To wonder how Kate Hudson sleeps at night (Fabletics)?

[evenmoreforthemoor]

Yet another friend duped by Fabletics and their offers.

It relies on busy people, usually without much cash thinking that their offer is too good to be true before they find out a few weeks later that another £44 has gone out of their account and that they actually signed up to a subscription for leggings.

It's just such a seedy way for someone who is already well off, who lives a pious yoga/spiritual life splashed all over Instagram, to make more money.

@SchrodingersImmigrant

He put some in his basket (because I asked him to pretend he was going to buy some) but didn’t actually try to buy them - so I can’t say whether he would have realised before parting with cash. But looking at your screenshots I notice the fact that the VIP membership costs £49 is in tiny print every time. That’s not an accident. And it’s likely that someone who is reading main details because they struggle will miss it.

In a twist to the tale, it turns out he already KNEW that fabletics had a subscription service and STILL didn’t pick up that by taking the £24 a pair deal you’re joining it.

How is this different from services like Beauty pie though? for beauty pie, you get charged £5-£20 per month depending on how much allowance you want, even if you don't buy anything. You get the chance to buy beauty products at the discounted rate, and if you don't buy anything that month, your monthly allowance rolls onto the next month and you accumulate any unused allowance. I love beauty pie, all my makeup is beauty pie and I worked out that even if you add up the subscription charge, the shipping and the price of the products itself, its still cheaper than buying all my makeup from department stores. its marginally more expensive than buying makeup from superdrug but imho i can't really tell the difference between department store makeup and beauty pie.

I guess where Fabletics is iffy is that you have to remember to input that you wish to skip the month on months you don't want leggings. As for who would want leggings every month, i guess some peope would also say I am being unreasonable to need new makeup every month, but I do buy makeup/skincare almost every month.

@tricky29

I’ve just realised I’ve been paying £6.99 a month for an Xbox subscription I could get for £49.99 annually. Annoying yes but completely down to me. Cancelled the monthly and bough the annual subscription.

Likewise, went through the Fablectics page and decided to cancel when I saw it was a monthly subscription. Buyer beware in both cases.

Disney+ is cheaper if you buy yearly too

MLM's are technically legal but they sure are not ethical, while this isn't on the same level it has a very similar feel for all the reasons I've already gone into detail about. The same reasons that make them stand out from the other subscription services. I certainly do not think its an ethical company.

It's nothing at all like an MLM.

You can argue both are unethical, but they're hardly the same thing. With Fabletics you don't lose your money. You pay your subscription fee and can spend the money on Fabletics products whenever you choose to do so. You can skip months or cancel your subscription altogether if you don't want to use it anymore.

With MLM's you have to spend a certain amount of money to buy products to sell on to others. You don't get your money back if you don't sell them, and you're encouraged to spend even more money (buying more products) to make money.

Fabletics does none of that. It's just a legging subscription service that's very open about what it is. The same as Prime, Hello Fresh, gyms and every single other subscription service in existence.

I find it more depressing that a company would encourage you to own that many pairs of leggings. As if there isn’t enough waste in the world

@hopingforonlychild

How is this different from services like Beauty pie though? for beauty pie, you get charged £5-£20 per month depending on how much allowance you want, even if you don't buy anything. You get the chance to buy beauty products at the discounted rate, and if you don't buy anything that month, your monthly allowance rolls onto the next month and you accumulate any unused allowance. I love beauty pie, all my makeup is beauty pie and I worked out that even if you add up the subscription charge, the shipping and the price of the products itself, its still cheaper than buying all my makeup from department stores. its marginally more expensive than buying makeup from superdrug but imho i can't really tell the difference between department store makeup and beauty pie.

I guess where Fabletics is iffy is that you have to remember to input that you wish to skip the month on months you don't want leggings. As for who would want leggings every month, i guess some peope would also say I am being unreasonable to need new makeup every month, but I do buy makeup/skincare almost every month.

The difference is that with Beauty Pie what you see is what you get. You 'Opt in' to a simple membership.

Flabletics use an initial reduction to entice buyers in and then when you go for this offer, then require you to 'opt out' of their VIP club rather than choose to 'opt in'.

Some people think this is very obvious, others (some on this post, some on Trip Advisor and many, many others on various forums) find it far less obvious (for whatever reason).

@Mrbob

I find it more depressing that a company would encourage you to own that many pairs of leggings. As if there isn’t enough waste in the world

I totally agree, it really feeds that capitalism driven need to consume.

Trip Advisor?!

Sorry, getting late and my eyes are going crossed!

Trust Pilot.

I love the leggings but wouldn’t want ‘outfits’. I would spend far more if they ditched the subscription idea and just sold stuff at fair prices. As is I just go and buy on eBay

Kate hudson is not responsible for your friends not reading things properly ...

@SchrodingersImmigrant

Interestingly, not one of the screenshots you’ve posted use the word ‘subscription’ (unless I’ve missed it). They mention the monthly charge and refer to ‘membership‘ but avoid the word ‘subscription’. Same with a ‘4 step’ screenshot someone posted on the first page - explains the system but steers well clear of the word ‘subscription’.

@Mrbob

I find it more depressing that a company would encourage you to own that many pairs of leggings. As if there isn’t enough waste in the world

Businesses are about making money. They're hardly going to encourage you to never buy their products, are they?

[quote Buddytheelf85]@SchrodingersImmigrant

Interestingly, not one of the screenshots you’ve posted use the word ‘subscription’ (unless I’ve missed it). They mention the monthly charge and refer to ‘membership‘ but avoid the word ‘subscription’. Same with a ‘4 step’ screenshot someone posted on the first page - explains the system but steers well clear of the word ‘subscription’.[/quote]
That's just splitting hairs. The meaning is clear.

@lunar1

I had them for a while and it was easy to skip, the leggings are good quality and I had a few freebies.

Where they fall down is that your 'credit' from the subscription isn't useable on any sale items. It is also a nightmare to cancel, it's a phone call and they have you waiting a really long time with no indication of how long you will be queuing.

Their tactics are underhanded, if it was an honest company you could cancel within a few clicks and the money you pay every month would be redeemable on any of their products.

See, this I do think is underhanded. I would assume the £44 would be redeemable on any products.

I am 50/50 on the subscription thing, but I do think it is different to Netflix, or even beauty box type things- because those are consumables/entertainment, so it's likely you will want more regularly.

I think a lot of clothing subscription type services make money out of people forgetting to send the clothes back or forgetting to spend the credit etc, and that does feel unethical to me. Yes, there is an element of personal responsibility, but equally, people have busy lives and it is probably common for people to forget once in a while- and I'm not convinced it is reasonable to make money from that.

Why would anyone want a subscription to leggings!?!

@vanillandhoney

The meaning may be clear to you, but have a think about why the business might be so keen to avoid that word!

@windysocks

Why would anyone want a subscription to leggings!?!

Because no one else has asked this already.

[quote evenmoreforthemoor]@DifficultPifcultLemonDifficult

The entire website is deliberately obtuse.

And yes, some people do lack basic reading skills, hence why websites shouldn't be deliberately obtuse.[/quote]
If people lack reading skills to that extent, and I don’t doubt some people do, how have they even managed to get to the website?

If people lack reading skills to that extent, and I don’t doubt some people do, how have they even managed to get to the website?

FB add, MN add, heard it from a friend etc.

A 6 yo knows how to google and click on a link.

[quote Buddytheelf85]@vanillandhoney

The meaning may be clear to you, but have a think about why the business might be so keen to avoid that word![/quote]
Sure, like I've said numerous times, you can dislike their methods all you like, but there's nothing wrong with what they're doing.

People just don't like it - probably because they just clicked through quickly and signed up without realising. Fabletics use of the word membership instead of subscription doesn't change that.

Lots of places have "memberships" instead of subscriptions - it's the same thing.

For example... it's all over my fb now.

YABU. Its absolutely clear it's a subscription service.
I signed up, got some great leggings and set a reminder on my phone to skip each month. I just buy when I need something. Really very simple and straightforward.

Its not like they dont make it obvious!

It was definitely dodgy before, not sure about now. But if it's so obvious people would not keep getting caught out.

Who needs new athletic gear every month? Has she not heard of the environmental impact of clothing? I'm sure Mumma Kate has preached to us about the environment before.

At what point do people start taking responsibility for their own mistakes? The website is very, very clear. Let this be a lesson to your friend.