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Lockdowner35 · 03/01/2021 15:58

As the last thread reached 1000 posts

I will start

Jo Swinson would have do a better job than Boris on Coronavirus

OP posts:
CostaDelCovid · 11/01/2021 11:08

@MaddieElla

Being a SAHM is not a full time job. It is a life of reilly. Expecting your working partner to get up in the night with kids is taking the piss.

Obesity is a choice. Not all of you have a medical condition. Hmm

Grammar school is superior to comprehensive (in this area).

Being anxious isn't a reason not to get a job.

Obesity is never a 'choice' Hmm
CounsellorTroi · 11/01/2021 11:09

Wall mounted TVs look naff. Especially mounted on chimney breasts/over fireplaces.

CostaDelCovid · 11/01/2021 11:12

@Icenii

wondering I mean it. I love a man in a black fleece Grin
Me too!!
CostaDelCovid · 11/01/2021 11:18

@Beancounter1

If you find yourself in the position of being a single parent of young children, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being a SAHP and claiming benefits. Fine if you want to work and can afford childcare, equally fine if you want to stay at home. You can get a job when your youngest is about 14 (or whenever they stop the benefits - is it age 16?) Children are a net gain to society and society ought to pay single parents. But you have to accept that your pension and retirement years will be a bit poor.
Ha! They make you look for work once the child turns 3 now! You no longer are allowed to 'choose' to sit on benefits. Even if they claim Jobseekers, they're made to log in to the job searching page for X many hours per day every day and go on week long courses.

I'm amazed you didn't know this.

Obviously different for those who are unwell like myself

CostaDelCovid · 11/01/2021 11:25

@m0use

Intentionally having children when living in poverty (relative poverty or otherwise) is abuse.

Having children is not a right - prospective parents should evaluate whether they are mentally, physically and financially capable of caring for children prior to conception.

90% of problems raised on MN could be solved by communicating effectively.

Sometimes, no matter how many precautions you take, pregnancy occurs anyway. My child was conceived after being on the injection AND using Durex. Sorry if TMI but it needed to be said. We don't live in poverty but I am disabled and receive disability payments on top of my income and therefore, according to some posters on here, any payment from the DWP automatically makes you poverty stricken!

My daughter wants for absolutely nothing and has some lovely things. In many cases, some nicer things than her peers. Not that, that was the intention but to highlight that although we're not wealthy - there's certainly no poverty.

CostaDelCovid · 11/01/2021 11:31

@Monday55 How fucking dare you? I'm overweight due to having survived cancer and being prescribed steroids. My thyroid no longer works so I will be overweight the rest of my life. You nasty human being....

WiseOwlRelaxing · 11/01/2021 11:41

and .... wrt accidental pregnancies, condoms aside, when you think that 97% of bystanders will not intervene to draw the excluded person back in to the fold, or take a stand and put a stop to bullying, so important to the amygdala is it to belong to the group, so hardwired is this need to belong to the group, despite the fact that there may be two supermarkets within a 2k radius and you can flick the central heating on with a switch, despite that, sheople will obey their hardwiring to just do nothing, not take a stand in order to belong to the group. And knowing that that is how we (97%) of us operate, we berate women for getting pregnant in any circumstances that aren't absolutely OPTIMUM. I just think it's ridiculous.

Smallgoon · 11/01/2021 11:42

Trans women are women.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 11/01/2021 11:45

Obesity is never a 'choice' hmm

It becomes a choice when people choose to do nothing about it. Not everyone, has medical issues so serious they can't lose weight.

Saying that obesity is never a choice is not helpful because it just helps people who are in denial and look for excuses (like I did) to say to themselves "oh well, nothing i can do. I must have x and y wrong".

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/01/2021 12:37

It is in fact the gendered (learned) attributes of masculinity that cause the violence associated with patriarchy, not the penis itself, or the physical form

Where do you think that stems from, if sexed bodies aren't relevant?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/01/2021 12:38

More and more evidence suggests that sex is a spectrum

No it doesn't. You have just misunderstood it.

mumnowformerrockstar · 11/01/2021 12:50

I did not breastfeed my dc. I don't deliver that it's any better than formula feeding. No regrets at all.
I don't care what other people think either.

Orlania · 11/01/2021 15:04

No it doesn't. You have just misunderstood it.

Yes absolutely this. There is a massive logic failure with some people around this. I can't be bothered to engage with people who have such limited understanding anymore tbh.

FreshFancyFrogglette · 11/01/2021 17:48

Erk and orlania. I have not misunderstood it at all. Your understanding is rooted in an outdated belief system. Recent studies show a spectrum of male to female attributes, rather than an either/or.

It stems from lanugaue, culture and social conditioning. The penis itself doesn't dictate a patrichal attitude, any more than a stomach does.

FreshFancyFrogglette · 11/01/2021 17:48

*sorry meant to say misogynistic attitude

DoubleTweenQueen · 11/01/2021 18:03

I love hearing people talk/boast about their lives/children. I think it's great if they are able to acknowledge and enjoy things going well. Life has ups and downs. No-one's life is without pain, sadness or disappointment at some point. Make the most of the good times, and acknowledge others' good times

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/01/2021 18:09

Recent studies show a spectrum of male to female attributes, rather than an either/or.

No, they really don't Grin they show that, as has been known for a long time, sometimes things go wrong with sex development after conception, or in the genetic makeup of the embryo, which means that it develops abnormally. The sexual development pathway it should follow is defined at conception by the X or Y chromosomes your biological father contributed to your mother's egg. But sometimes things go awry and the embryo develops towards the opposite sex pathway.

It has zero to do with trans identity issues, and everyone is either male or female despite these variations, and there are only two gametes humans can produce, and both are needed for reproduction. Only biological male people can impregnate and only female people can produce ova. Your ideas are pure ideology, not fact. Hope that's helpful to you.

In humans, females inherit an X chromosome from each parent, whereas males always inherit their X chromosome from their mother and their Y chromosome from their father. Consequently, all of the somatic cells in human females contain two X chromosomes, and all of the somatic cells in human males contain one X and one Y chromosome (Figure 3). The same is true of all other placental mammals — males produce X and Y gametes, and females produce only X gametes (Figure 4). In this system, referred to as the XX-XY system, maleness is determined by sperm cells that carry the Y chromosome.

www.nature.com/scitable/topicpage/the-sex-of-offspring-is-determined-by-6524953/

Orlania · 11/01/2021 18:18

FreshFancyFrogglette stop directing your questions to me. Your view of the world is misguided at best and clearly you don't have the ability to change that. That's your problem. Don't drag me into your stupidity.

Alittlepotofrosie · 11/01/2021 18:18

There's no point having a child if you're going to put it in full time childcare when it's still a baby so you can pursue a career. If you're going to hand your child over to nursery to raise it, what's the point in having one?

Alittlepotofrosie · 11/01/2021 18:20

Also - breastfeeding isnt very important at all. It's certainly nowhere near as important as the mother's mental health.

Orlania · 11/01/2021 18:20

Well done for having the patience to be drawn into this Erish. You clearly have more patience than me. I gave up debating with people like this quite some time ago.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 11/01/2021 18:32

I've given up on another thread today. It's more for any lurkers who have vaguely heard "sex is a spectrum" being touted and don't know what it means or think it has more credibility than it does.

Orlania · 11/01/2021 18:35

I know. You're right. I'm just so tired of it all. But it is useful for the lurkers of which no doubt there are many.

Blibbyblobby · 11/01/2021 18:37

It stems from lanugaue, culture and social conditioning. The penis itself doesn't dictate a patrichal attitude, any more than a stomach does.

Disclaimer: in the following I will distinguish between penis and vulva because I’m commenting on the relationship between these typically sexed organs and cultural constructions like patriarchy. I’m not taking them to be the definition of male,man,woman or female, and I’m not saying they aren’t that either. My point is entirely tangential to how one defines male/man/female/woman: it’s that saying something is purely cultural is not an argument to say it is irrelevant or has no material impact.

And when all the penis-havers (and vulva havers ) have grown up in a language, culture and society that is free from patriarchal conditioning, where there are no statistically measurable differences between the penis-people’s violence, opportunities and financial outcomes and the vulva-people’s, when no one looks at a penis-person and a vulva-person and thinks, “oooh, we’d better employ the penis-person because the vulva person will probably want maternity leave”, when no one says to the little vulva-person “oh you’re such a good person, helping your sibling” and to the little penis-person “oh, you’re such a clever person building your models”, when the penis-person is just as likely to be a full time parent and suffer career loss as the vulva-person, THEN it will be safe to say all women, trans or not, can be treated identically (apart from sport, and medicine, and some sort of provision for career impact of breast feeding, and other purely biological differences).

But until that happens, people with a penis have a hugely different experience of womanhood than people with vulvas, and it does huge to disservice to those of us with vulvas to have the opportunities, rights and protections that were created to protect women (vulva havers) in a patriarchal society opened up to penis-havers who may indeed be Women by a deeper definition but have had a totally unrelated experience to the one that Women’s rights were designed for.

Because Women’s rights are not a matter of identity, or abstract definition, or validation. They are a practical response to the practical impact of having a child-bearing physiology (or appearing to have one at birth) and being defined as and raised as a woman within patriarchy. Transwomen don’t need them, and they do those of us that do a grave disservice by demanding them.

Alittlepotofrosie · 11/01/2021 19:16

My unpopular opinion is that it's really, really fucking tedious how every thread has to descend into the trans debate. If you've seen one, you've seen them all.

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