To find drag queens offensive?

[MrsMummy500]

AIBU to find drag queens really bloody offensive?

I hate the term offensive, it’s bandied around far too often at far too insignificant things (am aware this may be one of them). BUT, men dressing up as some fetishised version of a man made ideal of a woman really pisses me off. Hyper hair, max make up, drink in hand, revealing clothes.

I do not know a single woman like that. It riles me and I feel like I’m unable to express it as women have lost so much of their space to LGBTQ+ community (I perceive this, I don’t say it as a fact).
potential bomb drop alert but if white people are taken down (rightly IMO) for ‘blacking up’ should it be acceptable for men to parody women in the form of drag queens.

Ps- I do not buy for one minute that they are celebrating the female form with balloon breasts. It feels more like a piss take.

Snore. No I don't find it offensive.

I don’t find them remotely offensive. I kind of think those of you that do are missing the point. As for this ‘woman face’ rubbish well my face certainly doesn’t look like that!

@Rhine what point would that be?

I wholeheartedly agree OP, I find it offensive (it's not very funny at all, I just find it misogynistic, portraying the most negative caricatures of what women are supposedly like / men's idealised version - hyper sexualised, slutty, bitchy etc) and I simply don't understand why rational people who would rightly so find blackface offensive and racist, don't equally condemn drag for being misogynistic.

Yes I always have found it distasteful and intimidating appropriation. It definately feels like a piss take.

I don't find it offensive in particular. I find it weird and unfunny. I don't get how things like Ru Paul are so popular, but to each their own I guess.

Trans women are women. They are not men in drag or cross dressers. They are women.

They think they are women, and that is a difference between them and men in drag. Of course. But just as obviously, men who think they are women are not.

You're free to find it offensive - as you are with anything really - but I don't find it offensive personally, no. I've been to a few drag shows and always watch Drag Race.

Not offensive just dated

[quote BrumBoo]@Rhine what point would that be?[/quote]
That it’s just a bit of fun? Not meant to be taken too seriously? Have yo7 ever watched Drag Race? They all idolise women. I’ve never seen anything even close to misogyny on there.

Im not offended by them. I choose not to look for offensive everywhere. Having said that as someone with quiet strong feminist views in my own way I have too thought that drag is womanface and that if blackface is offensive then so too should this be.
Admittedly though i am of the probably unpopular and possibly offensive opinion that the argument against blackface has gone a step too far. Maybe it is my own sheltered existence and ignorence but i really cant see how it is so offensive if i want to go on Stars in Their Eyes as Tina Turner, Whitney Houston or Beyonce. Well my singing might well be offensive to many 😂
Having grown up in an almost exclusively white area I once played a black character in a school play. I was chosen for the role partly as im sallow skinned with dark hair and it was easier to make me black, (for desperate need of a better expression) than the fairer girls. (Low budget, no wigs etc) we certainly meant no offence, the school, town even, simply had no black teenage girls

I agree. Parody of females. Don't like it.

It's by men and for men. Nothing to do with women and what we think, don't imagine we are a priority.

It really ticks me off how ubiquitous it is across the media, and lauded as 'fun' and 'witty'. It isn't. I also don't like the trend for drag queens on social media offering makeup tips to girls and young women, like us females aren't 'womanning' properly. It's patronising and rude, and I dislike their aggressively sexual personae being touted as faaaabulous, darling, even on mainstream television.

It's very offensive. And another sad reminder that most people are ok with things that are harm women.

Bloody hell. Never even thought of it like this until I read your OP and the following comments. You are 100% correct!

@BitOfFun

It really ticks me off how ubiquitous it is across the media, and lauded as 'fun' and 'witty'. It isn't. I also don't like the trend for drag queens on social media offering makeup tips to girls and young women, like us females aren't 'womanning' properly. It's patronising and rude, and I dislike their aggressively sexual personae being touted as faaaabulous, darling, even on mainstream television.

Why shouldn’t they give make up tips to women and girls? Make up isn’t only for women. Men have been wearing it for centuries as well 🙄

Outdated and misogynistic.

It's very revealing that every other group in society gets the right to be offended and demand that others are silenced for their research, views, opinions and the rest. But when women have the temerity to point out openly disrespectful & misogynistic behaviour seen in drag queens (let alone the abhorrence that is drag queen story time) we are gaslit, patronised and told that our views are wrong.

I never used to have a problem with it but yes, now i examine it, why are our oppressors allowed to parody us when 'blacking up' is so taboo?

On the basis that they have transitioned from male to female. I'm not here for anti-trans bullshit.

How does one transition 'from male to female'? How does that happen? Why is it 'bullshit' to ask this?

I do agree that drag queens and transwomen are not the same though.

I also don't like the trend for drag queens on social media offering makeup tips to girls and young women, like us females aren't 'womanning' properly. It's patronising and rude

Agree with that. And lots of policing of how women look - criticism if we 'let ourselves go' or 'don't make an effort'.

Fuck that: there is all the difference in the world between dressing up in drag for fun - and being able to revert to all the privileges of being male whenever you want - and being a woman, with society constantly scrutinising our appearance. I don't need some bloke who enjoys wearing heels and false eyelashes for a few hours a week, telling me how to dress.

Why shouldn’t they give make up tips to women and girls? Make up isn’t only for women. Men have been wearing it for centuries as well

Because they're not telling other men what to do - they are bossing women around.

@Possums4evr

It's by men and for men. Nothing to do with women and what we think, don't imagine we are a priority.

Yes this. nothing to do with women, how we feel about it, or what we think of it. We exist solely to be parodied and that's it.

I'm not impressed or amused by it. I wouldn't even bother thinking about it if it weren't being forced on us so much, these days, but it is, and I'm fed up with the insinuation that if you don't like it (or even celebrate and embrace it), you're intolerant and narrowminded.

I don't believe it should be normalised, which I assume is the point of having drag queens read to children in libraries.