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AIBU?

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To consider delaying school for summer born DD?

115 replies

SunnyChange · 13/12/2020 10:37

Me and DH are not on the same page with this so I'm wondering which of us is BU.

3 year old DD is quite bright, we're consistently told she's ahead of her peers. We do phonics with her at home, she can write her name, recognise letters and talk about words that start with them, etc. She can't read yet but I guess we have until September. However, she will tend to shut down if you push her too hard on trying to teach her something and then just mess around/use distraction to stop. Doesn't always follow instructions at the moment and preschool have said she's a bit "cheeky".

Socially, she's an independent busy body, quite social and other children all gather around her to welcome her in and play with her when he gets dropped off (I can see through the window) but takes time to settle with other adults and children, she seems to need one person as a security blanket for a little while until she branches out. She doesn't like witnessing negative behaviour and will dislike another child based on them being unkind once and needs others to respect it when she says she doesn't want them to talk to her or follow her, etc and if they don't can get quite emotional. We talk about feelings and debrief on why people do things all the time, even whilst watching TV to try and get her to understand things.

She has gone to preschool longer than the school day for 5 days a week since she was 1 so I'm not concerned about the length of day. My concerns are the not listening to instructions, shutting down with being taught sometimes and some of the social aspects. She's smaller than her peers but will jump around like them just the same.

I've mentioned it to DH who has flat out said no. His reason is that he teaches primary and said she's already at the stage of some of the Year 1s, he says you can tell some children have never had longer days at school and that kind of social interaction prior to school so she'll be fine.

AIBU to think maybe she'd benefit from delaying the school start by a year?

OP posts:
goldenharvest · 13/12/2020 16:28

She sounds really ready for school. 4-5 years olds don't sit quietly and listen without distraction, so she's not unusual in that

MiniCooperLover · 13/12/2020 16:30

She sounds more than ready for school. The listening will come in the class

HavelockVetinari · 13/12/2020 16:36

Honestly, I'd delay her if possible - research shows very clearly that summer born children are disadvantaged throughout their school career, all the way up to 18.

Yes, I KNOW there are plenty of summer born kids who do well for themselves, but the research really does show that in general and on average you'd be better off delaying them.

Thisismylife1 · 13/12/2020 16:41

Very bad idea. Looked into this for about 2 minutes. Even if you can (and clear no given right, the press has been misleading) you might find at secondary you have to send them into the year above!

You sound pretty entitled. She’s bright, just send her in the right year!

boymum9 · 13/12/2020 16:50

I wouldn't. We have a summer born (31st august) son and are considering delaying his start but that's because he had a (now resolved) hearing issue and his speech is still delayed, is quite behind on all things apart from physicality. Your daughter sounds further ahead than our older ds before he started school and he's doing extremely well and is very bright and ahead of his peers in a lot of aspects although is also a summer baby

Tfoot75 · 13/12/2020 16:51

The class will be learning phonics (from scratch) in reception. The school won't set different work for your dd, she will just have to repeat stuff she already knows and it might not start her with a strong love for learning if the first year of school is stuff you've already taught. I would not even consider it a plausible option in your situation you should be allowing your dd to experience learning alongside her peers not trying to get her ahead of them then sending her late as well Confused

Throughabushbackwards · 13/12/2020 18:07

We held our DS back this year, but he was nowhere near as ready as your DD seems to be. He was still having many toileting accidents each week back in Sept, and seemed unable to carry out many of the key tasks that children are expected to be able to do to be ready for school. His nursery agreed that he absolutely was not ready and helped us enormously in getting the school on board and agreeing his deferral. What does your DDs nursery say? That's who I would be relying on for a sensible opinion.

Lancrelady80 · 13/12/2020 18:14

We delayed my son by a year, absolutely the best choice for him.

I would not even be considering it for your daughter from your description.

HavelockVetinari · 13/12/2020 18:18

@Thisismylife1

Very bad idea. Looked into this for about 2 minutes. Even if you can (and clear no given right, the press has been misleading) you might find at secondary you have to send them into the year above!

You sound pretty entitled. She’s bright, just send her in the right year!

Don't be ridiculous, secondary school would have to show it was in her best interests to miss a year, which would be VERY tough to do!

Also, for anyone saying exams need to be taken out of cohort, no they jolly well don't.

Flipflops85 · 13/12/2020 18:58

@Tfoot75

The class will be learning phonics (from scratch) in reception. The school won't set different work for your dd

I’m a teacher and I would. My class span an enormous ability range. Do you think we just pitch in the middle and hope for the best? There are so many ways you can differentiate learning effectively, particularly within a play based curriculum.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 13/12/2020 20:01

@bookworm14

It’s all very well saying ‘starting school at just 4 is madness’, but plenty of children thrive. They are not sitting at desks being drilled on times tables and the kings of England; it’s mostly play. And the comparison with Scandinavia, which always gets trotted out on these threads, is false. Yes, they don’t start school until 6 or 7 but most of them have been in childcare settings since they were babies, and will have started some academic learning during that time. They don’t just play until they’re 7.
They don't do formal learning until 6 years old, so it is a bit different. The children that "thrive" would also thrive if they started the next year, its not because they started school at 4.
FamilyOfAliens · 13/12/2020 20:37

Deferring your child because of a general opinion that we send children to school too early in England has to be one of the most ridiculous reasons to defer that I’ve ever heard.

Lancrelady80 · 13/12/2020 20:56

Havelock Vetinari...this is exactly the line we are being told by County about my son. So it's very much a thing.

However...we will be fighting it all the way for exactly the reasons you say!

LoveMyKidsAndCats · 13/12/2020 23:36

Op YABVU.

randomsabreuse · 14/12/2020 00:04

As I've probably said before DD enjoyed school starting at 4. She appeared to "thrive" on it once we'd got through some necessary battles about who is actually in charge...

However starting at 5 in the Scottish system would have been better, even if she'd been towards the top of the age range because there's more flexibility in school start dates - January and February birthdays often defer to the following year, as well as some December/November children so a March born child would not necessarily be the oldest. I also think the extra 6 months before any children start makes a massive difference to maturity, there are far fewer emotional handovers this year than there were in reception, despite the disruption from March until August, and no parents have ever been in the classroom/school building with the kids!

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