 17/01/2021 09:08

[quote TheNorthWestPawsage]Catfishing 101 - Women on Bumble luring men to send them riot pics then sending those to FBI.

Bumble removed its political filter after people said they used it to lure conservatives who were at the Capitol riot into sending incriminating evidence.
www.businessinsider.com/bumble-removes-political-filter-encouraged-find-capitol-rioters-evidence-2021-1[/quote]
I particularly love the comment

with John Sipher, a former CIA spy, commenting: "Well played."
Grin

Roussette · 17/01/2021 09:09

I'm very interested to see who Trump uses for his legal team for the impeachment case.

Dershowitz has declined. Sekulow (his lawyer) is not going to be part of it. Rudy says he is but Trump denies that he will be. What poor sod is going to be coerced into this?

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redcandlelight · 17/01/2021 09:15

would his tweet history also be presidentisl documents that have to be printed out one by one preserved and filed?
or can he weasel out by saying they were 'private'?

cricketballs3 · 17/01/2021 09:16

I've lurked these threads for the last 4 years, occasionally asking the odd question to which has prompted this Q

I know that the timeline between election and inauguration relates to when the constitution was written i.e. transport etc however isn't the chaos that's been witnessed since November an indication that this window needs to be seriously shortened

cyclingmad · 17/01/2021 09:16

Will Biden now take down that wall....since he has made his election promises about reversing what Trump has done. Yet to hear about that one

Lweji · 17/01/2021 09:17

Bill Maher with a provocative, but to the point IMO, as to why some people end up voting GOP, and are disillusioned with the Democrats.

Not a bad thing, necessarily, unless the party they vote for has become a den of dangerous far-right and/or narcisist leaders and activists.

thesunwillout · 17/01/2021 09:17

Big lurker here, probably the bigliest lurker ever.

I've been thinking about the supporters who are pissed off at Trump and that speech he gave saying, basically that he didn't support them.

Who would be finding out what they're planning, re inauguration demonstrations, clashes.
It's concerning to think there's a tidal wave of anger and backlash brewing.

Has there been any more info about these very angry supporters and what's happening.

prettybird · 17/01/2021 09:18

@redcandlelight

would his tweet history also be presidentisl documents that have to be printed out one by one preserved and filed? or can he weasel out by saying they were 'private'?
....and will they be printed/stored with the Twitter warnings about being disputed/false Grin
Roussette · 17/01/2021 09:19

Great news...

inews.co.uk/news/world/joe-biden-visit-uk-june-cornwall-g7-summit-832852

Carbis Bay is lovely, couldn't pick a nicer place Grin

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Lweji · 17/01/2021 09:20

@cyclingmad

Will Biden now take down that wall....since he has made his election promises about reversing what Trump has done. Yet to hear about that one
What wall?

There's no wall. Grin

The US has always had parts of the border with a fence, which is what Trump built in a tiny section of the border.
Democratic governments have always had limitations to immigration.

Grin
Roussette · 17/01/2021 09:24

I know that the timeline between election and inauguration relates to when the constitution was written i.e. transport etc however isn't the chaos that's been witnessed since November an indication that this window needs to be seriously shortened

I totally agree cricket. I think someone said before that changes to the Constitution are notoriously difficult and most States have to agree and I wonder if that would happen

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Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 17/01/2021 09:28

I see @RedToothBrush mentioned this last night, but I didn't find a link to any articles about it, so here's one from the Washington Post (apologies if somebody has already linked to it!):
Misinformation dropped dramatically the week after Twitter banned Trump
It has made me giggle with glee!

borntobequiet · 17/01/2021 09:35

Will Biden now take down that wall

Rather puzzling that anyone thought there actually was “a wall”. Maybe another confusion with Game of Thrones.

prettybird · 17/01/2021 09:36

I've only recently started contributing to these threads and previously had only dipped in and out. I have to say that they are really informative (like the Westministender threads, a good way of keeping up to date) with a variety of interesting links.

I hadn't realised that the Democrats and Republicans had "flipped" for example. I'd been confused when I'd learnt that the Democrats had originally been mostly the slave owners whereas the Republicans were those in favour of support for the poor, but the article from the Houston Chronicle explained some of the background.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 17/01/2021 09:37

@cricketballs3

I've lurked these threads for the last 4 years, occasionally asking the odd question to which has prompted this Q

I know that the timeline between election and inauguration relates to when the constitution was written i.e. transport etc however isn't the chaos that's been witnessed since November an indication that this window needs to be seriously shortened

I agree. The historical precedent seems very outdated now. (And apparently it used to be March not January!)

But even so, because of the size of 21st C government I would think that logistics are partly to blame. The machinery of American government is huge, a multi-trillion dollar operation with millions of employees. Shifting power from one administration to the next must be a logistical nightmare.

Even if transitions cannot be instantaneous, surely they can be shorter? And Congress should consider the possibility of banning "midnight rulemaking" by outgoing administrations after Election Day.

The 20th Amendment to the Constitution, adopted in 1933, moved the beginning and ending of the terms of the president and vice president from March 4 to January 20, thereby also shortening the transition period. After the election, an outgoing president is commonly referred to as a lame duck president. A transition can also arise intra-term if a president dies, resigns or is removed from office, though the period may be very short.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_transition

lionheart · 17/01/2021 09:39

I'd like to be in Carbis Bay.

lionheart · 17/01/2021 09:42

@thesunwillout

Big lurker here, probably the bigliest lurker ever.

I've been thinking about the supporters who are pissed off at Trump and that speech he gave saying, basically that he didn't support them.

Who would be finding out what they're planning, re inauguration demonstrations, clashes.
It's concerning to think there's a tidal wave of anger and backlash brewing.

Has there been any more info about these very angry supporters and what's happening.

Hello Bigliest lurker. Smile

www.newsweek.com/protesters-following-presidents-orders-hurt-argument-that-trump-didnt-incite-violence-1562134

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 17/01/2021 09:42

Information about the development of America's right wing militias.
www.facebook.com/241446929332714/posts/2572528019557915/?sfnsn=scwspmo

lionheart · 17/01/2021 09:43

Not over yet.

www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jan/16/sacred-native-american-land-arizona-oak-flat

'As one of its last acts, the Trump administration has set in motion the transfer of sacred Native American lands to a pair of Anglo-Australian mining conglomerates.

The 2,422-acre Arizona parcel called Oak Flat is of enormous significance to the Western Apache and is now on track for destruction by what is slated to be one of the largest copper mining operations in the United States.

Steps for the controversial land transfer from the US government, which owns the land, to the miners were completed on Friday morning, when a final environmental assessment was published. The government must soon transfer title to the land.

Native Americans in the area have compared it to historical attacks on their tribes. “What was once gunpowder and disease is now replaced with bureaucratic negligence,” said Wendsler Nosie, founder of activist organization Apache Stronghold and a member of the Apache band descended from Geronimo. “Native people are treated as something invisible or gone. We are not. We don’t want to be pushed around any more.”'

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