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Doing this to a child is wrong

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fuckxmas · 27/11/2020 18:09

BBC report : His said his 14-year-old daughter had not left her bedroom for four days, with meals being left outside her door, until the family learned the result was void on Thursday

This is so wrong to do to a child

OP posts:
corythatwas · 28/11/2020 14:23

Some teens have sports and other activities they love. But they wouldn't be allowed to do those while isolating anyway. I have known very few teens (despite large extended family) who have been keen to just go out on their own and exercise. And if they are isolating, where would they exercise anyway? We have a very small living room and an equally small garden. Not much exercise to be had here while observing rules for covid-isolators. My son's bedroom is the only one with a reasonable amount of floor space.

flaviaritt · 28/11/2020 14:25

Right, they weren’t allowed out. I’m going to assume (since you won’t say) this was for more than a week. I am not at all convinced that was even legal. And yes, it absolutely horrifies me and I have never ever heard any family in real life doing this. Because of a cold or flu. I am actually not even sure I believe you.

ILoveYou3000 · 28/11/2020 14:26

That isn’t the case. What is being said here is that this compulsion is justified. I don’t think that.

Please show where anyone has said that.

lyralalala · 28/11/2020 14:26

@flaviaritt

Right, they weren’t allowed out. I’m going to assume (since you won’t say) this was for more than a week. I am not at all convinced that was even legal. And yes, it absolutely horrifies me and I have never ever heard any family in real life doing this. Because of a cold or flu. I am actually not even sure I believe you.
Not legal?

You're really stretching now 😂

flaviaritt · 28/11/2020 14:27

Please show where anyone has said that.

I’m not here to read things on your behalf. It’s here in black and white. If you need me to show you, I suspect showing you wouldn’t help.

flaviaritt · 28/11/2020 14:28

lyralalala

I wonder what SS would have said about it, yes. How can it be perfectly fine to tell a child they’re not allowed to leave the house to exercise or leave their bedroom for ten days? It’s obviously different with lockdown because the law says you can’t leave the house, but that is a monumental imposition on our freedoms. I think what Cory is describing would have been of concern to a social worker.

ILoveYou3000 · 28/11/2020 14:30

Once again: I have not said anyone has used a physical lock. I have said if the child is confined against their will then that is very wrong. But others disagree.

Okay I'll rephrase, no one has said it's okay to hold Force a child to stay in their rooms against their will.

Most of us, who have teens with whom we've spoken about this, have said they'd be more than willing to stay in their rooms. No one has said they would force their kids to. Not once. Some might have asked them too, or been asked to themselves when younger but no one has ever claimed they forced or were forced. Unless you can show me a post I've missed that says otherwise.

flaviaritt · 28/11/2020 14:30

Okay I'll rephrase, no one has said it's okay to hold Force a child to stay in their rooms against their will.

This is only a reasonable take if you literally can’t read the posts.

flaviaritt · 28/11/2020 14:31

Unless you can show me a post I've missed that says otherwise.

The thread isn’t hidden. Just go and read them. I’m not your secretary.

ILoveYou3000 · 28/11/2020 14:36

These aren’t difficult questions.

😂😂😂

Your arrogance and hypocrisy is astounding.

Oh well at least you're providing a little entertainment for one confined to bed for the day.

flaviaritt · 28/11/2020 14:38

Your arrogance and hypocrisy is astounding.

What’s arrogant about asking a person who is defending their own actions to actually describe them? Nobody made Cory come on here and say confining kids to their bedrooms is reasonable and normal. She chose to do that. Now she won’t say what she did. That’s up to her, but I think it speaks to the fact that it wasn’t great.

ILoveYou3000 · 28/11/2020 14:39

I’m not here to read things on your behalf. It’s here in black and white. If you need me to show you, I suspect showing you wouldn’t help.

Roughly translated: I can't show you because it doesn't exist, so I'm going to go all passive aggressive and hint at you not being bright enough to understand.

Got it.

flaviaritt · 28/11/2020 14:41

Roughly translated: I can't show you because it doesn't exist, so I'm going to go all passive aggressive and hint at you not being bright enough to understand.

That wasn’t a hint.

ILoveYou3000 · 28/11/2020 14:43

That wasn’t a hint.

😂😂😂

You are a hoot.

Apparently everyone on this thread but you is thick. And you're wondering why arrogant?

lyralalala · 28/11/2020 14:43

@flaviaritt

lyralalala

I wonder what SS would have said about it, yes. How can it be perfectly fine to tell a child they’re not allowed to leave the house to exercise or leave their bedroom for ten days? It’s obviously different with lockdown because the law says you can’t leave the house, but that is a monumental imposition on our freedoms. I think what Cory is describing would have been of concern to a social worker.

I think you're absolutely fucking clueless as to what would remotely interest social services.

A contagious child spending their time convalescing in their bedroom would not be it.

but once again, you know that and you're extrapolating bullshit purely for effect.

flaviaritt · 28/11/2020 14:46

Apparently everyone on this thread but you is thick. And you're wondering why arrogant?

No, not everyone on the thread is thick.

CorvusPurpureus · 28/11/2020 14:47

We have it all worked out: the confirmed case switches bedrooms with me so they get the en-suite.

All 3dc

flaviaritt · 28/11/2020 14:47

think you're absolutely fucking clueless as to what would remotely interest social services. A contagious child spending their time convalescing in their bedroom would not be it.

A child being compelled to stay in their room for days whether they liked it or not without exercise or fresh air every time someone caught a cold? If you say so.

CorvusPurpureus · 28/11/2020 14:48

...shit, hit post:

...are mostly put out as my room is apparently too boring! So I'd have to deliver various technology before settling myself into one of their foetid dens for a fortnight.

lyralalala · 28/11/2020 14:50

@flaviaritt

think you're absolutely fucking clueless as to what would remotely interest social services. A contagious child spending their time convalescing in their bedroom would not be it.

A child being compelled to stay in their room for days whether they liked it or not without exercise or fresh air every time someone caught a cold? If you say so.

I do.

Your drama-llama extrapolations are getting more spectacular by the thread.

Would love to stay and be amused by your antics more, but I have an online game date with my 11yo. We’re both “imprisoned” in our bedrooms with D&V atm.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 28/11/2020 14:51

Fucking hell.

This is honestly even worse than the thread you took over by arguing that it's cruel to use face masks on children and that yours is would be whatever scared and whatnot and then it turned out it doesn't even apply to your 4 year old and you didn't even put mask on them before but it's cruel and damaging and it all became about you and your child who doesn't even have to wear a mask and for fucks sake have some dignity woman and stop misreading posts and overtaking threads like this.

And yes. Tha lack of panctuation and a confusing sentence is there on purpose because that's how threads eoth you on feel

flaviaritt · 28/11/2020 14:52

SchrodingersImmigrant

You don’t have to read my posts or reply. But I will speak as I like.

SchrodingersImmigrant · 28/11/2020 14:53

It's hatd not to read your posts when an interesting thread becomes basically JUST your posts🤷🏻

corythatwas · 28/11/2020 14:56

Flavia, the answer is that if they are isolating due to Covid, they cannot leave their home. There is nowhere inside this smallish semi where they could exercise better than in their own rooms. So the question of exercise would not arise.

When my dc were teens Covid was not around, so the only times they had to isolate was for actual acute illness. If you have flu or D & V, the need for exercise does not tend to be a very urgent one. Staying in bed for a few days with D & V or perhaps a week with flu is not necessarily perceived as the worst thing you can do. I had pneumonia when I was 14. If someone had come to me and said "oh you poor thing, don't you need to get out and exercise?" I would have assumed I was delirious.

As for the number of days, I suspect the reason I cannot remember anything exact is that it never caused a problem. Like so many 14yos ds was going through a hibernation stage anyway and had to be badgered to emerge for meals and other family occasions at the best of times. And certainly didn't want to be hugged, whether in sickness or health. That didn't mean there weren't hundreds of ways in which I could make him feel loved and cared for. I did. But at the age of 14, close physical contact just wasn't what he needed most.

I'd say most teens conduct a large part of their social lives from their bedrooms anyway these days.

flaviaritt · 28/11/2020 14:57

SchrodingersImmigrant

And the reason for that is that people are replying. You will see that I am only posting in direct response to people saying (like in your case) what they think to me. Why should you have the right to speak to me without my having a right of reply? Wouldn’t that be a little... asymmetrical?

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