To think my friend is disgusting for reporting this woman?

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A woman at my friends stable moved her two horses today to a new yard. According to my friend, You are not allowed to move horses to a new yard unless it's to do with the welfare of the horse.
My friend reported this woman to the police and then all proudly told me what she had done!
I wouldn't dream of reporting anyone, unless there's a massive party going on. I told my friend that it's a bit extreme to report someone for just moving her horses!

As well as animal welfare issues, surely moving them to a stable closer to her home, thus cutting her journey time, is sensible?

So even according to your friend “ You are not allowed to move horses to a new yard unless it's to do with the welfare of the horse”

And then when asked why the horse was moved the response which I presume you’ve got from your friend is “concerns over the treatment of the horse” - so a welfare issue so perfectly acceptable even according to your friend. So she’s reported some one for something she has said is perfectly acceptable!

Also I would say when were being told to stay local moving a horse closer to home so you can say even more local is also a valid reason

Out of interest, can anyone point me in the direction of the legislation that covers moving horses?

I’m looking to move mine right now (in fact I’m viewing a yard today). If I have to justify it, I’ll say moving closer to home to reduce journey times, and welfare on the basis of better turnout and access to a school enabling me to exercise my horse more.

No way would I turn down a place on the right yard (good yards are like panning for gold dust and hens teeth by the light of a blue moon)!

In fact, I’ve looked through the government legislation and the BHS guidance here: www.bhs.org.uk/advice-and-information/coronavirus-covid-19/england/yards-and-owners-lockdown-2 and I can’t see any mention of a restriction on moving yards. At a push, you’d have to justify that travelling a horse was for an essential purpose which it would be fairly clear it was.

So your friend is an arse, OP. I hope the police laughed in her face.

@Sinful8

*Police Scotland stormed into a family home yesterday - on suspicion they had guests around... In fact their seriously ill daughter had just been discharged from hospital.

twitter.com/BigBrotherWatch/status/1347264640552759296*

They seem to have forced that confrontation, the officer was calm and just trying to investigate till the man tried to physically shove him out and the whole family pilied in

Did you watch the same thing i did? The man pushed his wife who was being mardy backwards away from the officer who was being aggressive they also rugby tackled the person filming and refused to tell one of the people if she was even breathing or not she is epileptic is she breathing is she alive please tell me is she alive police response SHUT UP STAY BACK fml how helpful escalated it even more unessesarily

What people like this (the person who made the report) always seem to overlook is that the guidance is generally not law and the list of reasonable excuses is not exhaustive.

They seem to be able to hold the 4 main reasons (food shopping, essentials only mind, no wine or chocolate allowed, medicines, caring duties and exercise, and only one hour a day of course) in their otherwise empty heads and completely ignore that there are about a dozen reasons in total in the guidance alone and that these are only examples of reasonable excuses, not the only ones.

In any case, animal welfare reasons is given as a reasonable excuse, which can cover all manner of reasons such as vets, tending horses, walking dogs and would also cover moving to a more appropriate stables, and as the horse owner has concerns about treatment at her existing yard and is closer to her home, it's completely fine, whatever the mad busy body thinks.

I really don't see the harm in moving horses. Presumably that can be done in a safe, socially distanced way. Plus, if she had issues with the stable then it is an animal welfare issue.

She sounds hideous..I hope it makes her happy! What a low life thing to do...

@Sinful8

Hmm so apprently this is mumsnets line in the sand on covid restrictions, horses.

you have it!

@EmbarrassingAdmissions
That video is chilling. I am sitting here shaking after watching it. Those police are just thugs. I am ashamed to be Scottish.

I would be viewing this friend in a different light from now on. Situations like Covid bring out the true nature of people. I would also never trust her again and watch my back.

It was probably a malicious report because the woman didn't like her treatment of the horses being criticised and the horses moved as a result. Waste of police time. They will be fine with an animal welfare reason

Cove has brought out the best in some people but has brought out the absolute worst in others

You usually have to give a months notice to livery yards so probably she would have given notice early December and have no right to keep her horses there now. No field or stable is about as "for welfare" as you can get.

A saw a lady yesterday not wearing a hat IN THE STREET. I shall be reporting her to the police.
I know it is not currently an offence (although clearly it should be), so I will have to make something up. Moving horses is a good one, I think I shall use that.

It's fine, I moved a horse in May after having a chat with the police. Moving to a different yard because of problems is of course a welfare issue. Transporters wouldn't be working and risking fines if horses can't be moved at the moment. I'd have trouble remaining friends with this woman, apart from anything else for wasting police time.

Good grief, she clearly has got nothing better to do

Your friend is a pathetic waste of time and I would drop her. Some low life once reported my impeccibly looked after horses to the RSPCA. The welfare officer was lovely, he knew my horses as he often went by the village and saw them and knew what great conditon they are in. He told me the vast vast majority of reports they receive are entirely mailicious and it uses up huge amounts of their time, because he had to contact me and fill in a report even though he knew my horses and knew they were in lovely condition.

So think on - every malicious report ties up that agencies time and stops them being able to do their essential work. Your 'friend' is a malicious time waster.

Yep, with you OP and with the PP who said about the public making things easy for the Stasi. I'm a big rule-follower (policeman's daughter!) but it really worries me how quickly curtain-twitchers and petty individuals are so quick to report, especially when they're not breaking the rules around animal welfare.
If she's horsey she must understand about a) notice on yards and b) that good yards are so rare!

If you aren't allowed to move a horse, how come the country park I live adjacent to, was full of horse transporters and people riding horses yesterday?

EmbarrassingAdmissions

That video demonstrates the disgusting petty and vindictive behaviour a lot of the U.K. public have. You only have to see it across the the MN boards people revealing in snitching on each other.

As for the police - well I’m not surprised. They have the backing of the vindictive snitchers. Cunts all of them.

I hope that poor girl and family were ok.

@Serin You’re allowed to ride a horse out in parks/woodland/on bridleways.

I don’t think the police handled that well it shouldn’t have escalated that way but it’s an exaggeration to say they stormed the house. The mum was more than a bit mardy, she was swearing and shouting to the point her husband felt the need to hold her back.

She knew her kids were distressed she should have held herself together for their sakes but chose to scream, shout and swear and get up in the police’s face.

The policeman was a dick in his attitude to be sure but fault on both sides I would say

@Imiss2019

I don’t think the police handled that well it shouldn’t have escalated that way but it’s an exaggeration to say they stormed the house. The mum was more than a bit mardy, she was swearing and shouting to the point her husband felt the need to hold her back.

She knew her kids were distressed she should have held herself together for their sakes but chose to scream, shout and swear and get up in the police’s face.

The policeman was a dick in his attitude to be sure but fault on both sides I would say

That was on defence to the video by the way. I have no opinion on horses

Covid is bringing out the worst!