To think we should bring back the clapping

[NYEPOPPER1]

We seem to be in a similar position to March and the NHS is coming under serious strain. Aibu to think now is the time to bring back the clapping?

No. Clapping won't alleviate the level of bone tiredness and flat out exhaustion being felt by NHS workers up and down the country.

The best way to say thank you is to follow the rules and keep yourself healthy / be careful to avoid piling on yet more pressure

I liked the clapping, and did take part, but I wouldn't bring it back

The best way to support the NHS is to stay home, follow the rules, and turn up for your vaccine appointment

Oh God no, not the clapping again. It’s like a bad dream, make it stop!

Nope!! Never did it the first time round (actually made me cringe every time I saw people stood on their steps looking like prats!)

Ridiculously empty gesture...followed up constantly by people using the 'clap for carers/NHS' as some sort of moral standard to judge! Really pissed me off!!

No it was ridiculous. Do you realise emergency services staff work shifts and need to sleep?

As soon as November 5th rocked up the fireworks went off and the NHS staff begged for them to stop or only be let off for a short period and everyone laughed, told them to F* off and carried on.

Oh God No. one poor road had the joy of a resident playing the bagpipes in the street each week. Of course it was also posted on the local Facebook page as well.

It's a hard no from me. The first week was a really community minded, supportive, effort but then it became competitive and nasty. The virtue signalling prats who let off fireworks or air horns at 8pm were the ones who were breaking the rules at every opportunity and that really pissed me off.
Oh and being shamed on our street FB page for not taking part was the final straw. Especially given that I was taking part in a COVID response meeting at the time!!!!!!!!!!

Another no here, for the reasons already explained.

OP you are being disingenuous at best in your efforts to explain why NHS workers can't have a pay rise.

The money certainly is there. In the millions misspent on non-existent PPE, in the billions earned selling weapons to Saudi. It's there in the MP's pay rises and in their hedge fund interests.

The bigger picture here is that the Tories want to make everyone get so scared about their health and the state of the NHS that they pay for private health insurance. The gradual eroding of NHS resources is a big part of this, and telling us that there's "No money" is too.

There is plenty of money to fund a world beating socially responsible health care system in the UK but how would the Tories make money from that? For them it's all in the backing of private healthcare providers- and you can bet your bottom dollar that JR-M and his associates are making a tidy sum speculating on the market which they are creating and profiting from our fear and suffering.

Clapping, my arse. You speak like you're one of them.

@FrankiesKnuckle just wanted to say thank you for all you do. I can't imagine how bloody hard it is at the moment.

No I don't. The first week was novel, heartfelt and nice, after that it turned into neighbour top trumps, as they made more and more noise, and oh, chatted about the kids all playing together, poured each other glasses of wine and generally broke social distancing while appreciating the NHS and key workers.
It woke me up between shifts too.
I'd rather a bit of real backing from the public, paramedics and a&e staff not being assaulted would be a good start. Care workers not being dismissed as unskilled, doing a job anyone can do and actually respected for their role in society. Shop workers not abused in the course of their jobs. If the public wants to show their appreciation they can start there.

Not a bloody chance.

The clapping was ridiculous - I know a few people who work in NHS and they all thought it was a weird thing to do

No. The NHS needs funding properly, the staff need to be paid decent salaries and this virtue signalling clapping like performing seals needs to stop. It was nonsense the first time around and will be again. What a bloody joke.

Oh god no. I didn't want to clap the first night and I certainly have no interest in clapping now either. It's possibly one of the most awkwardly British things possible. Akin to clapping when a plane lands. Just no.

@NYEPOPPER1

But surely anything that would raise staff morale and bring a better sense of community would be a good thing

I think probably a pay rise and better working conditions would be more effective.

No. It was a ridiculous idea then and it is now.

No more virtue signalling please, there’s been enough this year

It’s a no from me, an NHS frontline worker..

OP if the government can find money to pay their mates to provide non existent PPE etc then they could find money to pay nurses. BUT that isn't what this government is about is it? They think clapping, like you OP, will be enough. It's not. It's insulting and now taking the piss. Stop saying the government haven't got the money. They have. They just choose to spend it on their mates.

No, fight for better NHS funding and staff treatment, hold the Government accountable, don't clap like a fucking seal to make sure all the neighbours know how PC you are...

No, let's not.

They have found the money for furlough through fiscally irresponsible borrowing that’s tolerable in the short term but long term the government need to look to limit government expenditure. Surely you understand that?

Hmm, you sound like someone I used to work with in Whitehall.....

If you are, and even if you aren't, you should know that the govt has wasted, is wasting and will waste more money on vanity projects than it would cost to give the NHS a decent pay rise. They just choose not to use it in that way because tories do not value a strong public sector.

There are also options like putting 1p on national insurance. But again they won't do it because it didn't, doesn't, will never suit their rhetoric.

There is only one thing left for people to do who want to protect the NHS and the rest of our public sector and that is to wake the fuck up to the consequences of losing it all and never vote Tory again.

God no.
I said to DH the other day I hope the clapping doesn't come back. Have to say that's mainly because our neighbour hijacked the whole thing and decided that she would get her massive speaker out every week and blast songs out while running up.and down the street encouraging everyone to dance ... It just became silly in the end. It should have been one week and that's it.

The best thing we can do for the NHS is to stick to the rules 100% and stay out of hospital!

If your neighbours like it OP then feel free to clap like a seal on your doorstep every week.
The woman across the road from me who is a nurse in ICU thought it was virtue signalling bullshit and said the last thing she wanted to do was drag herself off the sofa after a busy shift to be clapped at.