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AIBU that she should have explained the gifts?

116 replies

Bu2244 · 06/01/2021 01:29

NC for this as I'm an avid poster on MN and not sure if I'll get roasted for this post.
I had some new neighbours move in next door August 2019. A husband and wife, both in their late 50s.
Last christmas eve (2019) the DW knocked on my door and handed me a christmas card, a bottle of pink gin, a tub of celebrations and 2 selection boxes for the DC. I said thank you and apologised for not getting them anything in return but was told they wanted nothing in return and told me to enjoy the gin and chocolates and wished me a merry Christmas (I did send them a thank you note just like I did with everyone else who gave us gifts which they greatly appreciated).
Christmas just been I came home to find a gift bag left in my porch from the lovely neighbours which contained, red wine, hot Chocolte stirrers, selection boxes for my 2 DC and a box of chocolates from Hotel Chocolat which were delicious by the way!
The neighbours have been very kind with me and the DC during the lockdowns last year, they gave us outdoor toys that belong to their grandchildren (they couldn't use as they couldn't visit) and always offered to pick essentials up from the shop for us, gave DC Easter eggs and sweets for DC on birthdays when they spotted banners and balloons on our front door. So, when I did my christmas shopping I purchased a M&S wine and chocolates hamper for them. A couple of days after I received their gift I took the hamper round and the DH answered the door. He was very grateful and told me how thoughtful I was, and how I made them feel welcomed and how lovely my DC were, he ended the speech by telling me to keep the hamper for myself to enjoy and to not waste my money on them. I insisted he should take the hamper to enjoy with his DW as thanks for being brilliant and thoughtful neighbours all year.
He became a little uncomfortable and explained neither he or his DW drink alcohol and as a type 1 diabetics he doesn't eat chocolate and his DW is vegan and also lactose intolerant so she can only eat certain chocolates. I apologised and said I had no idea and just assumed they ate chocolates and drunk alcohol because of the gifts I had received. He apologised profusely for the misunderstanding and explained the chocolates and alcohol I'd received the last 2 christmases were gifts given to the DW by children/parents and colleagues at the school she works at and because they couldn't consume them she handed them out to friends and neighbours to enjoy which is a lovely thing for her to do but I wish I had known so I could have purchased something appropriate for them. I ended up taking the hamper home.
I haven't really seen them all christmas apart from once or twice but a couple of nights ago the DW knocked on my door and said she wanted to apologise for rejecting my gift and that she had been too embarrassed to come round before now and if she had known I was going to buy them something then she would have explained.
AIBU to think she should have given some sort of explanation? I would have still viewed them as christmas gifts as they're still gifts and I wouldn't have been any less grateful especially that she thought of me and the DC when distributing them but it would have saved some embarrassment for both me and the neighbours?

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Labobo · 06/01/2021 16:30

They sound like lovely neighbours. Just get them a flowering plant next year. Or some tins of fancy tea or coffee.

Uhhuhoyaye · 06/01/2021 16:35

Hope your neighbour gets roundly bollocked by his DW, who I expect will be very cross her sham gift giving has been exposed.

He was very rude not to accept your presents which were far more generous than theirs.

No need to give them anything next year.

Hahaha88 · 06/01/2021 16:51

@aliloandabanana

I think it's really odd and they should have said something - they've made themselves look very generous by giving what appeared to be expensive gifts (and never explained when they were thanked by the OP), but in fact they were just passing on things they didn't want!

Something similar happened to me once - someone passed on theatre tickets because they were expecting to be called to the bedside of a critically ill relative and would rather someone else enjoy the show. They made quite a thing about why they'd chosen me rather than anyone else - then when they gave me the tickets they said "think of this as your birthday present for this year" - it was at least two months before my birthday and they would normally have given me a present. I just think it's odd to pass on things you don't want but expect others to see them as generous gifts.

Are you joking? They still spent money on those tickets, money they could have got back must likely by requesting a refund or selling them on. Why should they just give them to you and still buy you a birthday gift?
Hahaha88 · 06/01/2021 16:53

@Bu2244 a gift is a gift whether they've specifically purchased it or are regiftng. They don't need to tell you it's a regift

00100001 · 06/01/2021 18:09

@aliloandabanana

I think it's really odd and they should have said something - they've made themselves look very generous by giving what appeared to be expensive gifts (and never explained when they were thanked by the OP), but in fact they were just passing on things they didn't want!

Something similar happened to me once - someone passed on theatre tickets because they were expecting to be called to the bedside of a critically ill relative and would rather someone else enjoy the show. They made quite a thing about why they'd chosen me rather than anyone else - then when they gave me the tickets they said "think of this as your birthday present for this year" - it was at least two months before my birthday and they would normally have given me a present. I just think it's odd to pass on things you don't want but expect others to see them as generous gifts.

You sound ungrateful
humptyrumpty · 06/01/2021 18:33

@aliloandabanana

I think it's really odd and they should have said something - they've made themselves look very generous by giving what appeared to be expensive gifts (and never explained when they were thanked by the OP), but in fact they were just passing on things they didn't want!

Something similar happened to me once - someone passed on theatre tickets because they were expecting to be called to the bedside of a critically ill relative and would rather someone else enjoy the show. They made quite a thing about why they'd chosen me rather than anyone else - then when they gave me the tickets they said "think of this as your birthday present for this year" - it was at least two months before my birthday and they would normally have given me a present. I just think it's odd to pass on things you don't want but expect others to see them as generous gifts.

You expected a separate birthday gift AND the theatre tickets which they could have sold on? Hmm fuck me you’re ungrateful
humptyrumpty · 06/01/2021 18:34

@Uhhuhoyaye

Hope your neighbour gets roundly bollocked by his DW, who I expect will be very cross her sham gift giving has been exposed.

He was very rude not to accept your presents which were far more generous than theirs.

No need to give them anything next year.

You sound like a shit neighbour
I8toys · 06/01/2021 18:41

They sound great. Issue over nothing really and I love direct people - it won't happen again now will it.

Emeraldshamrock · 06/01/2021 18:43

There was no explanation needed. Next time buy a bunch of flowers or a plant if they like gardening.
She probably would have accepted gracefully and passed them with the others.
Men don't always think of accepting with a smile.

Norwayreally · 06/01/2021 18:54

I think it would have been rather rude and also weird if they’d turned up saying ‘we received these gifts but I’m a vegan, he’s diabetic and neither of us drink so you can have them’.

Cocomarine · 06/01/2021 18:59

I cannot believe you think you should get an explanation!
Fair enough if you just wanted to post “ooops, wish they’d said” - but thinking they should explain?!

WhySoSensitive · 06/01/2021 19:02

I don’t understand the issue? Do you expect everyone who gives you gifts to explain them or explain why?!
They said they didn’t want anything in return.

SquirrelFan · 06/01/2021 19:30

This is so odd - there are clearly two schools of thought here.

In my book, if someone gives you a present they are elevating your relationship to present-giving status. So the neighbor (imo) should have made clear that this was a gift they'd received but weren't able to use and they thought of you and do you drink gin? You would still have been delighted with the gifts, without the added burden of feeling the need to reciprocate.

Misandrylovescompany · 06/01/2021 19:47

God, I would have hated this. The sense of obligation to reciprocate which it creates! I would have spent the last couple of years agonising over how to say ‘please stop giving us things’. If I had decided to give in and reciprocate only to have it thrown back in my face, I’d be so cross.

Don’t try and give them anything more OP and only accept presents from them in future if you are comfortable with the lack of reciprocity.

I suspect she is one of those people who think they’re making others happy when actually what they’re doing is creating a sense of obligation.

Mikki77 · 07/01/2021 19:29

You have nice neighbours - you are lucky. Feel blessed and move on. Happy new yearSmile

Vinomummyinlockdown · 07/01/2021 19:37

Better them my neighbours who never want paying back but then you get them wine and flowers for anything - which we KNOW they like - and they hold it all against you later saying they’ve always helped you (ie cat sitting) and you never paid it back ..... even thing you did! So I’d trade for your neighbours any day!!!!!

Ddot · 07/01/2021 19:40

Wow I'm jealous. Go buy some flowers for them

Aglet · 07/01/2021 19:41

Don't think about it anymore. You've all explained yourselves, so just let it go so you can continue to enjoy your friendship.

MollyMinniesMum · 07/01/2021 19:43

Yabvu

Sparkletastic · 07/01/2021 19:45

They sound lovely. Buy them a plant.

mimosaadorna · 07/01/2021 19:58

I’m totally on with the fact that neighbour should have knocked, and explained the details behind the gift. I’m vegan, and severely lactose /wheat/gluten allergic, and it’s often a bit embarrassing to explain this to people. I tend to give away gifts I can’t eat, and explain what’s behind them, because it’s just easier. I don’t really want people wasting their money on me with things I can’t eat, so it’s easiest if I tell them, wherever possible. However OP, Hotel chocolat do nice free from chocs as do Holland and Barrat, and Booja Booja, if you ever want to get them anything in future !!

Leontine · 07/01/2021 19:59

This isn’t embarrassing. Confused

DaphneduWarrior · 07/01/2021 20:02

I don't drink alcohol, but I still buy people wine as presents (if I know they drink). If someone gave me alcohol as a present, I'd just keep it for guests. It really isn't a big deal.

Cerealnamechangerstrikesagain · 07/01/2021 20:06

I see this differently - I’d say that they are comfortable sharing their dietary / tee-total restrictions with you and that’s a good thing.

I’m diabetic and only drink white wine. I also work in childcare. I get lots of gifts I can’t eat/drink myself but I accept them graciously and my ds/dh usually hoover them up for me! I will tell close friends what I can/can’t eat/drink, I might mention it to colleagues in a relevant conversation but I wouldn’t expect to tell the parents of the kids I look after. I’d take it as a compliment that they have told you the truth, not that being diabetic / vegan / tee-total is a shameful secret, but sometimes it feels a bit too personal to share the minute you meet someone. Yes ok I know the stereotype of vegans Wink but the diabetic/tee-total bit still stands...

Needclarity · 07/01/2021 20:11

You and the neighbours sound lovely. I’d get them a poinsettia or a bunch of flowers next year Flowers