To find drag queens offensive?

[MrsMummy500]

AIBU to find drag queens really bloody offensive?

I hate the term offensive, it’s bandied around far too often at far too insignificant things (am aware this may be one of them). BUT, men dressing up as some fetishised version of a man made ideal of a woman really pisses me off. Hyper hair, max make up, drink in hand, revealing clothes.

I do not know a single woman like that. It riles me and I feel like I’m unable to express it as women have lost so much of their space to LGBTQ+ community (I perceive this, I don’t say it as a fact).
potential bomb drop alert but if white people are taken down (rightly IMO) for ‘blacking up’ should it be acceptable for men to parody women in the form of drag queens.

Ps- I do not buy for one minute that they are celebrating the female form with balloon breasts. It feels more like a piss take.

I think I saw an article about the tv drag show - theres now a competitor who was born female, now has male presentation (so breasts removed, don’t know about what else), dressing in drag.

It sounds like people aren’t quite sure how to react to this (I did read a hooha about women dressing in drag) - but it’s weird to see the photo with them basically topless with nipple covers... I assume they will get more of a kicking than the male competitors.

Never been a fan - always thought it took the piss out of women, reduces us to shitty/bitchy/slutty caricatures. And I never likes pan to either (before anyone asks). And principle boy is just bonkers...

They're not dressing up as women, they are dressing up as drag queens.

Which are... male?

This is Leigh Bowery, passed away now but this was the sort of drag he did, he's not remotely parodying women or mocking them, he's trying to look different, not like a woman.

I'm hard to offend. So, no, I don't find it offensive.

I don't mind them to be honest. Some are funny, some are not.

I loved Lily Savage, but as a rule I don't like them.

Drag queens ARE trans now

Deary me. I know one gay man who dresses up as a drag compare who would not be happy with that.

Maybe when the men folk start objecting some one might take notice ...🙄

I’ve never seen drag queens as trying to ape women. They’re so far off the Mark of a real woman, that they’re their own genre. Some people find that genre entertaining. I never have, but to each their own.

So, in short, given I don’t see them as anything like women I don’t feel bothered by them.

As you say, @MrsMummy500 no woman in real life dresses or acts like that, OR puts the same daft, outlandish make up on, OR has the same weird, daft hair..

Have to say, i find current make up trends quite drag queen-ish. The enormous eyelashes, heavy eye make up, all the contouring, and of course the thing where you paint outside your lipline by quite a margin to give yourself a big pout.

It can be a real art form and done well

@WhoseThatGirl

An art form representing what, precisely?

They just seem like panto dames to me. I can't really take them seriously and they certainly don't offend me.

I'm so glad to read this thread and find I am not the only one to dislike drag. It's always made me feel really uncomfortable but I've never met anyone else who felt the same.

Intersex people are not trans. How offensive.

Yup, it’s ‘womanface’. I don’t have to be fine with someone dressing up as a misogynistic caricature of women, any more than BAME people have to be thrilled with the Black and White Minstrels.

This has been done before. In principle I agree with you but in reality I don’t gaf.

YANBU. I don't like them at all. I'm uncomfortable with them. It feels like a piss-take of women.

I find it grotesque - it is the sex version of blackface and I wont watch it and don't want to see it.

Just sitting down to watch Strictly. At some point they'll be what I assume is a BBC3 day queen or 2 featured and I'll turn over whilst that's on.

YANBU women are the oppressed sex and by dressing up as hideous caricatures of women drag queens are punching down, which, if we are all going to be forced to be woke and right on, isn't acceptable in today's world.

Yanbu but more so they always looks frightening and unreal.

@WhoseThatGirl

Intersex people are not trans. How offensive.

Just noticed that on the poster. Disgusting, they really are determined to shove intersex people into their gender belief system regardless of how genuinely offensive that is.

I've been to several drag shows. This was years ago. There were lots of references to fish, female genitalia, smelly fannies. I didn't like it then and I like it less now as its becoming more mainstream

I do not know a single woman like that.

The entire point is that they are not women. It's like pantomime dames. The joke is that the only person on stage being loud, gaudy and overtly, comically sexual, not only isn't a woman, but isn't even trying to pass for one. It's effectively saying that no actual woman looks or acts like this; the only person who could do this awful, comical version of femininity is someone who isn't a woman.

I think they can be bloody terrifying! And, perhaps paradoxically, i find their acts booorring

I love ru Paul’s drag race. I’ve never seen it as it taking the piss out of woman though. I’m more fascinated with their talent e.g. art form of makeup. Like people have said on here a lot of it is conceptual and isn’t female looking. X