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When is a "normal" age to lose your virginity?

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goosefats · 25/12/2020 22:28

Name changed because this is something I would not like to follow me around on here, if you please Grin

I was having a little Xmas Zoom call with one of my female friends this evening and we got a little drunk on our (individual) Pinot Grigios, and things started getting a little personal. We began talking about our first times, to which I told her I had sex for the first time at 15. She immediately had a "Shock Oh my GOD, Goosefats!" response which I thought was a little mad as I figured that was a normal age.
According to her, it was far too young and I'm wondering what the general consensus is?

Obviously it's a personal choice, just to preface! I'm just curious as to what age you think is appropriate and what age you'd have a strong response to Grin Relatively light-hearted thread, and please be kind to my friend, she's salt of the Earth but relatively sheltered (bless her heart!). x

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TremoloGreen · 26/12/2020 01:30

Virginity is an odd concept to me. Do you mean PIV sex between a man and a woman? If so, I was 17 (mid-90s) and most people I knew were 15-18. It was the summer before uni, however, the summer before that, I had my first experience that I would call sex, with a girl around my age.

Usually, snogging without any pressure for it to go further was a thing from early teens, then everyone became a bit obsessed with whether or not to go further (usually messing about with other sexual stuff without going full PIV) from about 15-plus. Only heterosexual sex was ever discussed/admitted to, I imagine (hope) that's different now.

goosefats · 26/12/2020 01:36

Virginity is an odd concept to me. Do you mean PIV sex between a man and a woman?

I think that's maybe the image people typically get in their head, but it's pretty heteronormative. I also think it would be ridiculous to assume that everyone who's only ever been in same-sex relationships is a virgin!

By "losing your virginity" I guess I think that means anything where you thought "I'm not a virgin anymore" (or more crudely, I suppose oral / anal or vaginal sex are all things I think could "count" in my perspective but it's not necessarily limited to those things). It's all a construct anyway so I'm using the turn of phrase quite loosely Grin

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QueenPawPaws · 26/12/2020 01:41
  1. First kiss was about 10 I think? I was dating a 17yo when I was 12 Blush but we never had sex and he never pressured me into anything, it was a pretty innocent relationship
OTannenbaum · 26/12/2020 02:11

I was 23 and well aware that I was an outlier at that point!

I was a late bloomer in that I went through puberty quite late in for some reason, was a few weeks away from my 16th birthday before I started my periods and starting to worry there was something terribly wrong with me etc. So I looked like a little girl until about 17, doubly hard to deal with as I was one of the youngest in the year anyway. And was also very academic with quite a sheltered home life in a very Christian family. So not exactly part of the cool crowd at school although I envied them! My friends were similarly geeky etc (albeit mostly not religious) but most of them lost their virginity around 17/18 when they started dating (one of them at 15 which we all found quite shocking at the time although we were also aware many girls in our year at a mixed state school in N Ireland in the mid to late 1990s were having sex around about 15 (or as young as 13/14 if you were in the cool crowd) - just didn’t expect one of our own crowd to be quite so “trendy”! I would say looking back that this friend was actually the victim of mild child neglect with alcoholic parents, although I hadn’t totally framed it as such in my head at the time, and I suspect that played a role in her having sex earlier than the rest of our deeply uncool friendship group. And I’d say actually that a lot of the cool crowd also had rather unhappy chaotic unstable home lives etc. Many of the girls who had sex particularly young (like under 15) it was with much older boyfriends. I envied those girls at the time and thought they seemed so mature etc, but honestly I look back on it now and think what fully grown man in their 20s (and in some cases 30s) wants to go out with a 13/14 year old schoolgirl?!...

I didn’t have a boyfriend til I was 18 after I left school. And had originally intended to wait until marriage to have sex for religious reasons, hence no sex with that boyfriend (I felt a strong urge to make that a sexual relationship, and if it was not for my religious beliefs I likely would have, but managed to resist and it was easier to keep it non-sexual as he was a virgin too - he was from another culture, I met him on my gap year in SE Asia and he was a local). However I didn’t manage it in the end and decided age 23 to have sex with my uni boyfriend of 2 years.

He had split up with me the preceding summer, I think partly due to sexual frustration although he didn’t spell that out to me at the time. He had respected my beliefs about waiting for marriage but didn’t share them as he was not Christian, so didn’t pressure me to have sex, but he had previously been sexually active and I think he found it understandably difficult to be in a relationship with me without sex being part of it. Anyway, when we saw each other again on the first day back at uni we got back together immediately as we’d missed each other so much, and I told him I’d changed my mind.

Looking back I still feel slightly conflicted about that decision, as essentially I was then in a situation where although he wasn’t intentionally putting pressure on me to have sex, I did feel like I would “lose” him if I didn’t. And slightly wish I’d had the courage of my convictions as I am still a Christian, and continue to feel some guilt over being sexually active before marriage despite my beliefs.

At the same time, I have I think always had a naturally high sex drive and had been finding it increasingly frustrating and difficult myself to not be having sex with him, as it felt completely natural to move to that from kissing etc. And I have to say that the sex was completely amazing, fun and tender with him, including my first time. Also my later husband (a different person - ultimately split up with the uni boyfriend as we just didn’t want the same things in life eg he didn’t eventually want marriage and kids, I did etc) unfortunately turned out to be a compete bastard who cheated on me and subjected me to domestic abuse, so I have to say I’m still now quite glad in a way that I didn’t “save myself for my husband”. There is also part of me that thinks God created us to be sexual beings and that in Biblical times, waiting for marriage certainly didn’t mean into your 30s potentially. Against that, I do also sometimes think that perhaps relationships and my life generally might all have turned out differently (and better) had I managed to follow my faith better and perhaps sought out more Christian friends to help me do that, and perhaps I let myself down in terms of following my own script and not God’s, hence the serious problems I have faced with domestic abuse etc.

Anyway, overall I think I don’t regret the decision. It was a very positive first sexual experience for me, and I felt very relaxed and secure within the context of a loving relationship with someone I knew very well, we were like best friends as well as sexual partners and although it didn’t work out ultimately, while it lasted it was I think a mutually good and healthy relationship, and not just sexually. And I felt in control and mature enough to handle everything that comes along with sex, including not just the emotions but the practical stuff like getting STD tests before being sexually active with each other and having to go to ask the pharmacist for the morning after pill when the condom split one time even though it’s embarrassing etc.

To answer your question about how young is too young, I do think teens can mature at wildly different rates but I suspect 13 or even 14 is way too young for the huge majority (although I believe I have met some girls that age who can definitely handle it), and definitely 12 would leave me feeling really quite shocked and worrying about sexual abuse. I reckon the huge majority of girls are nowhere near ready til about 17/18. I suspect that religious issues aside, I’d have been ready at 18 but I also think I did benefit from having those few extra years to feel super comfortable and confident about having sex to the point of being able to not only deal with emotions and logistics but have really satisfying sex through honest conversations with my boyfriend about what was or was not working for me, what I wanted to try and what i really didn’t etc.

Cowgran · 26/12/2020 02:19

I was 18. This was in the early 2000s

AlwaysLatte · 26/12/2020 02:26

I was 16 😳

yelyah22 · 26/12/2020 02:27

I was 16, but about 50% of my friends were 15. I know two who were 11 (WAY too young) but most were between 14-19. So I wouldn't say 15 was unusual!

StarlightLady · 26/12/2020 02:29

I was 14 or 15. I can’t remember which side of my 15th birthday it actually was. I’d been receiving regular oral for some months before.

I was quite a “bookish” teenager, sex was my escapism, when hormones were bubbling. l didn’t have a wild side. It was with a boy of similar age, l’m in my 40s now and no regrets.

A word about language though, l consider “lost virginity”, is negative “manspeak”, l don’t consider anything back then was “lost”.

yelyah22 · 26/12/2020 02:32

I would add 16 was for boy/girl PIV. I was doing pretty much everything else at 13 onwards with one boy who I had a weirdly wholesome school version of FWBs with. He was strangely progressive for a teenage boy and very focused on me - it set me up for a healthy relationship with sex and I always think fondly of him haha!

goosefats · 26/12/2020 02:46

A word about language though, l consider “lost virginity”, is negative “manspeak”, l don’t consider anything back then was “lost”.

I do (personally) consider it a loss of some kind but I can understand why you would think that. It was just an attempt at terminology that made an easy-to-read title. Of course, many people don't consider it a "loss" by any means and so I hope some new terminology is coined soon that is slightly more interesting than "the first time you had sex" Grin

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StarlightLady · 26/12/2020 03:12

@goosefats - l fully understand why you used the term. I was questioning society’s use, which to me, is linked to the viewpoint that “nice girls” don’t do that sort of thing. Or even worse language such as “defiled”.

I prefer “gained womanhood” as a positive interpretation.

For me, the only thing that spoiled the first time was that it was organised in advance like a military operation when we knew we could be alone together. And thanks to sister for supplying the condoms!

Justa47 · 26/12/2020 03:57

I was 15 and well I guess I wish I had waited.

GintyMcGinty · 26/12/2020 04:05

Most of my friends were 16/17. I was 18.

LongPauseNoAnswer · 26/12/2020 04:08

I was 19 and probably last in my friends group.

I was already obese by then so that definitely played a part as opportunities were far less.

Hailtomyteeth · 26/12/2020 04:19

I was eighteen. My dd 19. My mum was an abused child so didn't get any choice but was sexually active outside the home by 13. My dad was 8 (the girl was 14).

I think the concept of 'lost virginity' isn't helpful to women. It's as if we were fine before and broken afterwards. 'When did you first have sex?' works better for me as it suggests a woman has made a positive choice to become sexually active. Some of us get to make that choice, at least.

1forAll74 · 26/12/2020 04:38

It was about 17-18 in my young days,mid 1960 's era. It was difficult at times, as parents were quite strict about such things, and there was usually nowhere to go for some fun, except some odd ball places. Not a lot of young people had a vehicle. A lot of my friends,said their Mothers would throw them out of the home if they got pregnant in those days. In my small town where I lived then, there was a special Mother and Baby home, for girls who had been chucked out of their home when they became pregnant.

Incrediblytired · 26/12/2020 04:42

I was 16, most of my friends were very similar - 16-18. University we we’re feral. It felt the right age to me.

HamishDent · 26/12/2020 05:04

17 plus was normal in my friendship group. I wasn’t aware of any younger than that at school, but I guess there must have been some.

readingismycardio · 26/12/2020 05:47

I was 15, too. Actually it was the exact bloody day when I turned 15. I do regret it. I wish I waited for someone worthy.

LuckyNumberThirteen · 26/12/2020 05:52
  1. Most of my friends were 15.
MrsOmelette · 26/12/2020 06:04

I was 15. I wish I’d waited. I know my exH was 13, and my DH was 29. There is no “normal”.

Puffincrossing · 26/12/2020 06:24

13, couple of months from being 14 for me. My dd is 12 so I am getting a different view on how young that is now but I was with my boyfriend about 2 years and no regrets. I do regret having sex with a 25 year old when I'd just turned 16 (on reflection I can see that he waited until I was legal) as I was infatuated and fell completely for his 'my wife doesn't understand me' bollocks.

Several friends were 15/16 but lost their virginity during ons, or with very inappropriate people and regret it. It was the early/mid 90's and just something everyone said they were was doing. I only remember there being 1 pregnancy while I was at school so may be not as many people were doing it as they said.

ScubaSteven · 26/12/2020 06:50

15, just before I turned 16 - I'd been with my then boyfriend for a year and we'd had a lot of time to build up to it. We were together until we were mid 20s. Speaking to friends, they all thought that was young and at the time I remember them thinking I was being forced into it. I was very quiet and shy, my boyfriend was very popular and outgoing. We were very compatible but no one thought we were and the sex was amazing, my friends were all 17/18+ when they lost theirs and they didn't understand how I could have been ready before they were.

groovergirl · 26/12/2020 06:56

I was 22, which was early enough for me. I was streetwise and didn't take any shit. Most of my friends were 19-23. One had little interest in sex until she fell in love with a woman at 31, came out as lesbian and happily made up for lost time Wink.

One friend, from a terrible home, was bullied into it at 12. Another was raped by a neighbour at 14, but the police refused to prosecute the guy.

PollyDarton1 · 26/12/2020 07:07

I was 16.
I was older than my boyfriend at the time and he didn't turn 16 until about 3 months into us going out, and I refused to have sex with him till he turned 16 as I was afraid I would get done for it! Grin