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[Lockdowner35]

As the last thread reached 1000 posts

I will start

Jo Swinson would have do a better job than Boris on Coronavirus

@FestiveFruitloop

It might not affect bonding per se, but surely a new mother is entitled to want a little time to hold her baby quietly herself before the world descends and starts playing pass the baby parcel?

Exactly this. ^

A mother of a newborn baby is quite entitled to not want to pass her newborn around a bunch of people who think they're entitled to paw and maul someone's fragile and vulnerable newborn.

What is this obsession with having to coddle someone's newborn anyway?

You want to hold and coddle and maul a newborn? Get your own!

@JamesMiddletonsMarshmallows agree with you on the wine but is ‘hot chocolate o’clockolate’ OK? I’ve been using it a lot during the cold weather but can’t decide

[quote littlepattilou]@FestiveFruitloop

It might not affect bonding per se, but surely a new mother is entitled to want a little time to hold her baby quietly herself before the world descends and starts playing pass the baby parcel?

Exactly this. ^

A mother of a newborn baby is quite entitled to not want to pass her newborn around a bunch of people who think they're entitled to paw and maul someone's fragile and vulnerable newborn.

What is this obsession with having to coddle someone's newborn anyway?

You want to hold and coddle and maul a newborn? Get your own![/quote]
How many babies have you 'pawed' or 'mauled' in your lifetime?

Even if it's just one, that's extremely disturbing. Most people I know just hold them 🤷‍♀️

What is this obsession with having to coddle someone's newborn anyway?

I think it's the MIL from hell equivalent of my dog pissing on a lamp post to mark their territory.

Refusing to let anyone else cuddl your baby isnt "normal maternal instinct" it's a sign you should speak to your midwife/HV/GP about your mental health!

how rude

the total disrespect and lack of consideration for new mothers in depressing. The NHS already treat them very badly - I am not talking about a lone over-worked nurse running around trying to do the most she can during her shift

When it comes from other female, it's even worst. A woman does not stop being a person the minute she has a baby.

@Otellie

Only if you have reading comprehension challenges.

Yes. People seem to have a huge inability to read what's actually written on the page, they can only see what they think should be there. Hence calling jk a transphobe. Most of them haven't even read her new book yet they think they are an expert on the contents of it. Thick twats.

Yep, I agree about JK Rowling.

The ones calling her transphobic are not very bright though. They are the 'cancel culture' brigade. They call on people to be 'cancelled,' for the most innocuous reasons. They are the 'woke,' and are like sheep. They call on everyone to think like them, and call you a massive transphobe and a racist and any other shit like that if you don't agree with them.

They call anyone who voted for Brexit a thick, racist piece of gammon. They're the same ones who think no-one can dislike Meghan Markle unless they are a massive racist. Bizarre. I feel embarrassed for them. The more they post, the more dense they look.

@Iknowwhatudidlastsummer

Refusing to let anyone else cuddl your baby isnt "normal maternal instinct" it's a sign you should speak to your midwife/HV/GP about your mental health!

how rude

the total disrespect and lack of consideration for new mothers in depressing. The NHS already treat them very badly - I am not talking about a lone over-worked nurse running around trying to do the most she can during her shift

When it comes from other female, it's even worst. A woman does not stop being a person the minute she has a baby.

Wholeheartedly agree with this. As I said, no-one has a RIGHT to hold/handle your baby, and pass them from person to person. Your baby is not an object to be passed around like a fucking package.

Anyone who doesn't like it, and gets arsey because a mother of a newborn refuses to hand their baby over to them, needs to get a grip. As I said, get your own baby if you want to coddle and paw a newborn!

May I also suggest this...

www.rebornbaby.org.uk/

You can hold, and paw, and poke and prod to your heart's content here. They are VERY realistic. But do bog off making mothers of newborns feel like shit because they don't want you pawing their baby.

Again with the 'pawing'?

It sounds as though a lot of mothers are passing their newborns to their pet dogs 🤣🤣

Other than that, I agree with what you're saying.

There's just no need to ham it up with 'pawing' and 'mauling' etc. You make a good enough point without that silly sort of language.

On the flipside, the ones who are so totally fixated with hating anything they can demean as "woke" (which apparently means everything from thinking racism is bad to supporting the NHS) to the point of cutting their own nose off to spite their face, come across as small-minded and sometimes so obsessive as to sound genuinely mentally unwell.

I'm talking about people saying they'd happily vote for serial rapist, child sexual abuser and reproductive rights-denier Trump solely because Kamala Harris once used the sentence "personal pronouns", people announcing they'd cancelled plans to have a lovely enjoyable evening watching a nice firework display just because the display was going to briefly display an anti-racist message (really you hate black people so much that the mere thought of having to look at a simple little acronym for two seconds "triggers" you? Snowflake!) and the Meghan Markle nutters who are so fixated on a celeb they'll never meet who has no impact on their life they start eight thousand threads about how awful she is, spend huge amounts of time and energy monitoring everything she does (eg listening to her podcast) just for hate-fuel, create literally dozens of new email addresses so they can keep on registering new accounts after being banned, and do crazy shit like post "N*GGER" in all-caps, send abusive DMs, and stalk posters around the forum just because they can't accept that other people are allowed different opinions.

Utterly strange behaviour.

The more they post, the more dense they look.

Yes, I agree. It would be helpful if they all dyed their hair blue in the real world so we can spot them from a distance and not have to engage with them at all.

"Most people (in the western world,) want a daughter. Gender disappointment is always when it's a boy."

Gender-based infanticide and gender-based abandonment is pretty much an exclusively female thing.

Perhaps some parents in the West are slightly "disappointed" to have a son (though I'm sure plenty feel the opposite) but globally gender disappointment is only fatal to girls.

Because I'm a certain age and have no children, people often assume I am itching to cuddle their babies and push them on to me. I'm really not.

Pawing and mauling. So superfluous and says it all. 🙄

I’ve never mauled anyone else’s baby btw, though I’ve held a few. 😉

*A size 14-16 is NOT fat, and in most cases, is not overweight"

I just don't think this is true, sorry. I am a comfortable size 12 and I am overweight at a pretty average height of 5 ft 6.

Anyway my unpopular Mumsnet opinion is that extended breastfeeding your child until they're in primary school really isn't any amazing achievement or admirable in any way. It's weird.

Haven’t RTFT so dunno if I’m repeating anything (probably am).

Lockdowns don’t work.
Everyone has a loo brush, how else do you clean it?
Hey Dugee is a mother’s best friend when things need doing.
If you can avoid putting your children in childcare, you should.
Thornton’s chocolates are lovely and an excellent gift.
As is Baylis & Harding (bloody love their bath stuff)
Trans people are fine and dandy and (shock horror) people too who deserve the same treatment and rights as everyone else.

A size 14-16 is NOT fat, and in most cases, is not overweight

Well no it's not fat because it's a clothes size.

However, if the PP (not sure who it was) is seriously suggesting that no fat people wear a size 14 or 16, what planet are they living on?

At 5ft 3" I would most definitely be fat for those sizes to fit me. Other people (mostly taller) wouldn't necessarily be fat though.

Feminists and ethnic minorities get too much time on Radio 4.

I am 5.68 and size 16 is fat for me. It does put me into overweight.

Problem is that everyone has a different definition of "fat". For some it's overweight, for some it's obese or very close to

I'm sorry, but unless you are super tall and of stocky build, I don't see how you can possibly be a size 16 without being overweight.

I’m 5ft8 and at size 16 I would be fat.

@NotBehindTheRadiatorPlease

JK Rowling is a vile transphobe.

If you think this then you haven't read anything she wrote, which makes you a band wagon jumping simpleton.

@RunningFromInsanity

I’m 5ft8 and at size 16 I would be fat.

No you wouldn’t.

White people don't need to constantly apologise for their skin colour as though it's something to be ashamed of.

People who seek to educate others through their aggressive activism, whilst doing fuck all apart from aggressively virtue signal from the safety of their basement can fuck off.