To hope these parents are ashamed of their boys tonight?

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Today my Y9 ds was taunted by boys making the Nazi salute at him. This, after a couple of weeks of 'Dirty Jew'.

If these are your sons, is this what you want for them? Is this the attitude you would like them to have to their fellow human beings? Do you feel proud of them? Would you like them to be treated this way? What are you saying to them tonight? What do you think the Head of Year should say to them tomorrow?

What do you think your sons should do next?

Or maybe - meh, it's just bantz, boys will be boys.

Op, how can you hope the parents will be ashamed? Where else would children have picked up such abhorrent ideas?
I so sorry this has happened to you but prepare to be disappointed by the parents.

The criminal age of responsibility in the UK is 10 years old and at 14/15 those boys should expect a talking to by the police. I sincerely hope they get one too.

Your poor son. He should not have to deal with criminal behaviour at school at any age.

I feel so badly for your son. FWIW I was called names because of my nationality by 15 yr old girls that I taught for the first time this week.
Several members of the management in my school spoke to me to see if I was ok and offered to report to the police. I felt totally supported and valued, your son deserves nothing less.
I would ensure your son is being treated the same way. These bullies need to learn what’s right. Society in this country is going to totally disintegrate if they win. There’s too much ‘anything goes’ syndrome these days!

Vile! If it were my DS I'd be the one calling the police!! My DS was in trouble for picking on a boy with glasses aged 6! We spent the next 2/3 days calling him not by his name but "bully" and we made sure he understood what the consequences of bullying could be he will never be mean to anyone again!

I'm so sorry OP, to you and DS

This is absolutely appalling and really should be reported.

I’m going through similar but my son doesn’t want me to report, words he’s been called a “retard” “weird” “gay” pushed about, his belongings pinched. Y9 here too.

We have talked to pastoral care and they are helping but Ds is adamant he doesn’t want to take it further, tells me he ignores and can deal with it.

He is struggling though.

It’s a catch 22 in our case. I’m hoping ignoring will diffuse the situation.

Yeah dont buy the "if you ignore it/avoid them/walk away it'll get better" bollocks - that attitude belongs in the 70s. It's bullying, it's a crime, the answer is to bring it out into the open and insist the authorities (school or otherwise) deal with it.

Maybe they don't care about the police or is they get expelled???

I know I am the only one who went against the grain here.

I am not trying to upset anyone. I wasn't even sure if this post was real and or someone just trying to drum up MN indignation?

It's because I have dealings with special needs support groups and many of the young SN people get bullied at school. Their advice from years of experience is to ignore as long as possible and only report when it gets physical. Otherwise it gets worse. Every single time.

Fine, nobody believe me. See how much the police protect you, eh? Which usually isn't much from what I have seen.

This is absolutely horrific and unacceptable.
Please, please report this to the school and to the police.
If my son did something like this, I'd be deeply, deeply ashamed and sorry that I hadn't educated him enough about the Holocaust/Judaism/to not go along with others if they are behaving badly.

This is a serious racial slur. Definitely report. Y9 is the worst. And these sound worst of the worst.

Police. Definitely. For your son's sake and for theirs...they need to learn

@rabbitheadlights

Vile! If it were my DS I'd be the one calling the police!! My DS was in trouble for picking on a boy with glasses aged 6! We spent the next 2/3 days calling him not by his name but "bully" and we made sure he understood what the consequences of bullying could be he will never be mean to anyone again!

I'm so sorry OP, to you and DS

Bit harsh! Obviously your ds behaviour was totally wrong and he needed to understand that but calling him bully for a couple of days when he was 6 is a bit grim!

Disgusting.

OP in your position I would make a phone call to the police.

I'm so sorry this happened OP. It must be stamped out and on immediately. I would weep with shame if this was my son.

Absolutely disgraceful.

It really does feel like this country has taken an enormous step backwards the last few years.

Did this happen after school/in school uniform? If so, if your son can identify the school the kids go to (or if, even worse, they are from his school) make sure to speak to the Head - legally schools maintain responsibility for children on their way home as long as they are in uniform. A good school would take this very seriously.

Bless your poor boy. I hope you're showering him with love tonight.x.

OP I would suggest not leaving it up to the school to decide wheter to call the police.
Schools generally want to minimise such actions to avoid publicity and "keep the peace" finding the path of least resistance to protect the school, even the bullies.

I would pick up the phone tonight and report a hate crime.

Schools generally want to minimise such actions to avoid publicity and "keep the peace" finding the path of least resistance to protect the school, even the bullies.

Seconded. You need to force their hand and make them deal with it properly.

If your son starts reporting to the teachers the taunting will get worse.

Bollocks to that. What steps have you taken OP?
tbh I'd be going straight to the police.

Beyond dreadful. I'm so sorry.

Where do kids get this vileness from?

@banditoshipman

Bit harsh! Obviously your ds behaviour was totally wrong and he needed to understand that but calling him bully for a couple of days when he was 6 is a bit grim!

NO not really an that attitude is why these things happen, my DD ended up self harming because of relentless vile bullies like these. That's grim!

If either of my son's did this I think I would have failed as a parent to be honest.
I understand that some kids get in the wrong crowd but I gave them strategies how to get away rom situations without losing face. Therefore if they stayed at did something like this they are complicit. I would be ashamed.
I am saddened that your son has gone through this.
In your shoes I would report to the police because I would want it recorded and counted as a gate crime.
I honestly believe that every incidence of hate crime should be reported so there is an accurate picture of what is happening in our country.
We need to know the full extent if it, who is doing it, where it's happening etc. Even low level crimes need reporting, because like DV, it will keep repeating and escalating if there are no consequences.

You need to report it as a hate crime that’s awful.

As a serving police officer ( and one who does plenty of protecting , thanks very much ) - I’d definitely report it . As you say , your boy has ignored it for some weeks and what has happened ? They’ve ramped it up to get a reaction. My son got treated in the same way with homophobic abuse and he tried to ignore it. It affected him deeply , and he started changing from a happy confident outgoing lad , to one who started making excuses not to go out , who stayed at home and became quiet and withdrawn , until I found out about it and went nuclear . The school HoY started off by coming out with mealy mouthed excuses . So I cut him short and went to the police and reported it. And casually dropped various phrases from the hate crime Home office counting standards in to them so they were left with no doubt they were going to report it. The two individuals were arrested for harassment and suddenly it focussed the school’s attention , because it got reported in the press . They don’t go there anymore .

If you do nothing , they get to carry on this disgusting behaviour with impunity . They need to learn , and it’s obvious that it’s not going to be from home , that this shit is into,enable, no ifs no buts .

WTF??? I actually can't get my head around 1. Why these little toads would say such horrible things and 2. Where the bloody hell did they learn this shit?!

I hope they get a severe punishing for this from the school and the police. What a disgrace.

Report it to the police, the headteacher and to the CST. My boys were anti-semitically attacked a few years ago by students from another local school and the police took it very seriously.

I hope the school come down heavy on them and even the police. However it’s only ever on MN and articles about Labour that I hear of antisemitism. In real life I’ve never ever come across it.