EU blackmailing the UK

[houseinthesnow]

So it comes to pass. The EU have decided unless we agree to their unreasonable demands they will halt all travel, including air and road travel whilst still fishing in our waters apparently!

It is nothing short of piracy.

The true nature of the EU has been exposed for some time, hence our departure - but now no one can be any doubt just to the levels they will sink to.
The EU have no interest in trade relations, nor cooperation, they only seek control and power. The trading relations is and was always, window dressing to create a superstate - and it seems they are now not afraid to inflict as much damage as possible to stop a member leaving.
Even the most passionate remainer will now see how deeply disturbing this behaviour actually is.

One could argue it is an act of war in fact.

It should be treated as such.

I will happily eat beans to the end of my days than be blackmailed by the EU. We all knew it would get nasty at the end, but who they knew they were capable of this. I suppose we can't be that surprised given the past. The gloves are off now for sure - and that goes both ways we should remind them.

Hard hats on.

Loopyloui Fri 11-Dec-20 06:04:13

A lot of ppl
Who voted leave would vote remain this is worry what is happening don't think ppl understood how bad it would be

And those of us who understood were laughed at and our concerns dismissed as Project Fear.

Turns out we were right but the idiots who refused to listed are still trying to blame us.

What a blatantly ridiculous and imperious post.

“Some of us don’t want to come to your party. Self serving politicians have said you are smelly and bossy. We don’t need Camembert anyway”.
“OK, that’s a pity but if you believe Farage’s lies and don’t mind paying more per household, let’s say goodbye. IF your really sure.”

“Failures of supply chains, loss of major industry, lack of free movement, huge costs to individual households.....Oh yes, were sure. We want sovereignty.”

But we are all sovereign nations. You never lost sovereignty.”

“Yes but all them immigrants coming by boat to steal jobs we don’t want. People in headscarves scare me.”

“OK. Leave”

“But can we still come on holiday, have same tariffs and can people still work in your countries?
“Well we’ll try to sort something out.”

“Oh but it doesn’t include the fish.”
“Les poisson? “
“Speak in English please. We don’t like forrrin talking. Yes fish. We had a quota which we sold to certain countries. We want them back.”
“No. You sold them.”
“OK we won’t come to your party. “

“It’s a big party, biggest in world. Amazing opportunities. Much cheaper than small island costs.Lots of you wanted to come......”

“No. You want my friends to pay fair taxes. We’ll talk about Australia and Canada. We’ll blame you. My friends will be alright. I’ve given them lots of work. The plebs will be so poor they’ll happily eat turnips. It solves immigration too. We’ll change the international laws. Nobody will fancy moving here. It will be fine. They’ll be ordinary people in their castles and a peasant class.”

RandomLondoner "WTO terms aren't the end of the world."

Remind me when the WTO elections are, again?....

Eat your beans and holiday at Butlins.

Lmao okay OP

All the Captain Hindsights should think about how many trillion pound aggregate value over time deals they've personally negotiated. And no clever Johnny mathematicians aggregating an infinite series. If you were so clever, you'd have been invited to join the negotiations by Dominic or to supply COVID test equipment from your pub.

I don't know why your surprised the UK haven't been playing ball either. Like Trump after Obama the brexit campaign ran on the back of racism.
It unleashed the bigots.

If you were so clever, you'd have been invited to join the negotiations by Dominic or to supply COVID test equipment from your pub

They don't like clever people, or experts. As you say yourself, they give huge medical supply contracts to the fella they know from the local pub. So as you know, we would not have been invited.
Is it a brexit thing to always says things you absolutely know not tobe true?

Ahhh, but you all knew what you voted for didn’t you?

Easiest deal in history and all that.

Enjoy your beans.

Emeraldshamrock

So you think all Leavers are Bigots

Is that you Gordon?

One advantage of being sovereign is that the UK can become ever more a beacon of corruption-free, wealthy freedom with fish. It won't be beans, OP, but the life of Riley.

I not going to stop drinking Pinot Grigio if it’s a £1 more expensive to cover a tariff.

Tariff will be about 8p or 9p a bottle for still wine and about 22p on fizz. Compared to UK duty it’s peanuts.

@goldenharvest

I heard that it's more important to the EU that the UK gets a bad deal than the EU gets a good deal.

They would rather lose trade than lose face

So be it

Did ye, aye?

@MrsMiaWallis

So yes, we could make widgets under slave labour conditions while polluting the environment with the effluent from our factories and sell said widgets into whichever market would accept that - but we could not sell into the EU. The worrying thing is that there are those who would consider poor labour conditions and widespread pollution as entirely reasonable in the interests of turning a large profit, and it is their interests which drove Brexit

It's actually quite offensive that you think UK manufacturers would do this.

Really? Don’t delude yourself. It happens.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8515669/Illegal-work-Leicester-sweatshops-allowed-flourish-fear-racism-claims.html

www.independent.co.uk/environment/england-rivers-pollution-chemicals-environment-agency-b468765.html

@Miljea,

EU rules = loss of sovereignty.

WTO rules = perfectly reasonable (for now, view might change if spiteful EU start applying those tariffs).

@MrsMiaWallis

So yes, we could make widgets under slave labour conditions while polluting the environment with the effluent from our factories and sell said widgets into whichever market would accept that - but we could not sell into the EU. The worrying thing is that there are those who would consider poor labour conditions and widespread pollution as entirely reasonable in the interests of turning a large profit, and it is their interests which drove Brexit

It's actually quite offensive that you think UK manufacturers would do this.

Oh, hahahahahahaha.

"Offensive"??

You have seen nothing yet.

You forget that it was unfettered greed, cronyism, rule-of-the-posh boys that brought us to a position where zero-hour contracts, more or less unregulated multiple occupancy renters, below-NMW jobs, the blind eye turned by our politicians to sending non-productive EU citizens home, austerity to pay for the rich boys' house-of-financial-cards collapse - lead to a discontent (that our shit education system, in failing to teach critical thinking skills- could not counter) that allowed the Red Top barons to fool folks into thinking it was the nasty EU wot dunnit.

The blame lies with our successive right wing governments. Not the EU.

And if you think those Tory voting business owners will do anything other than maximise their profits, once freed EU regulations regarding workers T&Cs, you're even more naive that I think.

i agree. we want to leave and of course they are making it difficult. why should they still fish in our oceans yet restrict our travel. they are trying to have their cake and eat it. if they want to play hard ball fine. they should be cut off from our oceans as well then. CANZUK all the way.

The UK won't be short of friends. It will be the cool kid at the party, not the self-conscious teenager sat on the stairs.

USA, China and others will be fighting to send their friend requests. I bet Boris has already had an invite to tour some of the regional parts of China for photo opportunities.

Why all this talk about Butlin's and eating beans? People don't have to holiday in Europe - I rarely do, preferring the USA, Dubai and the Caribbean. Seriously, which foods do you think you are going to be denied once we are out? Do you think the French won't send their cheeses or wines to us, knowing we are one of their best markets, ditto Italy and Germany.

[quote Zilla1]@Miljea,

EU rules = loss of sovereignty.

WTO rules = perfectly reasonable (for now, view might change if spiteful EU start applying those tariffs).[/quote]
Do you know anything about WTO tariffs?

Just y'know asking.

Cos this should be quite a funny answer.

@MagicSummer, yes and don't forget Ascenscion, St Helena, the Falklands. Some nay sayers might bleat they're not on our doorstep but I'd expect Ryan Air will ramp up flights once theres the demand.

LOL. Hilarious. I'm assuming you're a troll. Nobody is this stupid, surely?

@houseinthesnow

Chair of Vote Leave, Gisela Stuart, on @SkyNews: "No Deal is not a preferred option for either side, but the solution is now a political one... We probably need to accept that their commitment to how they define the Single Market is even more fundamental than we had appreciated."

So if the chair of Vote Leave actually says that there is a good reason for the EU to stick to its guns, does it mean it’s the UK and BJ who miscalculated? And actually didn’t have a clue what being in the EU meant?
I meant it’s a well known and brexiter talking here.

the world is bigger than the EU there are other countries out there

@RedToothBrush, always willing to learn though it's GATT to be fine, Boris and Gove talk highly of it.