AIBU to ask your opinions on God?

[Violetduck]

Do you beleive there is a God? I would like to, but how can he exist alongside modern science?

Aibu to believe in something more?

@EileenGC so if you are totally honest (and I don’t expect you to be on this board) it’s all just random chance really.

@Iwonder777

I hope I won't be jumped upon upon this thread. I'm being honest. In answer to the OP.

I don't think anyone is being jumped upon tbh (and I would hope not, your beliefs should be respected). It's the people who believe everyone else should buy into their particular flavour of religion that are being called out here.

[quote Teenageromance]@EileenGC so if you are totally honest (and I don’t expect you to be on this board) it’s all just random chance really.[/quote]
It definitely will look like that. I guess this is where faith plays a part. I believe all the 'random' things that have happened to me are part of God's plan for my life, because I know He is actually interested in me as an individual.

But I can't prove it, nor do I pretend that I can. I believe Jesus will come again and people will be resurrected as the Bible says, so it's not until then (if and when that happens) that everyone will be able to agree on it.

I hope it's true and that it will happen (I know it will but the rational part of my brain tells me hope is a better word as I can't prove any of this myself) - but if it's not real, I haven't wasted anything during this one short life.

Depends what you mean by 'God'? For some people Science is their God.

I always find it amusing when someone says "I don't believe in God" one minute and then the next minute they're singing the national anthem "God save the Queen" with gusto.

This. I know God exists because I have been able to form a relationship with Him. Because I can feel His presence in my life, I ask Him for advice and can talk to Him when I need. Because I see His influence in this world. There is a lot of suffering and I have at times struggled to come to terms with it all. But I know He is real, and can also see how most people believe the contrary, because they've never experienced otherwise. I also truly believe God and modern science don't contradict each other - they're actually both needed to explain how some things work and were created.

Charles Manson truly believed the Beatles were sending him coded messages to bring about the end days. Heaven's Gate truly believed they were going to join the mothership in tail of Comet Hale-Bopp when they killed themselves, Memebers of the Solar Temple though they were going to Sirius.

What you 'believe' means shit unless you have some evidence other than the testimony of an imaginary friend to back it up.

I always find it amusing when someone says "I don't believe in God" one minute and then the next minute they're singing the national anthem "God save the Queen" with gusto

Well that's a whole new thread, isn't it

If you are really interested in finding out if there is a God or not then find a quiet place, ask God to reveal himself and start reading the book of John....

@HavfrueDenizKisi

That's a great response from Stephen Fry.

I'll believe in a god when someone produces some evidence for him being real. Sincere belief isn't proof. After all most of the religious people in the world (and throughout history) must be sincerely believing in the wrong one.

I have noticed too that Jesus only has a relationship with someone who lives in a place where Christianity has been introduced by people. If he/the holy spirit just contacted people directly there'd be the same number of Christians in every country, but he has to wait until you've heard about him before he can appear in your head.

@TheSandman why does it mean shit? I've said numerous times on this thread I can't prove God's existence. Same as you can't prove He doesn't exist. It's one of those things, where certain people feel they're superior, or more intelligent than others, just because of their different beliefs.

@80sForever nope doesn’t work

I don't believe in any particular God, but I don't believe there can have been so many coincidences in nature to have got us to this point from primeval slime.
So I think there must be something more, but God knows what.

@Iwonder777

I'd go as far as to say I've had experiences of Jesus. Tangible experiences.

I'm about as credible as they come, worldly wise. I'm not cookoo. Far from it.

once you've had an experience of Jesus. You know. He's the beginning and the end. Life's never the same.

Fact

Faith is not fact, no matter how many times you say it

@chomalungma

Why do people have an experience with Jesus?

And not with Thor?

Who is Thor? Nobody

@chomalungma

I always find it amusing when someone says "I don't believe in God" one minute and then the next minute they're singing the national anthem "God save the Queen" with gusto

Well that's a whole new thread, isn't it

Maybe that thread needs starting?

I am genuinely curious how many people do that and what their thinking is?

[quote Teenageromance]@80sForever nope doesn’t work[/quote]
What doesn't work?

For me,
Too many bad things happen to good people for there to be a higher being/god and so on. I don’t understand how anyone in that position could have children die of cancer and paedophiles slip around unnoticed.

I think the idea can bring comfort to people in times of loss and desperation and I have no issue with it-it just isn’t for me.

Who is Thor? Nobody

He and the other Norse Gods were big a long time ago - when people believed in them.

Just like other people have different belief systems now.

@80sForever asking if there is a god that he reveals himself. Just doesn’t work - there is no one there

There is a freedom in knowing there isn’t anyone there you know.

I am genuinely curious how many people do that and what their thinking is

Because if you don't sing the National Anthem, people write things about you in the Daily Mail?

And the UK has co-opted both God and the Monarchy into our national anthem. For some reason

@LastTrainEast

I'll believe in a god when someone produces some evidence for him being real. Sincere belief isn't proof. After all most of the religious people in the world (and throughout history) must be sincerely believing in the wrong one.

I have noticed too that Jesus only has a relationship with someone who lives in a place where Christianity has been introduced by people. If he/the holy spirit just contacted people directly there'd be the same number of Christians in every country, but he has to wait until you've heard about him before he can appear in your head.

Hmm have you ever heard of Pascal's Wager?

It is very interesting because he took a very philosophical, mathematical and probability theory approach.

"It posits that humans bet with their lives that God either exists or does not."

"Pascal argues that a rational person should live as though God exists and seek to believe in God. If God does not actually exist, such a person will have only a finite loss (some pleasures, luxury, etc.), whereas if God does exist, he stands to receive infinite gains (as represented by eternity in Heaven) and avoid infinite losses (eternity in Hell)."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_wager

Image attached for simple terms. Nice to have a diagram

No, I don't believe. There are too many atrocities in the world to believe that a God would let them happen.

@Teenageromance did you ask? Well give it time and you will see