Boris Johnson and your disingenuous divs - How dare you try and spin a NoDeal. I dint want to look at your stupid smirking faces anymore. Get off! Snakes of the highest order! Enough!

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I can’t bear to even look at them anymore, Even Boris can hardly find the words - or hide the shame. He has failed and this will be his legacy. Oven-ready deal indeed. Fools! AIBU?

This is from 2018
publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201719/ldselect/ldeucom/129/129.pdf

With the soils and land quality we have too, which are degraded. There is talk that agriculture may be improved here in that regard post-Brexit, but that does not solve our number problems now. We need that deal and the transportation network to deliver it.

Well according to the Daily Telegraph...

'One year on from his greatest triumph, the country won't blame Boris for a no-deal Brexit'

I fucking well will.

Agreed. I don’t know who they think ‘the country’ is there. There is no one else, except Gove and Cummings, who bears the same level of responsibility. Cameron for calling the referendum, May for stupidly launching article 50 with no agreed plan; but the person who campaigned for it, lied for it, stabbed other politicians in the back for it, claimed he could negotiate better and everyone else was inadequate; we all know who that was.

Oh well we will be fine

We only have to learn to live off oxygen, only oxygen mind you, no food, and walk everywhere.

Possibly bare foot though as we won’t be to get everything in we need.

But we will be fine! We took back the country after all

The fishermen won't be OK, the majority of fish caught in British waters is sold to the continent. They need a trade deal to stop the fish being held up in customs
If EU countries wish to buy our fish then surely they will continue buying it and facilitate it getting to their people?

We have extra food in the house. We have Irish passports. We saved up and paid an extra year on our mortgage. That's all I can do. I won't be at the shops whinging about not being able to get food. I will be able to cobble together a roof over our heads if I lose my job. In the unlikely event we can travel internationally any time soon , I will travel as an Irish citizen.
And all the idiots on here who called me a scaremonger and and unpatriotic can go fuck themselves. And I won't say this in real life because I'm scared of Brexiteers and their belieeeeeeeve shite.
Happy now?

@livevomitlaugh

But is there any reason we couldn’t go back to growing a larger quantity of our food in the uk?

Depends what you want to eat. Depends how much land you want to live on vs how much land you can actually farm.

Turnips for tea anyone? It wouldn't be avocados and oranges for sure.

Dreadful, appalling, failure of government. The lying, the gaslighting, the dodgy contracts for dodgy mates, the faux posturing over fucking fish - an industry worth less to the economy than Harrods, selling the UK down the river to deliver a hard brexit to his backers regardless of the impact it will have on the UK. A complete moral failure from a man who doesn’t even believe in what he’s doing. Absolute, catastrophic, failure of leadership. The Gerald Ratner of politics.

Sadly he has an 80 seat majority and another 4 years to use it, handed to him by the British public.

There are plenty in the Tory party who think no deal is a victory.

If EU countries wish to buy our fish then surely they will continue buying it and facilitate it getting to their people?

Or buy it from somewhere else that is now cheaper due to the tariffs and additional export costs.

I’m not very surprised, sadly.

His ex-boss in journalism was quoted as saying he was a liar and a cheat and lazy. His head teacher said the same. And then he has a track record in politics that has shown the same.

But still it makes me feel sick. The government are supposed to represent us and serve us, and a no deal isn’t just a bit bad, it’s truly neglectful and is going to do so many years of damage.

@Eleganz

Sadly he has an 80 seat majority and another 4 years to use it, handed to him by the British public.

There are plenty in the Tory party who think no deal is a victory.

It has generally been an expectation in the past that when leaders fail to achieve the aim they have boasted about for years, they should resign. At least let’s get rid of this crew.

@nicky7654

Very pleased! Boris has grown a pair and not being bullied by the corrupt EU! Fingers crossed for a no deal. We may eventually get back our fishing industry and build up the fishing towns again. And stop the factory ships coming over and destroying the fish stocks!

Who are you planning to sell the fish to?

I fucking well will

Yep

Politicians should be held accountable in law for their actions. If any other public servant lied to the extent where it would have catastrophic effects for most of the population they would face legal charges.

It is nothing short of disgusting. People will die due to the austerity Brexit will bring, people will get poorer and rights will become less.

If IF it is successful, it'll be two generations before anything even looks remotely positive.

Say goodbye to tourism, London is currently the most visited city in Europe. It will soon become unaffordable for tourists and inline with the cost of a break in Scandinavia.

@Calmandmeasured1

The fishermen won't be OK, the majority of fish caught in British waters is sold to the continent. They need a trade deal to stop the fish being held up in customs If EU countries wish to buy our fish then surely they will continue buying it and facilitate it getting to their people?

At the inflated prices and tariffs that the UK will implement?

There will be a surplus of British fish as they will sell less to the EU. British caught fish will become cheaper and imported fish will become dearer.

There is no good that come out of it for the fishermen.

@nicky7654 eat a lot of fish do you??

Ask yourself this - when havent the tories lied to me?

Theyre saying that theyre protecting our fish but what are the chances thats a lie too.

I'm going to say extremely high.

Oh my, what a surprise, whoever could have foreseen this? The time to stop this was at the last election. We didn't, we embraced the oaf and crowned him Emperor. Now its time to suck it up. Thanks tory voters and a brief word of thanks to those who called us fools when we told you this would happen. It was actively sought and obvious.

Why were mymy’s posts all deleted?

I can’t watch the news anymore. Can’t watch Boris shite on about how great it will be to have no deal. Fully expecting him to resign soon because he doesn’t have the capacity to deal with the eventual fallout

@livevomitlaugh

But is there any reason we couldn’t go back to growing a larger quantity of our food in the uk?

Lack of viable land might be one.

There's very little productive rural land that isn't already used for food, either as arable or pasture. I daresay some pasture could be repurposed for arable, and we could all eat less meat, but I doubt if it all could. The nearest farm to me grazes sheep on the top of the downs, where the topsoil is too thin to give a decent yield of crops, and cattle are grazed in the summer months in watermeadows, which are sodden for a good part of the year, with great areas of standing water. You couldn't grow anything much in those, either.

Then there's all the acreage that's been covered in housing estates, because of the completely fucked up housing situation in this country. Imo, they should have a total ban on building on agricultural land until every brownfield site has houses on it.

Maybe parks should be ploughed up and used for crops, like they did in the war.

The shady people who fund the Tories have always wanted no deal. All those hedge funders will make billions out of their disaster capitalism. Tories don't give a stuff about the public - still no doubt those thick Vote Leave people will somehow justify to themselves the job losses, food inflation, shortages, etc. etc.

Will we be living off turnips and fish for the next few years?

It has generally been an expectation in the past that when leaders fail to achieve the aim they have boasted about for years, they should resign.

Yes, but this relies on what he has said in public being his actually true intention rather than a horse and pony show to deliver a no deal brexit for the right of his party with plausible deniability.

Of course, whether Boris resigns or not is immaterial to the future of this country. There is still an 80 seat Tory majority with a vocal and influential right wing. Any new leader will be in the same position as Boris.

Politicians should be held accountable in law for their actions.
I agree. When is Tony Blair going to be held accountable for taking us into a war based on a dodgy dossier?

Ask yourself this - when havent the tories lied to me?
Ask yourself this - is there a politician of any party that doesn't lie, evade questions, produces a manifesto and then deviates from it (I'm talking in normal times - not during major crises), answer with the reply to the question they want to answer (rather than the one asked). I appreciate there are things we cannot be told for reasons of national security but we all deserve more honesty and transparency in politics.

I wish that, when asked a question that requires a 'yes' or 'no' response, the polotician would say 'yes' or 'no' and then add their justification. I want them to stand up and be counted, not hide behind their damn waffle.