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How to cope with upset new boyfriend?

114 replies

grapegreen · 26/11/2020 13:38

We are together some months . I've posted about him before under a different name. He was treated appallingly through a few years by a woman who, from how he describes his experience is a classic narcissist . The relationship nearly
Cost him his family and friends and his mental health and he says he felt I

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Cocomarine · 26/11/2020 14:20

If you feel cherished and adored, why is it your second time posting about him, and why have you decided to name change so that his behaviour can’t be seen alongside whatever prompted you to post before?

Something isn’t right for you, or you wouldn’t be posting.

So you asked him to block her, and he did - no row.

So how did you end up in a row? Because you told him that the previous contact from her was part of the control, and he didn’t want to see that?

ShutTheFuckUp123 · 26/11/2020 14:22

He has trouble written all over him. Far too much emotional baggage for a new partner to worry about, cut your losses and let him get the therapy he needs, and you can look for someone a bit less stressful. Relationships are meant to be enjoyable.

grapegreen · 26/11/2020 14:23

I know that he is telling the truth from his close friend And also his brother and sil.
He had to go to his brothers on a number of occasions to escape violence . It sounds awful . But yes true.

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Noddyandbiggerears · 26/11/2020 14:24

To be honest it sounds like there’s a lot of armchair diagnosing coming from you OP. What was the previous issue?

Cheeseandwin5 · 26/11/2020 14:25

The problem with posting this problem is there are many who will not take what you say on face value.
The will think your DH is lying or deserved what happened at him and you have been duped. He certainly wont be a victim.
I suggest you try again and swap all the genders, you may get more supportive, sympathetic and helpful replies.

grapegreen · 26/11/2020 14:26

The row happened because I thought he was not being honest in not seeing how manipulative and
Controlling she still
Was . He genuinely didn't t and now we have the fall out where he is quiet in himself and worried because he thought he had dealt With all of these issues in counselling . He is sad .

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TheTrashBagIsOursCmonTrashBag · 26/11/2020 14:26

@Cocomarine

And you know what? “I’d love to read his mind”? That’s reason enough for me to walk away.

My 20s were full of men whose mind I just wanted to be able to read.
My 30s was a marriage to someone who I felt if only I could read his mind, we’d be able to work it out.

Guess what? They were all just men who couldn’t be bothered to explain themselves.

I spent my 40s post divorce with a man to whom I could just say, “hey - what’s up?” and he would just tell me what was on his mind.

If you truly believe you’ve found a little pot of gold under a lot of trauma caused by bitch ex girlfriend, then tell him to go see a therapist and come back for a date when you no longer need to “read his mind”.

This x1000.

OP, you can’t fix this man and you’re in danger of being in a relationship where you walk on eggshells to avoid “upsetting” him. That’s no way to live. The sensible thing to do is take a break/split up and hope that he then sorts his shit out in the meantime. With a therapist not a well meaning but of her depth girlfriend.

Noddyandbiggerears · 26/11/2020 14:28

@Cheeseandwin5 actually I think if you swapped all the genders people would be having a go at the OP for repeatedly digging at her DP and telling him he’s a victim. It’s not up to her to keep doing that.

Rowan8 · 26/11/2020 14:30

Every word that Hardly, Coco and Titch... in fact everyone is saying is bang on.
Huge red flags, he sounds more the narcissist, playing the victim, giving you enough attention to get you hooked and ensuring as Hardly said in the same vain, with his chapter and verse to you. enough information to keep you in line and ensure you are passive to his needs, and like so many you've fallen for it, you would not be posting if your gut wasn't tell you as much something isn't quite right.. listen to your gut..
detach yourself from him, don't answer calls have less time to see him and gently extract yourself from the situation if you think there will be repercussions or he will pursue you because his bs victim speech isn't working...
You can't ever fix anyone, it's down to them to fix themselves with the help of professionals if that's what it takes.

BlueThistles · 26/11/2020 14:32

He's obsessed with her... you are obsessed with him.... who's caring about you ?

nobody 🌺

end this bullshit now OP

grapegreen · 26/11/2020 14:33

No armchair diagnosing . I'm
Stating things as they are. I just needed so
Support to help me understand what's going on. Part of me feels bad for causing him such pain by thrashing this out . I can see how badly it has affected him. We rowed because I thought he was pretending not to see the manipulation/ control etc whereas I know that he genuinely didn't. His biggest issue now is that he thought he had dealt with the residual trauma but believe he hasn't

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HollyandIvyandallthingsYule · 26/11/2020 14:37

@Cocomarine

And you know what? “I’d love to read his mind”? That’s reason enough for me to walk away.

My 20s were full of men whose mind I just wanted to be able to read.
My 30s was a marriage to someone who I felt if only I could read his mind, we’d be able to work it out.

Guess what? They were all just men who couldn’t be bothered to explain themselves.

I spent my 40s post divorce with a man to whom I could just say, “hey - what’s up?” and he would just tell me what was on his mind.

If you truly believe you’ve found a little pot of gold under a lot of trauma caused by bitch ex girlfriend, then tell him to go see a therapist and come back for a date when you no longer need to “read his mind”.

This. 100%
Cocomarine · 26/11/2020 14:38

Honestly, you feeling so bad sounds a bit drama llama / grief tourist to me. This all happened to him, not you. You’re elevating your role in his current feelings, which is... interesting.

So - he’s realised that he’s still significantly impacted by a previous abusive relationship. What does he plan to do about that?

Noddyandbiggerears · 26/11/2020 14:40

@BlueThistles

He's obsessed with her... you are obsessed with him.... who's caring about you ?

nobody 🌺

end this bullshit now OP

^^ this
ChickensMightFly · 26/11/2020 14:41

It sounds to me (if the treatment he suffered is true) as though he has escaped from a terrible situation, has done incredibly well to get this far but is carrying the damage. Of course anyone sharing his life will brush up against the after effects along with him, it doesn't mean you can't work to get past it together.
Of course it is worth staying with him... if he is a good person and a good match for you in life, people aren't disposable and if this situation was gender reversed you would be getting a lot of 'keep being supportive, she'll get there in the end' type comments. There are two things to consider here, the damage he is trying to heal, and his actual own personality, only if his own personality is what you want is it worth walking this road with him. Sometimes it can be hard to separate the two.
It might be that you need some outside counselling separately so that his healing can happen and be well supported by you, and you can recognise what is him, and what is his damage talking... if you want to do that.
I would encourage him to seek professional help in any case to allow him to shed these fears and unhelpful coping mechanisms he is carrying and to allow him to realise his potential as a person now he has escaped this person.

Oilyoilyoilgob · 26/11/2020 14:42

God a few months in should be nice food, drinks and sex. Not this shite

Maybe it’s because I’m nearly 40 but this all sounds so dramatic. I get we can meet people who have had horrendous experiences but it sounds like he should be sorting himself out, perhaps with therapy, before dragging you into this.

Not being mean, you sound like I was in my very early twenties. Wanting to care and rescue. Caring is good in a loving relationship but this just sounds......really shit.

Tying yourself in knots when you should be having a lovely time together. Tell him get 6 months of help then you’ll see him.

Noddyandbiggerears · 26/11/2020 14:44

I’m also confused. You’re saying he had counselling but at the same time he didn’t see that there is an issue? Was the counselling for something else?

The thing is - this sounds like a fairly new relationship, and it shouldn’t be this hard.

contrmary · 26/11/2020 14:45

I can't help but feel if this was the other way around, a woman who had been abused by her ex partner and was now trying to do her best in a new relationship, the emphasis would be on the new partner helping her to get through it and be stronger.

The previous response to the question should you stay together ("For your own sake and his, no.") is terrible advice. It suggests that your boyfriend hasn't fully recovered from his awful experience and therefore isn't worth anyone's time until he sorts himself out, alone. The best way to help him recover is to be in a loving relationship.

There are bumps in the road like all relationships but from your posts it sounds perfectly healthy. You had a disagreement because you he still had contact with his ex, he agreed to stop contact. Couples disagree and look at things in different ways. The strong couples work things out and stay together.

He probably does need a session with a professional counsellor to help him see how much damage the ex caused. The first step is for him to realise how much she fucked him up, the second is to move on from it.

Unfortunately, male or female, the trauma from a sustained period of abuse doesn't just stop when the relationship is ended. It lingers. I was abused by an ex during a six month relationship, I thought I was "cured" of it a few weeks and months later, but looking back I was still suffering for about seven years. I didn't seek help, which is why I am confident in my advice that your partner should.

MikeUniformMike · 26/11/2020 14:46

Just walk away, @grapegreen.
Psycho exes are often anything but. Unless you have witnessed any of the controlling and manipulation, it may well not have existed.
Your fella comes with a big red flag.

ProfessorPootle · 26/11/2020 14:47

He needs counselling, you’re not his counsellor. Tell him to get help and move on. Men who use women to fix their mental health make everything your problem, then if they do heal they move onto a fresh new gf.

MikeUniformMike · 26/11/2020 14:47

His sister, bil, mum etc will always give his side of the story and that is probably not what really happened.

AnneLovesGilbert · 26/11/2020 14:47

Have you had many relationships before? This all sounds quite hysterical and overly dramatic. You haven’t been together long, you’ve already broken up once, this is at least your second thread about him.

Why are you doing this to yourself? It shouldn’t be this complicated. Honestly, this is supposed to be the honeymoon period and if you really feel cherished and adored by him when he (and his friends and family) seem to spend a huge amount of time discussing another woman then maybe you’re not used to actually being cherished and adored.

You won’t save him. It’s not your job. You’re not remotely qualified either. You don’t know the ex is a narcissist Hmm

Have a look at your own behaviour and examine why you’re so attracted by this bloody drama.

Regularsizedrudy · 26/11/2020 14:51

Errr sounds like he should not be in a relationship right now. ..that is the nicest way I can put it.

HollowTalk · 26/11/2020 14:56

If all this is true then he should be having therapy rather than offloading it all onto a new relationship.

Why hadn't he blocked her after he left her? That would be the normal response to make when you knew you'd been treated so badly.

Whatisthisfuckery · 26/11/2020 14:58

Christ alive, this is a disaster. Come on OP, give your head a wobble.

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