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Hilaria Baldwin pretended to be Spanish wtf?!

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Ballstothis148 · 28/12/2020 00:24

This is the least important and most weird story of 2020.... this woman comes up on my Instagram a lot as a suggested page. Tbh I don’t find her interesting but know she’s Spanish and is into health, having babies with Alec Baldwin and that’s pretty much it. She speaks with a Spanish accent, on her IG page she calls her children “Baldwinitos” Hmm I do remember an article saying when she speaks Spanish to her kids people confuse her for a nanny so I thought an interesting take on a European mum in the States.

Except it’s all a lie. She’s not remotely Spanish. Her wealthy Boston parents (no Spanish ancestry) now have a holiday home there.

What is wrong with people?! I include me for being too interested :) why pretend to be Spanish? In one interview she even pretended she didn’t know the word for cucumber as her English isn’t that good Confused

Oh and she’s not even called Hilaria, she’s called Hilary. This year I swear... what an odd story!! I did know a girl who went very French after a romance there one year... maybe it’s a thing!

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elp30 · 28/12/2020 15:30

[quote zanahoria]Banderas then recalled filling out an official form in the U.S.: When he went to check the box for "white" under race, he was told that was wrong, that he was Hispanic.

"I said, 'Hispanic isn't actually a race,' " Banderas told Ramos, but he went ahead and checked the Hispanic box. "Great, I'm happy to be Hispanic, Spanish, Latino, and if I'm a person of color, well then I'm a person of color."

The idea that Banderas is a white European may be obvious to many, especially those in the Latinx community, but it's not the first time a white Spaniard has been referred to in the U.S. as a "person of color" or Latinx.

After all, Spaniards are technically considered Hispanic by the U.S. Census Bureau, which defines the term as "a person of Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin regardless of race"

www.npr.org/2020/02/09/803809670/why-labeling-antonio-banderas-a-person-of-color-triggers-such-a-backlash[/quote]

That is quite new, actually.

On my birth certificate (I'm 50) and my son's (he's 28) our race is "white" but it also asks if we are of Mexican decent.

His children's birth certificates also has them as white but of Hispanic origin with Mexican as a specific notation.

I'm with Antonio Banderas. I'm white but with Mexican origin and I wouldn't consider it a race but an ethnicity. It was quite confusing filling the census.

SnowyOwlWan · 28/12/2020 15:31

I'm not on twitter, but if amy schumer has every said anything against ''our jk'' then wow the hypocrisy

SnowyOwlWan · 28/12/2020 15:32

i was barking up the wrong tree there, apologies

elp30 · 28/12/2020 15:33

@zanahoria

Btw, Latinx is not a word I would EVER use and I do find it ridiculous and would HATE anyone referring me as such.

NewyearNewme2021 · 28/12/2020 15:35

@Florencemattell

This I agree let’s all be kind. So she exaggerates her Spanish connection. I have read that school friends and her step daughter all say she is a kind person. Leave her alone.
Agree

Hardly crime of the century

SnowyOwlWan · 28/12/2020 15:37

Yes, it's true. Not a fan of public shaming.

SnowyOwlWan · 28/12/2020 15:39

On the subject of accents, Alicia Vikander blows me away. She is Swedish and can in my opinion speak English without any trace of an accent. More difficult I think, even though the two languages are similar, she spoke unbelievably good Danish in The Royal Affair

It is a skill that some people have.

Kalula · 28/12/2020 15:40

@GreenlandTheMovie Wikipedia requires sources to be cited, or your posted article is removed. This has been the case for many years now. And these sources are listed in the Bibliography at the bottom of the entries. So, many universities do accept Wikipedia or at least Wikipedia sources.

GreenlandTheMovie · 28/12/2020 15:44

WhereDOMyBluebirdsFly Why is it always women who get exposed as being frauds though? There's a real sexist undercurrent around this kind of social media feeding frenzy.

I would agree with you on that. A lot of people have it in for women who do well, but Alexandra Grant has lied much more extensively than Hilaria Baldwin, so it almost seems as though society particularly has it in for attractive women, whereas the grey-haired, unglamororus Grant has got away with a much easier ride in comparison. And perhaps men are just less often caught out.

I honestly thought that Keanu Reeve's girlfriend might escape this trial by social media due to the fact that he is so well liked, he lives a low-key life, he doesnt court publicity, she's not a celebrity and is just a normal person, but no. The keyboard warriors combed through everything in her past to somehow discredit her work and crow about how fake she is. It's sickening.

Hilaria obviously speaks fluent Spanish and enjoys the culture; let her live her life. She hasn't committed any crimes. She hasn't killed anyone. She identified with something that's clearly a huge part of her life. No, it's not the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, but what celebrity is 100% factually accurate at all times?*

Well, she lied for years, claiming amongst other things, to have founded the Women's Center for Creative Work, claimed that her art was displayed at the Gallery of Ontario (who had never heard of her), her own charity is a for-profit charity and there is no transparency as to where the money raised for artists actually goes to, but there are many more examples of fake claims relating to her supposed artistic work and charity work going back years which simply aren't true. She has a PR team and legal team working hard to maintain her image as a talented, artistic individual and milks her long standing friendship with Keanu for PR photos. She really doesn't deserve your sympathy. She has certainly made a lot of money out of being given work on the basis of her false, professional claims.

Hilaria is just a yogi and a media influencer. She is small fry by comparison.

Why must the Internet tear people to shreds for various minor crimes? God, I'd hate to be famous.

I personally think Grant is lucky not to have been tried for fraud.

But she typifies what likely goes on a lot in Hollywood, and I don't understand how a woman who speaks such perfect Spanish and whose educational and childhood history is not definitively proven is being treated so much worse.

WhenPidgeonsCry · 28/12/2020 15:51

I think people assume accents are hard if they can’t do them (I can’t, I can do some dismiss, but it has a Scottish accent, lol) but they’re not hard for everyone

Speaking a foreign language (i.e. one you learned as a second language, so that doesn't include raised bilingual or trilingual since birth) without an accent IS hard. Very, very few people can do it. Despite the fact that so many people on here seem to think they can speak their second language perfectly or their husband's brother's dog can speak 6 languages with completely native accents in all of them.

zzizz · 28/12/2020 15:56

People here aren't calling for her to be burnt at the stake FFS, but its silly to suggest that the entire conversation should be shut down. She's made a lot of money and built a public persona on some stupid lies. That was always going to backfire eventually.

WhenPidgeonsCry · 28/12/2020 16:00

People here aren't calling for her to be burnt at the stake FFS

Exactly. People are just laughing at an absurd situation and questioning why somebody would behave this way! She chooses to live her life in the public eye ffs!

NewyearNewme2021 · 28/12/2020 16:03

@zzizz

People here aren't calling for her to be burnt at the stake FFS, but its silly to suggest that the entire conversation should be shut down. She's made a lot of money and built a public persona on some stupid lies. That was always going to backfire eventually.
I think it's the double standards I find hard. You can change your sex and we are supposed to accept that but someone pretends to be a different nationality or ethnic group and it's suddenly a terrible thing to do? I mean, aren't they both the same
YouSetTheTone · 28/12/2020 16:12

@NewyearNewme2021 quite! If there weren’t any double standards Hilaria would be applauded for being brave, and if any people whose passports said they were Spanish had any problems with what she’d done they’d be told to put up with it*

*in some cases what they’d be told would be couched in extremely violent terms.

LittleBearPad · 28/12/2020 16:13

It’s all very odd

LaArtemisia · 28/12/2020 16:15

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StealthPolarBear · 28/12/2020 16:15

They aren't the same. Actually changing your nationality is a hell of a lot more believable

Cocolapew · 28/12/2020 16:16

Why do people keep saying Alec Baldwin is a has been or washed up actor? He's a regular on SNL, and in the last few years has been in films such as Motherless Brooklyn, BlacKKKlansman, Mission Impossible and A Star is Born.
I just mentioned to DH the other day every film we watched he popped up in it.

NotaChocoholic · 28/12/2020 16:18

Why do people keep saying Alec Baldwin is a has been or washed up actor?

extended dig at Hilaria.

NewyearNewme2021 · 28/12/2020 16:20

[quote YouSetTheTone]**@NewyearNewme2021* quite! If there weren’t any double standards Hilaria would be applauded for being brave, and if any people whose passports said they were Spanish had any problems with what she’d done they’d be told to put up with it

*in some cases what they’d be told would be couched in extremely violent terms.[/quote]
yes and that is what I find hard to accept. Rachael dolezal was almost crucified career wise but brought Bruce Jenner is "brave and beautiful". But they both have identity and mental issues.

jillypill · 28/12/2020 16:21

I just mentioned to DH the other day every film we watched he popped up in it.

I thought the 5 kids was the reason he's back on the scene, that's ££££. He looks bloody knackered whenever I see him.

Gurufloof · 28/12/2020 16:23

This is the new civil rights movement, and everyone should be entitled to the passport which reflects their authentic self. Anything less is literal Nazism

Absolutely, I feel stunning AND brave today as I embrace my Canadian self. When can I move to my home country? And also I identify as being rich enough to buy one of the big houses on the lake Ontario shoreline. One with stables for my horses I'm about to buy with my newly identified wealth.

pinfloy · 28/12/2020 16:30

On the subject of accents, Alicia Vikander blows me away. She is Swedish and can in my opinion speak English without any trace of an accent.

My Danish husband can nearly always spot Swedes or Danes speaking English even when I can't. I'll have to test him with this actress

Cherrysoup · 28/12/2020 16:32

Speaking a foreign language (i.e. one you learned as a second language, so that doesn't include raised bilingual or trilingual since birth) without an accent IS hard

For some, not for all. Let’s not generalise.

LittleBearPad · 28/12/2020 16:36

“I’m getting attacked for being who I am … people wanting to label me Spanish or American, can’t it be both?”

It’s really very odd - she isn’t Spanish at all. It may be that she had a Spanish nanny who she was very close to who essentially raised her but it seems to have created confusion in her identity.