May Hope and History Rhyme (Trump#116)

[lionheart]

With thanks to Seamus Heaney for inspiring the President Elect.

"History says, don't hope
On this side of the grave.
But then, once in a lifetime
The longed-for tidal wave
Of justice can rise up,
And hope and history rhyme."

Got a lot of joy out of billiards too... And some money out of pool.

And the fiddlers often happened in the same pubs.

@Cacacoisfarraige

It’s like ‘the apprentice video’ post presidency and hit with a shilleagh. The music is incredibly strange and the last line reads like it was suggested by a non English speaker - Putin ?

It was put together by someone really mediocre who couldn’t really be arsed

A lot of scammers deliberately use shit grammar and spelling. For the very simple reason they want to exclude the educated from their appeal.

If you aren't able to pick up bad spelling and grammar in your own language, then you are guaranteed to be unable to understand what's being said. Hence flags and slogans "hearts and minds".

If you like elitist and apposite analogies, the idea seems to be to get the cows running the farm because they are big and heavy and pretty much outnumber all the other - cleverer - animals.

This is rapidly heading towards my definition of a very well-spent youth indeed.

It's all very funny, Bonaparte's retreat, that tiny desk, dancing to YMCA, the song in the background when he visted a meat factory

Thanks for explaining the cultural reference. Hilarious

Hmmm, and I wonder what the political demographic of those 2 counties might be?

Judge orders Georgia counties to halt voter purge ahead of Senate runoff.
Counties appeared to have improperly relied on unverified change-of-address information to invalidate voter registrations.
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/29/georgia-senate-runoff-counties-judge-halts-voter-purge?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

The Deep Story of Trumpism
Thinking about the Republican Party like a political psychiatrist.
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/12/deep-story-trumpism/617498/

Anyone seen the White House statement on the martyrdom of Thomas Beckett? It is not entirely historically accurate (no surprises) but the promotion of a saints cult for political reasons is quite medieval in spirit

The cynic in me can't help feeling that when it goes on about religious freedoms and the right to follow religious convictions etc they actually wanted to write 'Christian freedoms.

@terrywynne

Anyone seen the White House statement on the martyrdom of Thomas Beckett? It is not entirely historically accurate (no surprises) but the promotion of a saints cult for political reasons is quite medieval in spirit

The cynic in me can't help feeling that when it goes on about religious freedoms and the right to follow religious convictions etc they actually wanted to write 'Christian freedoms.

The real story of Thomas Beckett is how quickly the Church cashed in on his death - within minutes.

From memory the Canterbury Tales make a similar sly point.

The Trumps Tale needs to be written. It really does.

www.axios.com/mcconnell-blocks-stimulus-checks-db1d9bc2-0eae-44b6-871f-8df37ca66634.html

Woah!

I remember someone (Comey? Clapper) sitting in a Senate(?) hearing citing, “Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?” as the method used by the Trump admin to get rid of people who failed to put Trump above country.

That's an... interesting choice for a statement from the Trump White House.

I notice they've also shoved in “rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God”. Wonder who the tyrant referred to is? Who is being called to arms?

Then there's a really clunky para at the bottom, trying to slip in a reversal and hope no one notices. Because of course, religions attempting to dictate the laws of sovereign nations, crosses the boundary of church-state interference just as much as nations attempting to dictate the beliefs of religions.

In fact, now I read that again...

Thomas Becket’s martyrdom changed the course of history. It eventually brought about numerous constitutional limitations on the power of the state over the Church across the West.

Erm, are you going to tell them about Henry VIII and the establishment of the church of England, or shall I?

Here is the link
www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/proclamation-850th-anniversary-martyrdom-saint-thomas-becket/

It mentions the Magna Carta

So basically it's a heap of ahistorical crap attempting to press various emotive buttons, which falls apart on even slight inspection.

Just for a change.

It is a very weird statement... It is not a period I know in detail but I never associated the Beckett murder that strongly either with magna Carta or changing the course of history.

Does Trump need Catholic support urgently? I associated his followers with Evangelism not Catholicism (though that might be stereotyping on my part).

How very odd. Here in the UK I doubt anyone except a practising Catholic would know it was St Thomas a Becket's Feast Day.

The last para seems to imply that the White House thinks it's the 850th anniversary because Trump has proclaimed that it is. Tell that to the Pope!

lionheart, the bills today got a Beau of the Fifth comment:

"How very odd. Here in the UK I doubt anyone except a practising Catholic would know it was St Thomas a Becket's Feast Day."

I did, but only because I collect saints' days. For instance the patron saint of authors (Francis of Sales) has two days, and they are five days apart; clearly one was the deadline and the other was when he handed in the copy.

Does Trump need Catholic support urgently?

How will that go down with the KKK knuckleheads ?

@DGRossetti

Does Trump need Catholic support urgently?

How will that go down with the KKK knuckleheads ?

Is it all not to do with Biden being a practising Catholic, or am I missing the point here?

@TheSilveryPussycat

How very odd. Here in the UK I doubt anyone except a practising Catholic would know it was St Thomas a Becket's Feast Day.

The last para seems to imply that the White House thinks it's the 850th anniversary because Trump has proclaimed that it is. Tell that to the Pope!

Yeah, that's weird. It's 850 years because I SAY SO!

@AskingQuestionsAllTheTime

"How very odd. Here in the UK I doubt anyone except a practising Catholic would know it was St Thomas a Becket's Feast Day."

I did, but only because I collect saints' days. For instance the patron saint of authors (Francis of Sales) has two days, and they are five days apart; clearly one was the deadline and the other was when he handed in the copy.

For instance the patron saint of authors (Francis of Sales) has two days, and they are five days apart; clearly one was the deadline and the other was when he handed in the copy.

Well I'm glad I didn't have a mouthful of tea when I read that.

Since when does the US issue proclamations commemorating the martyrdom of religious figures (of any religion)? Did he issue a proclamation about the Jewish martyrs at Masada or the 5 martyrs of Shia Islam?

Last I looked the US is still not a Theocracy.

Makes me wonder who in the WH thought this one up.

I have ceased to feel the slightest surprise at any weirdness or stupidity whatever from that particular source.