Coup on Capitol Hill (Trump#117)

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The ongoing Trump saga.

Continuing from www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4110252-May-Hope-and-History-Rhyme-Trump-116

Biden excellent here. I think at least partially off the cuff too - he has notes but i get the feeling it wasn't a fully prepared speech
Not pulling his punches

[quote mathanxiety]@tobee

This is not what happens in the USA. Surely?

Apart from the evidence in front of everyone's eyes, this was incited by Donald Trump over at least the last six years.[/quote]

Yes, I understand but this is what you would expect from countries with a history of instability. Not such a huge democracy with supposed checks and balances. It's really important that he is not allowed to get away with all this.

What’s taking armed troops so long?

As RTB and math anxiety said on the last, it's a tough call between improving and escalating the situation. You need something very focused.

@WTF0ver

Just insane. Feels like I'm watching a movie.

DH says one person he is talking to on line has joked that the season finale of 'The USA' is a bit far fatched.

This is so appalling and the possible consequences, terrifying.

I hope they manage to contain it to this location only.

And with the choppers on the way i would be crapping myself not milling about... Those guys will mean business

This is just unbelievable.

CT in America is notoriously shit. SFs are not being sent in, let alone on bloody Chinooks...

IEDs being located and detonated safely by NG. NG will be under Trump command given Capitol is federal property hence the DoD hesitation over sending. It’s basically giving him more men. One woman shot and had to be revived. I’ve also seen images of a second woman shot in the throat but looks like maybe by a rubber bullet at short range by the images - lots of blood, pressure applied.

What’s taking armed troops so long ?

This cannot be militarised (in the sense of the US Armed Forces) for many reasons, mainly because that turns this into a civil war.

It is being treated as a (heavy handed) policing matter, with federal policing (FBI, Capitol Police) and local police (DC police) plus National Guard (DC, VA and MD National Guard forces) trying to restore order, hopefully making many arrests and then having the book thrown at all of those arrested.

CNN has used the word Terrorists.

Trump to will have a taped message coming shortly say Sky

They have to do it within 5 days of starting the process

It doesn't have to be done on the Hill - they could meet elsewhere and do it

No, they have 5 days to debate , with recesses. After 5 days,, no more recesses until they are done

twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1346928237017001984
Video of FBI swot team in capitol building...

Rudi Guiliani this morning calling for 'trial by combat' at this mornings rally.

Trump saying 'we will never concede'

This is down to Trump and his enablers. He needs to be removed. He cannot carry on until 20th as POTUS

Jon Ossoff has been declared winner.

BBC Washington corespondent locked down in the Capitol cafeteria.

As they’ve just been discussing, it seems insane that the protestors were able to get in so easily. Is there no security?! I can’t imagine anyone being able to walk into the Houses of Parliament with such ease.

Maggie Haberman NYT

New - an explosive device was found at the RNC and detonated safely.

@tobee

Trump to will have a taped message coming shortly say Sky

What's the betting he announces he's staying for another 4 years?

@BoreOfWhabylon

Jon Ossoff has been declared winner.

Good. Fwiw

Joe Biden
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'I call on President Trump to go on national television now to fulfill his oath and defend the Constitution by demanding an end to this siege.'

Agree, shocked but not surprised.

We've been saying here for a while that he's a family-destroyer writ large.

And just as the Mercers and Bannons and others who helped put the Trump turtle on his post can't control him, so Trump can't control the mob once he's set it going.

Watching on CCN, this is just insane, unbelievable

God normally I'd think you were just joking but ..

Joe Biden was fantastic. Of course Trump taped a message. Hes hiding in his bunker.

Finally.
Go home, by Trump

Fucking hell, he’s still banging his drum