Boris Johnson and your disingenuous divs - How dare you try and spin a NoDeal. I dint want to look at your stupid smirking faces anymore. Get off! Snakes of the highest order! Enough!

[alaiaa]

I can’t bear to even look at them anymore, Even Boris can hardly find the words - or hide the shame. He has failed and this will be his legacy. Oven-ready deal indeed. Fools! AIBU?

We may eventually get back our fishing industry and build up the fishing towns again.

Yay! Remind me who we'll be selling the catch to again?

We have a PM who vocally opposed TM’s deal. Only to bring what is essentially the same deal himself - and then be found guilty of unlawful attempts to prorogue Parliament to push it through. Then to sell it as an “oven ready deal” - only to unlawfully try to renege on details of that very same deal at the last minute. Shameful! And the result of the last four years - nothing!

How so?

Quite frankly because most of the country does not have the knowledge and awareness of the exact mechanism of our role within the EU. And I mean the real mechanims, not some Vote Leave poison.

The referendum (advisory, non-binding) was only held because of an internal Tory dispute. The Tories have put party before country from that point on.

You are joking Mymymy, how do we expand manufacturing when the majority of the components required for manufacturing come from the EU?
Who will buy what we manufacture, at vastly inflated prices thanks to the tariffs that will be slapped on top?

we will still be able to sell into the EU even with a no deal but we will have to pay tariffs

That catch is going to do nothing but rot if there's a no deal. If that's not the case I'll be delighed to admit that I'm wrong.

@Mymymysturgeon

Post brexit there is nothing stopping us expanding our fishing and other manufacturing and agricultural industries

Yes, because the sea is a bottomless pit of high value fish that British people want to eat.

Because over fishing hasn't been a problem for years, compounded by black market fish. Plus climate change.

Because we have lots of lovely inshore boats, picturesque harbours. Capable of catching and processing such imaginary fish. Lots of young people queuing up to start work at 4am, do a hard physical job in all sea and weather's. Finishing late. Salt sores and all.

Seriously, I wish people would stop with the romanticized notion of fishing.

boarder

It's spelled border.

And why is the system not in place now?

"over time" - so you are prepared to wait a while for your food. 😂😂😂

individuals should be stockpiling

You think the government making decisions that mean that individuals literally need to stockpile, is even remotely competent or acceptable?

Your standards are lower than mine.

Time will tell soon enough, anyway, how all this plays out. I'll be delighted if you're right.

OMFG Mymymy, supermarkets do not have the capacity to stockpile, and what of fresh food? or do you expect us to live off baked beans and turnips for the foerseeable?

switching to UK suppliers

The UK hasn't been food-self-sufficient for almost 100 years. If supermarkets switched to UK suppliers only, we'd have starvation.

Supermarkets and individuals should be stockpiling and/or switching to UK suppliers

Are Leavers at least slightly able to apologize for calling Remainers names based on saying there would be food shortages and people might need to prep. Because I remember being told I was a nutter for suggesting such things.

We've gone from 'easiest deal in history' to 'stockpile food' and no Leaver appears to want to admit that's an issue.

It's just absolute madness.
Just gave a brief summary of the sad state of affairs here to a friend living in the US and who hadn't followed the Brexit saga. She was appalled (and Lord knows they know what crazy is over there)

@MrsTerryPratchett

Supermarkets and individuals should be stockpiling and/or switching to UK suppliers

Are Leavers at least slightly able to apologize for calling Remainers names based on saying there would be food shortages and people might need to prep. Because I remember being told I was a nutter for suggesting such things.

We've gone from 'easiest deal in history' to 'stockpile food' and no Leaver appears to want to admit that's an issue.

We're still going to be gaslit by leavers and the government for years to come. Spun that it's all great, worth it in the end, sovereignty, control yada yada yada and other meaningless "feelings"

I’ve been called a fascist eco-freak for talking about how Britain cannot feed itself and is already overpopulated. Somehow the interest in food supplies, as raised in the 1970s and early 2000s as I remember, is considered something for nutters, despite it being one of the basic necessities. I think it was actually an extreme leftie in favour of wide open immigration calling me that. Unfortunately without solid supply lines secured by allies, however technological we are, our lack of local production becomes a severe issue.

But mentioning eco-freaks, how have we got to this? news.sky.com/video/boris-johnson-ive-got-nothing-against-eco-freaks-12159380

This is a world leader is it? With deliberate tousled hair and such statesmanlike language? At a major conference on the defining world issue, the survival of people everywhere and perhaps of our current age of civilization at stake?

But is there any reason we couldn’t go back to growing a larger quantity of our food in the uk?

@nicky7654

Very pleased! Boris has grown a pair and not being bullied by the corrupt EU! Fingers crossed for a no deal. We may eventually get back our fishing industry and build up the fishing towns again. And stop the factory ships coming over and destroying the fish stocks!

Do you actually live in a fishing town? I do. They've been in decline my whole life and nobody ever steps in to help. The government abandoned them years ago and I don't believe they suddenly give a shit now. Whatever they're doing this for, it's got bugger all to do with fishing towns.

It’s late and my bedtime. But briefly livevomitlaugh, it’s a question of what the country can physically grow in the space we have with the climate we have being inadequate to feed the sheer number of people we have here. They know this.