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Bloody joggers

321 replies

Credenhill22 · 02/01/2021 21:02

I've had enough of them.
Today I was going to pick my daughter up and these idiots are all over the road.
The sun was very low today and it was very hard too see the road.
I swear I nearly knocked 2 idiots down who were running on the road.
I get people need to get out and keep fit but keep to the bloody pavements and if the pavement is too icy then bloody stay at home and stop putting road users at risk.
I mean can you imagine the hassle a driver would be put through if we ran over one of these selfish idiots...either stay on the pavements or stay indoors..

OP posts:
nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 06:44

@1Morewineplease

Sorry, but joggers shouldn't be on roads. Particularly narrow roads where they affect the flow of traffic. I'm now going to put my helmet on as joggers on here will no doubt tell me that I shouldn't be driving.
I'm a driver, and never jogged outside in my life, and even I think you can do one.

Anyone can use the bloody road particularly where there's no pavement. Cars are a bloody menace and the sooner we start to prioritise ANYthjng other than cars in public spaces the better.

nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 06:46

@Hailtomyteeth

Absolutely, OP. Lycra-clad cyclists are also bastards. And horses. FFS keep them off the pavements.
Do the world a favour, get out of your car and start engaging in some sustainable transport.
nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 06:51

@ichundich

Some people are just morons. I regularly see joggers on the road between mine and the next village, where the speed limit is 60 mph, whilst there are 2 amazing parks, acres of fields with bridle paths and a nature reserve all within 2 miles from here. It's as if their run only happened if someome actually saw them or they posted about it on SM...
Or as though their route meant they happened to need to use the same bit of road you did in your polluting hunk of metal. Perhaps the PROW they needed was blocked or poorly maintained. Perhaps they wanted to avoid horses on a bridle way. Perhaps the road was just their preference.

The road isn't yours, exclusively. If you don't feel you're safe driving then please dont drive.

inquietant · 03/01/2021 06:52

Anyone can use the bloody road particularly where there's no pavement. Cars are a bloody menace and the sooner we start to prioritise ANYthjng other than cars in public spaces the better.

This 100%.

nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 06:56

@FuckPolitenessSSDGM

FFS, this icy weather won't last forever. I doubt the runner will pack on 4 stone and get dvts because they don't run for a week during the freezing weather. There are other ways to exercise during the current restrictions.

I'm with you OP. It's dangerous and stupid to run on roads, especially when driving conditions are more challenging.

If you want to run, what are the other ways of running when gyms are closed.

Running isn't just about physical health for many, but also has mental health benefits. It's also difficult to overcome the inertia to actually get out a do exercise )"I'll do it tomorrow", "I can't run as I'll have to go in the road and some idiot will post about me on the internet" etc. It's not as simple as just... not doing it so People like OP aren't fucking inconvenienced into having to make sure they can actually see in front of them when driving.

nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 06:59

@MushMonster

If they were running in the road, then thay are unreasonable. They should stock to the pavement. If there is no pavement, then there should not be any running taking place. I have to confess I sometimes step into the road when I cross other pedestrians, walking, to allow for SD, but I check no car is anywhere near before doing so.
And if there is a car and people are walking towards you meaning you can't socially distance?

It's depressing the extent to which we have been conditioned to let cars dominate the way actual people use our public spaces. Cars should watch out for people, drive slowly and carefully enough that pedestrians, jogger, cyclists, kids etc. Can use the space to move around and stop fucking bullying all other road users

nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 07:03

@WhatTiggersDoBest

I'm sorry that you're getting pasted OP. I go running (I only started this year but I'm a longtime long-distance cyclist and occasional horse rider). There are rules for cyclists, rules for pedestrians and rules for drivers to follow. When you're in control of a vehicle (or animal) and everyone around you is behaving like idiots it can be frightening. Just because you're the driver that doesn't mean you should have to be a nanny looking out for every other sod on the road.
It really does. You drive as someone who realises at all times you could kill or maim someone less aware or savvy, or who simply makes an innocent error or judgement, at any point. Jesus, why is it so hard to understand when you get in a car you don't become special or higher up in the social hierarchy. You become a dangerous nuisance. Cars are useful and often necessary but if you don't realise the massive responsibility you take on every time you get in one you're a danger to other people, and yourself, and you need to find another way of getting around.
vickyq1983 · 03/01/2021 07:03

I feel like it's less about the activity and more about the person taking part in said activity. You can be a selfish pavement hogging / road using arsehole whether you are running, driving, on a bike, scooter, walking the dog etc etc. Pavements and roads are being used more by pedestrians at the moment due to the shit show we are currently living through. Maybe we should all just be a bit more aware of everyone and be kind. And stop moaning about insignificant shit.

nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 07:06

@Bargebill19

Personally I don’t mind other road users - provided they are sensible and single file. Sadly we have a cohort of walkers who think that it’s fine to walk down country lanes four or five abreast - right across the width of the road. They totally fail to move for approaching cars, thinking they have priority. Given some of the speeding motorists we have- it’s only a matter of time before someone is seriously hurt.
Good for them! Grin
nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 07:07

@GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER

They don’t run in the road around here. 99 times out of 100 they keep going dead straight on a narrow pavement, puffing and panting their potentially lethal breath a foot away from the person on the inside, even when it’s the sort of very quiet road when you could walk down the middle of it for a minute or two, no problem.

If I see or hear them coming, I’m the one walking down the middle of the road, but all too often they’re there before I’ve realised.
I bloody hate the lot of them.

Who hurt you?
Floatyboat · 03/01/2021 07:08

I presume this is a joke. If you can't see the road properly you should stop driving! Could be a jogger or a little old lady - still your responsibility to not run them over!

nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 07:09

@DinkyDiggies

Bloody Boris and all those clowns in Government. My pool and gym closed NYE as in tier 4. Going to do couch to 5k. The eff all else I can do.
Go for it. You'll be on the right side of history. You'll be healthier, happier and cost the taxpayer far less. We just need to work on these drivers who can't see past their millions of short journeys they could make on foot or by bike if other drivers didn't make the world such a terrifying place to navigate on foot
nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 07:13

@ifIwerenotanandroid

I still remember the daytime runner who ran over a bit of grass to the edge of the road opposite us, looked both ways & ran straight into our path. We managed to stop. He had earphones in & a glazed expression on his face. They aren't all perfect.

And don't get me started on cyclists who travel in single or double lines, half a dozen in line on narrow, twisting country lanes - & wave me round them into the path of oncoming traffic. I stay behind them until it's safe & boy, do they get upset that I'm there. Look guys, if you make yourself into something the legth of an articulated lorry, I'm not going to be able to get round you until there's some straight, clear road.

I think the idea is to stop you taking a punt and nipping round when you assume it's probably almost certainly safe, then taking them out.

Just take a deep breath, have some patience and pass them when you've got time and are sure it's safe. It really won't add more than seconds to your absolutely essential journey

Graciebobcat · 03/01/2021 07:13

I don't generally have a problem with joggers, but please realise joggers, or walkers, that if you are in the road after dark and have no reflective clothing, even drivers going quite slowly will not see you until you are right in front of the car.

Someone jogging gave me the fright of my life recently running near to the centre of a roundabout, on the road, at night, when I was driving. She just appeared at the side of the car.

People also walk down the narrow lane in the dark, in dark clothing, that runs up to the street I live on. I am very careful but sometimes other cars roar down there.

Choccorocco · 03/01/2021 07:14

I cycle on the roads. Would you have seen me in the light conditions that that you have described? Doesn’t sound like it!

I jog on roads if there are pedestrians on the pavements since no-one wants a jogger near them, particularly at the moment.

I also know people who purposely jog on the roads in 30mph areas to slow the car-driving idiots who like to speed on those particular roads, where there are houses with hidden entrances and many kids walking on the pavements.

nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 07:15

@Blibbyblobby

Second only to cyclists in the 'things it should be perfectly legal to mow down on the road' stakes

Well aren’t you a charmer? Personally, in the interests of road safety I think drivers who can’t be bothered to drive safely should have their cars compacted with them still inside

Don't worry, Blibby. If they drive on motorways with that attitude that outcome is inevitable. Hopefully won't take anyone else out when the do it
nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 07:17

@Ihatefish

The trouble with people doing high intensity exercise whilst dodging tons of metal rightfully travelling on the road is that the jogger’s adrenaline is built up, they think they have the right to play chicken (and chance of winning) with the hunk of metal. Many joggers running past you emit a whole force field of aggression as the go past. I don’t think they’re actually aware of it, but it can be very difficult for others trying to use the same space.
Spoken like someone who's never been for a run, clearly. Built up aggression?!
nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 07:18

@Blibbyblobby

So this is interesting for the people who think “roads are for cars.

Because of course we’ve only had cars for 100 years or so, but we’ve had roads for much much longer. So there must have been a time when roads weren’t automatically assumed to be there purely for drivers’ convenience, and something changed that.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26073797

“ The use of jaywalking as a term of ridicule against pedestrians crossing roads took off in the 1920s.
A key moment, says Norton, was a petition signed by 42,000 people in Cincinnati in 1923 to limit the speed of cars mechanically to 25mph (40kph). Though the petition failed, an alarmed auto industry scrambled to shift the blame for pedestrian casualties from drivers to walkers.”

(It’s about US laws but the attitudes are the same.)

And so we end up where we are today, with entitled drivers believing they own the road and it’s up to everyone else to stay out of their way.

This is fascinating! Thanks
Quirrelsotherface · 03/01/2021 07:20

You should get out yourself, OP. All those endorphins might make you feel a bit more relaxed with life.

Bunnyrun5 · 03/01/2021 07:20

Who are you calling joggers?!! We’ve not been called joggers since the 1980’s!! We are runners thank you.keep up!

I run on safe roads to avoid dog poo inconsiderate dog owners think pavements are for their dogs to poo on and not clear up.
Also to avoid inconsiderate walkers or should I say ‘strollers’ who never look around them and selfishly take up the whole pavement.
I’ve been told to get on the f**ing road by them. My reply I’m 60 years of age not ready to die just yet. So it seems there’s no pleasing anyone.

wellthatsunusual · 03/01/2021 07:21

Where I live the roads are awash with walkers and runners because there are no footpaths. There are even signs up telling motorists to be alert as there are likely to be walkers on the roads. The roads aren't just for cars.

nicebreeze · 03/01/2021 07:22

@HugeAckmansWife

To be fair re the winter sun, even wearing decent sunglasses, with wet roads reflecting the glare it can be incredibly difficult. I had to slow to a crawl the other day as I was driving directly into the sun and really couldn't see ahead at times. I'm a good driver.. All this 'you shouldn't be driving if you can't see the road' is ridiculous, but you do need to take extra care.
"All this 'you couldn't be driving if you can't see the road' is ridiculous"

Jesus Christ, THIS is why so many people are killed on the roads. Please don't tell me you own a car?

thosetalesofunexpected · 03/01/2021 07:26

Hi Op
I see more often Joggers in front with miners head torch light,leading the way for others to follow their flock,and any potential strays on the right path...

thosetalesofunexpected · 03/01/2021 07:36

I think having Joggers jogging out and about makes life more interesting for motorists..

Just like being behind a Tractor or a Carvannan
It keeps motorists Alert not complaclement for e.g habits/mistakes

I think its like a car driving endurance test.
Good for motorists to come across stuff like that I think .

I am no driver myself tho,

Graciebobcat · 03/01/2021 07:37

I don't consider Jogger an insult. When I go out I definitely jog, or plod, it can't be described as running.