To be a bit jealous of over 50 holiday bookings

[Toomuch2019]

I probably am but here goes

I was reading an article about surges in over 50s holiday bookings driven by the fact that they are anticipating getting vaccinated soon.

And I'm finding myself incredibly envious that there is a subset of the population that will be able to go about living normally and going abroad while the rest of us are locked away waiting for a vaccine.

I don't feel like I can plan anything holiday wise at least abroad right now as there is no timeline on vaccines for under 50s and I don't want to risk getting ill in another country. Particularly if insurances will only cover vaccinated people (which isn't the case yet but can see it moving in that direction).

I know there is no answer and obviously I'm not arguing vaccines aren't in right order but does anyone else feel wound up with articles like this rubbing it in?

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/business-55654127

There’s a calculator here www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk that gives you a rough idea as to when you should be vaccinated. Not sure how accurate it is but I’ve been checking it for a few weeks now and mine has varied between getting the first dose in June this year and July next year.

@Fuckety

There’s a calculator here www.omnicalculator.com/health/vaccine-queue-uk that gives you a rough idea as to when you should be vaccinated. Not sure how accurate it is but I’ve been checking it for a few weeks now and mine has varied between getting the first dose in June this year and July next year.

I don't think it's very reliable. It says DH will get his in April (nearly 60, NHS with heart problem) and he's already had it.

My 20 something step kids have good jobs and homes obtained on their own. They didn't go to university. They did not see it as worth their time or money. Many young people are fully capable of making a future for themselves without joining this pity party, and they do.

And no, not all pensioners had the opportunity to go to university, especially if you were female. You were often taken out of school, like my mother, to work. She is only in her 60s. She isn't rolling in it. She lives in a small bungalow with only the state pension after living years as a single parent.

Me and DH are late 50s and I can assure you we have no intention of booking a holiday abroad in the next 12 months - vaccine or no vaccine. My mid 70's neighbours however have had at least 3 holidays abroad in the last 12 months including disappearing for 3 weeks over Christmas. I'm pretty sure they'll be on the next available plane out of here as soon as they've had their vaccines.

@Icanseegreenshoots

cheltenham In your neck of the woods maybe, but I guess you are conveniently forgetting all of the young people that simply can not afford to go to uni, and do not have parents that can help them. So they don't get to have a university education at all. University is fast becoming an education and option just for the wealthy as you have just confirmed, and how is that progress exactly?

At least pensioners had the opportunity to get into a good university because they were free, if they were bright enough. Now you have to pay tens of thousands of pounds to get a decent education, and the debt hanging over the young for decades should they be lucky enough to get a job at the end of it all. Yet we still have people like you saying it is 'fine' for young people when that is not the experience of so many. You are clearly just speaking from your own bubble of privilege with no clue at all as how others are faring.

Entrance to university is the easiest it has ever been in terms of grades needed. Back in the days of free university places only the most academic managed to get in. Today that has changed and now it has gone too much the other way.

IMO if you cannot get decent grades then academia is not for you. Go the apprenticeship/trade/other route and do not incur the debt that a) may never be repaid and b) is hanging over your head for 30 years.

However, for those who do go to university, I couldn't agree more that they shouldn't have to pay, and I do feel for many of the young people of today as being young in this pandemic must be very stifling.

As parents we know that but all generations faced challenges and my generation of parent has taken on the burden of helping the next generation as we are told to by the government policy.

Those who don't have that get higher loans, so they are not disadvantaged. Anyone who is minded to can go to university today and if they are happy to take on the loans that is quite rightly their prerogative.

I do not live in a privileged bubble, my line of work precludes that!

The most alarming thing about this story is that as a 54-year-old, I am now supposed to be interested in going on a coach holiday to the seaside.

I think I’d prefer to stay at home tbf.

im over 50 and am in the last group of people to be vaccinated - and im asthmatic.

So if im last as an over 50 how can I book a holiday as I have no idea when ill get vaccinated?

Everybody needs to stop resenting and blaming everybody else.

Be interesting to see how much the poster who seems to spend all day every day flitting from inflammatory post to inflammatory post dragging the chip on their shoulder behind them has paid in taxes and NI over the years.

Sorry only read your op but the vaccine calculator thing seemed to suggest that once over 50s are done it will be straight onto the next age group down. I'll be 50 soon but people I know who are a couple of years younger came soon after when they did the calculator. I'm desperate for the vax as if I die my kids will be orphans. I'm the only parent left. I don't care about holidays

@PurplePlain agree

ive just booked many small chunks of annual leave through the year and have planned day trips in my local area and activity stuff local to me or a bit further away - them as things change I can make last minute plans

we need to adapt and make use of what we have instead of looking at what others might be doing.

added to which I can't be going with keep cancelling holiday as we go in and out of lockdown

No doubt you will have the last laugh, OP.

@PuppyMonkey,the most alarming thing for me us that sitting in a big bus looking out of the window quite appeals! Now where did I leave my beige jacket and useful bag.

In my family the two people who've been vaccinated are in their 20s or 30s , neither of my 90 year old in-laws have been called up yet. My DH is in his mid 60s and has health issues is expected to be called up mid April

@randomer oh go on then, I’ll save you a seat.

@Toomuch2019

I'm feeling bad for posting now. I didn't mean to start such an angry fight.

It has made me think a lot so thanks to those who posted that IABU, particularly as jealousy of those who are vulnerable is not a nice emotion, I accept that.

I guess what I was looking for was some shared empathy "yes it's crap isn't it, I get why you are riled, the bbc shouldn't be publishing things like this as it is sh*t stirring. But don't worry one day this will all be forgotten". Thank you to those who understood what I meant and that I wasn't trying to antagonise things. But I can see that was shortsighted and should have seen where it would go.

I'll leave the thread now as I understand IABU.

Thanks for coming back to say that @Toomuch2019. [flowers} I think so many of us are struggling right now whatever age we are, whatever situation we are in. It is all too easy to get angry with one another (I include myself in that!).

Argh fail!

I was thinking about it earlier and perhaps it's not about getting the vaccine themselves but knowing that their parents or CEV relatives will be vaccinated and protected so if they do infect them, the chance of them getting very ill/dying is less of a worry.

I know that once my DM and DH are vaccinated it will take some pressure off, despite us all having to keep to the rules and on our guard.

Also I have friends in their 50's who have teen/ young adult children at home and elderly parents and are working themselves so I dont begrudge them a break to be honest!!

I’ve had the vaccine with the second booked in and there is still no way I would be travelling. My DH wouldn’t have it until probably Autumn/Winter (he is last 30s) and there is still going to be social distancing. It’s rubbish.

Even if you have the vaccine you can still pass the virus onto others. Not worth it for a holiday.

Over 50 is old?

Oh dear, I'd better cancel my trips later in the year to Jamaica and New York!

Even if you have the vaccine you can still pass the virus onto others.

Not definite; just not yet proven otherwise.

I've just booked my Mum's vaccination for her. She's 83. The earliest date I could get for her second jab was 26 April. I doubt that many 60 year olds will be vaccinated by the summer, let alone 50 year olds!

Also, if the figures are TUI, I imagine their customers are more mature - still like the ease of a package deal. Most younger people are going to be booking holidays independently, not through somewhere like that. I bet they are still booking though.

I don’t think people are annoyed at the over 50s on an individual level but on a societal one.

I’m far mor worried and pissed off about my older teenagers and what they have/are missing out on than anything else. I have a first year uni student who should be having the time of his life...and a 17 year old who is stuck inside studying online and not out on his skateboard or playing basketball with his friends. Not to mention my 10 yo who is now out playing in the snow on her own.

Let’s not pretend that the children and young people aren’t paying a massive price in all this. I have to watch myself because it makes me so angry.

Wow, there must be some very optimistic people around! I'm over 50 (over 60 in fact) and don't plan on booking another holiday anytime soon.