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To want to know a benefit of brexit?

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Dishwashersaurous · 10/12/2020 10:53

I know that brexit has been done to death. But as we crash into a no deal and inevitable queues at the border my children are asking what is the benefit of brexit.

Could someone please tell me a tangible benefit that I can tell them- as I am struggling to think of anything

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ILoveAllRainbowsx · 10/12/2020 14:40

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DioneTheDiabolist · 10/12/2020 14:42

Terrorists and organised crime gangs here in NI are rubbing their hands in glee at Brexit. I don't suppose you're one of them OP?

bellinisurge · 10/12/2020 14:44

@GroundAlmonds , I tried civil and open minded on here and got called all sorts of nasty shit.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 10/12/2020 14:46

@SchrodingersImmigrant it's called White Privilege

Yeah. That's not data.

DuncinToffee · 10/12/2020 14:50

CheesePleaseLouees

Fast vaccine approval. You wanted one.

Yep as a remainer I agree with this statement. We do seem to have got a vaccine /vaccines in circulation remarkably quickly!

It does seem to be the (sole) benefit to Brexit...

Nothing to do with Brexit, that was a lie even Johnson couldn't spout.
fullfact.org/health/coronavirus-vaccine-brexit/

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 10/12/2020 14:51

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Chloemol · 10/12/2020 14:51

Go back and read the brexit threads

ILoveAllRainbowsx · 10/12/2020 14:52

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ILoveAllRainbowsx · 10/12/2020 14:54

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nosswith · 10/12/2020 14:55

It makes the case for Scottish independence stronger.

GroundAlmonds · 10/12/2020 14:55

[quote bellinisurge]@GroundAlmonds , I tried civil and open minded on here and got called all sorts of nasty shit. [/quote]
Yes it’s awful. Sad

bellinisurge · 10/12/2020 14:56

Hilarious that the same people who didn't condemn nasty letters to Polish children calling them vermin are faking concern about BAME children experiencing discrimination.

MaxNormal · 10/12/2020 14:59

The only upside I can think of is getting to say "I told you so" a lot in January when it all goes tits up.

Songsofexperience · 10/12/2020 15:00

And apparently now No 10 won't even accept the EUs suggested contingency plans (which I thought had been agreed anyway) to smooth over disruptions in the next 6 months! What's their fucking rush to get out in the most disruptive and destructive way? This country is already exhausted by the pandemic!

toconclude · 10/12/2020 15:03

Good luck...

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contrmary · 10/12/2020 15:06

There are lots of benefits to Brexit.

The main one is that it shows the political system actually works for the people, it carries out their will rather than just tell them what they should think. The people of the UK voted in favour of it, and it is being carried out. That's what democracy is, the will of the majority. The losers can be pissed off and vote to change things when they next get the chance, but that's democracy - you don't always get the outcome you want, but next time you might. Democracy isn't perfect, but it's better than the other systems of government that have been tried from time to time (think that was Churchill rather than me).

Britain has had two opportunities to "correct" the Leave vote, but the people chose not to do so. At either general election Remainers could have got behind a pro-Remain party, got into power, and cancelled Brexit altogether. Ironically they could have done this with a much smaller share of the vote than in the referendum, certainly a majority wasn't needed. But, they were too disorganised - or not interested enough - to do this.

Other obvious benefits are the end to free movement and the return of duty free shopping. Free movement is great in theory, but in practice only works if roughly similar numbers of people enter a country as leave it. The return of duty free means people can buy a reasonable quantity of cheap booze, like a bottle of spirits, rather than the idiotic "booze cruise" to Calais to stock up on supermarket plonk for your mates.

Sure, prices are likely to rise in the short term. But that's only because the EU is insisting on it. The UK would do a free trade deal, no problem, but the EU wants to tack on other things, to bully the UK into submission.

And that is the best thing about leaving the EU - why remain in a club whose members treat us like that?

DioneTheDiabolist · 10/12/2020 15:12

So, less freedom and less booze @contrmary. Sounds class.😂😂😂

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 10/12/2020 15:15

I will be able to pull my smug face when it’s a disaster...

baroqueandblue · 10/12/2020 15:16

Honestly? Just then because I thought it was going to be something funny. A joke against the moaning genre.

And at that point you were free to walk away, but instead you forgot your questionable sense of humour and just decided to have a go instead. Now who's being goady? Hmm

Interesting that you think no deal Brexit is an occasion for jokes and laughter, by the way.

GhoulWithADragonTattoo · 10/12/2020 15:17

Obviously I still have to live here so might not be that smug...

TheSandman · 10/12/2020 15:20

And that is the best thing about leaving the EU - why remain in a club whose members treat us like that?

But they wouldn't 'treat us like that' if we were still members. We left the club. We're no longer members so why should we expect any special treatment above that of any other country or group? Why should they give 'us' any special treatment? I'm sure when we were in the club we were just concerned about the club's interests above that of whichever outside group/nation we were negotiating with.

They're not ''bullying us' they're being cold, hard, rational and delivering what best for THEIR members. Fuck everyone else.

We're in the 'everyone else' group. We don't get special 'be nice to us because we're British' privileges any more than Mexico gets 'Be nice to us we're Mexican' privileges. Realpolitik. Get used to it.

peppita · 10/12/2020 15:21

Potential reunification of Ireland is the only positive I can think of.

HerFlowersToLove · 10/12/2020 15:23

[quote bellinisurge]@HerFlowersToLove , thing is , they've just cancelled the rules around lorry drivers working hours. Interesting that you think this government can be trusted to make working hours shorter. [/quote]
Firstly, that's a temporary measure. Secondly I made no comment about trusting the government to make working hours shorter Confused I have no idea what you are on about.

I commented on the difficulties relating to implementing WTR for doctors, which brought a fundamental change to the way Doctors work and the way patient care is delivered. Don't put words in my mouth

UrAWizHarry · 10/12/2020 15:24

"And that is the best thing about leaving the EU - why remain in a club whose members treat us like that?"

The EU is looking after it's own interests, as they should. Why should they bend over backwards for a country throwing it's toys out of the pram? We were never going to get the type of deal the lying fuckers in the leave camp said we would because we hold exactly 0 cards with which to bargain with. The UK was always going to come out of this worse off.