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Capitol Hill and the next 2 weeks (Trump #118)

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Roussette · 07/01/2021 10:52

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4128051-Coup-on-Capitol-Hill-Trump-117

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AcrossthePond55 · 08/01/2021 21:03

So, sounds as if articles of impeachment on Monday is now definite. I got a 'flash' on my phone about 20 minutes ago that moved it from 'possibly as soon as' to 'will be'.

ladymalfoy45 · 08/01/2021 21:06

Biden reminds me of my Grandad.
After a bad dream he wouldn’t say ‘it’s just a dream’ he’d say ‘ It’s alright. I’m here. ‘.

ListeningQuietly · 08/01/2021 21:16

What does Impeachment do
other than make lawyers rich
Run down the clock to the 20th
and job done

BoreOfWhabylon · 08/01/2021 21:18

@ladymalfoy45

Biden reminds me of my Grandad. After a bad dream he wouldn’t say ‘it’s just a dream’ he’d say ‘ It’s alright. I’m here. ‘.
Cometh the hour Cometh the man

He's no "Sleepy Joe"

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 08/01/2021 21:27

I was watching an interview with a Yale law professor who said it is possible that Trump could try to pardon himself but even if that worked it’s only a federal pardon. It wouldn’t impact the potential criminal cases in NY.
Trump may yet be jailed for tax evasion ... it’s how they got Al Capone in the end

BruceAndNosh · 08/01/2021 21:40

I have to say, Biden speaks jolly well for a bloke with dementia who spent the last 15 years in his basement with Hugo Chavez

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 08/01/2021 21:50

I think myself that Trump's taunts about the basement started after he had been hustled down to the bunker in the White house.

user1471565182 · 08/01/2021 21:53

Still various commentators on the Jewish Chronicle furiously denying theres an element of anti semitism among these scumbags. Its disgusting how far right Pollock has taken that newspaper.

user1471565182 · 08/01/2021 21:58

I should say among the comments on facebook and the online edition mainly

Tellmetruth4 · 08/01/2021 22:08

Still various commentators on the Jewish ‘Chronicle furiously denying theres an element of anti semitism among these scumbags. Its disgusting how far right Pollock has taken that newspaper.’

I genuinely don’t understand this mindset - I saw pictures of people with swastikas at Wednesdays riot. Their anti-semitism should not be minimised or covered up. They are extremely dangerous, are the real deal when it comes to Neo-Nazism and would be lethal to the Jewish people if they ever got near power. Maybe the people commenting aren’t actually Jewish, there are many people focused on trying to sow confusion on the net. Nobody would defend people who are a threat to themselves and their families.

Roussette · 08/01/2021 22:10

www.thedailybeast.com/after-capitol-riot-trump-officials-rush-to-keep-him-from-sparking-another-conflictat-home-or-abroad

In Fiona Hill's words...

“The president was trying to stage a coup... Just because it failed or didn’t succeed doesn’t mean it wasn’t real.”

On Thursday afternoon, Joe Grogan, who was the top White House domestic policy adviser to Trump until May of last year, went as far as to tell The Daily Beast that “yesterday was the worst day for the Republican Party since Lincoln’s assassination.”

The former senior aide continued, “It was a disgrace and a tragedy…[Trump] had plenty of opportunities to off-ramp before this—and should have conceded before it came to this.” Grogan also didn’t exude confidence about certain former colleagues who are still advising the president during this crisis, bluntly describing some current aides surrounding Trump as “psycho[s].”

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FantasticButtocks · 08/01/2021 22:14

Apologies if this has already been posted but I'm watching Biden speak and he's on fire! So articulate and so so damning of Trump, and also speaks like a president should. I can't remember how to make it link on my phone but hopefully it's this:
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NotaRealLawyer · 08/01/2021 22:14

Jewish Chronicle headline yesterday was pretty clear on the anti-semitic element.
www.thejc.com/news/world/horror-as-neo-nazis-and-antisemites-storm-the-us-capitol-1.510491

Jewish News also front page on the Holocaust references and the harassment of Israeli reporter.
jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/holocaust-references-on-garments-of-trump-supporters-who-stormed-us-capitol/

FinallyHere · 08/01/2021 22:21

@ZZTopGuitarSolo

Ohh, what a great opportunity for DD

Thanks, yes, I loved that NYT article on HCR Finally signed up to a subscription, too.

BlueCatRedCat · 08/01/2021 22:29

@ListeningQuietly

What does Impeachment do other than make lawyers rich Run down the clock to the 20th and job done
A successful impeachment would prevent Trump from running for the Presidential office again in 2024.

Impeachment sends a message that inciting sedition isn't something that will simply go unpunished.

The snivelling GOP cowards in the Senate will not vote in favour of impeachment though (2/3 of the Senate need to vote in favour). Even after all this, they are still - save for a couple of notable exceptions - kowtowing to the Trump cultists.

CaveMum · 08/01/2021 22:30

Twitter are having a crackdown, finally!

“Twitter on Friday permanently suspended accounts for former national security adviser Michael Flynn, pro-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell and former 8kun administrator Ron Watkins as part of a crackdown on content linked to the QAnon conspiracy theory.

A spokesperson for the platform told The Hill that each of the individuals was banned in line with Twitter’s policy against harmful coordinated activity.”

More here: thehill.com/policy/technology/533424-twitter-permanently-suspends-michael-flynn-sidney-powell-and-others

ResIpsaLoquiturInterAlia · 08/01/2021 22:44
user1471565182 · 08/01/2021 22:46

Tellmethetruth4 Loads of the wrtiers and readers commenting have been willing to turn a blind eye to the blatant serious anti semitism in right wing circles if it means they get an ally to the Israel's government's more oppressive politics. No matter that its been consistently the Right which have made Jews lives a misery for hundreds of years and slaughtered millions upon millions.

The thing is polls show jewish people in the US support Biden and the Democrats by about 2/3rds+ so it really is the Jewish Chronicle's editorial decisions and pandering that have made it go down this scummy alleyway. Im not saying its 'delusional jews' or anything mad like that and im not a fan of Corbyn, im saying that particular publication needs to sort its fucking act out and get some dignity.

user1471565182 · 08/01/2021 22:49

Yes im talking about long time commentator's reaction to that headline especially, NotaRealLawyer.

AcrossthePond55 · 08/01/2021 23:02

Draft article of impeachment

www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/politics/trump-article-of-impeachment-draft/index.html

AcrossthePond55 · 08/01/2021 23:07

A successful impeachment would prevent Trump from running for the Presidential office again in 2024.

Just to clarify, impeachment is the sole jurisdiction of the House of Representatives and does not remove the POTUS from office. That is done in the Senate, by trial, after the HoR has impeached the POTUS.

House impeaches, Senate convicts and removes.

AcrossthePond55 · 08/01/2021 23:10

Hit enter too soon.

House impeache and refers to the Senate for trial.
Senate convicts and removes.

If the Senate convicts and removes, it then holds a separate vote to decide on a lifetime ban from federal office.

minou123 · 08/01/2021 23:14

AcrossthePond55

Sorry to bother you with questions, but can I clarify the whole voting thing for each stage of impeachment?

Am I right that the House is a majority vote, but in the Senate the vote needs to be 2/3rds?

BruceAndNosh · 08/01/2021 23:29

Bugger me sideways

Twitter have just permabanned Trump.

His head will explode