To think we should bring back the clapping

[NYEPOPPER1]

We seem to be in a similar position to March and the NHS is coming under serious strain. Aibu to think now is the time to bring back the clapping?

No one wants THE CLAP! Especially not the NHS staff.

What they want and need is sufficient well trained staff, more funding, decent wages, appropriate equipments and resources.

Or at the very least the government making reasonable,sensible,consistent and beneficial decisions rather than the non sensical farts typewritten by monkeys that we have had so far.

And people following the rules the best they can.

No clapping, some people here,who were out clapping last time, made it a bit of a party night each week, standing close together, talking, handing out biscuits and cakes, children running all over the place trying to play with other children, all glad to be out for sure, but very close together.

Stop being a goady fucker @NYEPOPPER1

Don’t think this thread is going the way you hoped OP!
And yes, you are right Mumsnet doesn’t represent everyone but it’s a bloody good cross section , so I think we can safely say NO , not again!

Hi Boris.

Could we not pay health workers a decent wage instead?

I was out clapping every Thursday night, was unprecedented virus, nobody ever had to deal with before.
Now though, it's here and we just have to get on with it.

I’d rather bring back the clap.

It made most people I know who work in the NHS cringe with embarrassment and towards the end they found it profoundly annoying.
I know many people enjoyed the sense of community and a feeling that they ‘were doing something tangible’ to acknowledge what NHS staff were doing but most NHS workers loathed it after the first couple of weeks - particularly when Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock started using it as a photo opportunity.

But do try and think of something else which isn’t so crass. Send a nice card to your local hospital/surgery/care home thanking staff, or a box of biscuits. Every time you use an essential service or shop thank the individual who serves you for what they are doing. I actually made a shop assistant cry when I did this earlier in the year - she’d had an awful day with customers being rude to her about shortages and I was the first person to actually acknowledge how stressful it must be.

The best way we can thank frontline workers is to follow the rules, particularly around social distancing.

What they want and need is sufficient well trained staff, more funding, decent wages, appropriate equipments and resources.

Exactly, @accidentallyonpurpose . In the same year that NHS staff have been rejected a pay rise and accused of 'wasting' PPE, the last thing I'd imagine that they want to hear is people banging pots and pans when they're trying to sleep after a nightshift.

@SilverBirchWithout

It made most people I know who work in the NHS cringe with embarrassment and towards the end they found it profoundly annoying. I know many people enjoyed the sense of community and a feeling that they ‘were doing something tangible’ to acknowledge what NHS staff were doing but most NHS workers loathed it after the first couple of weeks - particularly when Boris Johnson and Matt Hancock started using it as a photo opportunity.

But do try and think of something else which isn’t so crass. Send a nice card to your local hospital/surgery/care home thanking staff, or a box of biscuits. Every time you use an essential service or shop thank the individual who serves you for what they are doing. I actually made a shop assistant cry when I did this earlier in the year - she’d had an awful day with customers being rude to her about shortages and I was the first person to actually acknowledge how stressful it must be.

The best way we can thank frontline workers is to follow the rules, particularly around social distancing.

My nurse friends asked us to put the energy into staying the fuck at home . 😁

I saw a video of two folk doing a ‘dance for the NHS’ wtaf? People setting up
Microphones and singing...noooo!

@NYEPOPPER1

But surely anything that would raise staff morale and bring a better sense of community would be a good thing

NHS staff don't want clapped they want better wages, better PPE, and to generally be treated like human beings. That's not in the hands of the general public.

A round of applause don’t pay the bills OP

@PleaseHoldCaller1

Please god, not more fecking clapping! What is the point of it? Half my street have had friends over and kids to play throughout the strictest lockdown period, but were out clapping like sea lions every week.

Just stay home and help the NHS by voting for a party that won't destroy it at the next opportunity to do so.

THIS

The NHS has been systematically underfunded and asset stripped by the Tories. If you want an NHS to exist for your children, stop voting for the fucking Tories.

No, just no

It was ok for the first few weeks when it was a genuine show of appreciation but after a while it became more about who could clap/bang saucepans/let off fireworks/(and although I hate the phrase) ‘virtue signal’ the loudest. Hi

Thank goodness that shite never caught on here in Ireland. You had a few gormless fools who tried it but thankfully it came to nothing. Seeing people acting like performing seals every Thursday night on British TV channels made me so glad it didn’t catch on here. So no, OP, absolutely don’t look for it to be brought back. It achieved zilch in reality.

Why is it “virtue signaling” and not a show of support and how do you differentiate?

A "show of support" would be backed up by real action, e.g. better salaries for nurses, HCAs, porters, hospital cleaners. France is fast-tracking citizenship for frontline healthcare workers.

Banging pans to wake up people preparing to go back into the hospital for another night shift doesn't really help anybody.

No thank you.

I often missed it because I was cooking dinner for DH after he had a long, hard shift at work. He didn't get any thanks from anyone despite helping people the whole time (not in healthcare but still was seen as essential) and I had neighbours staring in my kitchen window each time giving me daggers because I wasn't clapping. I wasn't going to risk burning his dinner for something that wouldn't have made a difference.

It's a nice idea in theory but it became more about virtue signalling than anything else.

Instead of clapping if you have an MP who is a covid denier or enabler write to your local press and call them out.

If you use social media respond robustly to any vaccine denier - the mass vaccination may be the only thing that is going to get us out of this mess.

Why is it “virtue signaling” and not a show of support and how do you differentiate?

You need to have this explained to you?

Week one was a nice (if pointless) gesture. After that it became a virtue signalling noise competition. The ringing of bells for lonely people on Christmas Eve was another virtue signalling shitfest under the guise of being kind.

What would really help the NHS is if people just stayed they fuck at home.

No, I think we all should follow the rules. It will help enormously.

No. Just no. All just virtue signalling, doing absolutely nothing to actually help nhs staff.

If you want to help nhs staff, stick to the rules and encourage others to do the same, short of a pay rise, that’s the only thing that will actually help them right now. Silly clapping won’t.

You are appalled by the people, who sought to enforce the clapping yet want it to restart. Can you not see you’re part of the problem? If it starts again, so will the bullying.

Yes!
I work for the nhs.
I loved the clapping