To find these covid snitching threads terrifying

[CrotchBurn]

Student house party. 75% voted for OP to call police.

Really?

I think this thread is chilling proof at how far we've fallen in a society within such a small amount of time. Less than a year with constant media brainwashing, all of us essentially under house arrest, and look at us. Clearing out supermarkets and calling the police because "it's the right thing to do" and "they're putting society at risk".

Who else would you have turned in?

At what other point in history would you have colluded with the government to "do the right thing", without any thought for your fellow humans just being people?

They are students. They are broke, they have been confined to their box rooms almost a whole year. Have some heart for christs sake.

And by the way, I do believe in covid. I believe in staying home and wearing masks and doing the right thing. I would never grass though. Ever. And that goes for covid antics, benefit fraud, whatever. I believe people sometimes do what they need to do to survive physically or emotionally.

I think its terrifying what society has become in less than a year.

Who would have thought we would be living on a world where you would be standing in a little yellow circle traced out on a supermarket floor, and not an inch over if you please, else you'll be reported as a health threat!

Is this our world now? In which young lonely people are turned in and fined for spending time together?

I'm not advocating for student parties, I'm advocating for looking away when you see one.

@Penners99

I would ALWAYS report. Not seen anything to report so far.

Sounds like you feel left out.

If a group of student, or anyone, decides to have a loud party that keeps me awake at night, I more than happily report the selfish twats. That has nothing to do with Covid, I like my sleep.

Funnily enough, when I said that in the previous years, no one called me a snitch, a nazy or started having vapour about surveillance society.

I think some of the restrictions have got up to the head of some people like the OP who enjoy seeing themselves as the hero in some dystopian society.

I don’t know - my friends 11 year old nephew died of Covid because someone someone was reckless and had a gathering which he was at.... perhaps if you posed the question to him, he would disagree with you because it’s directly affected him, his sister. His nephew does because someone didn’t follow the rules. How do you excuse that OP?

I'm tired of doing the right thing and yet seeing others not doing so.
However, if it's some next door neighbour wanting to see their grandmother, it's really not my business....no, I'm not going to report. The incidence is too small and presumably they've weighed up the risks.

But a huge student party is very different. Large numbers, clearly against the rules, and much more likely to result in the spread of the virus to large numbers of people which will, in turn, spread elsewhere. As demonstrated in many University cities such as Nottingham, Manchester and so on, which saw huge spikes in cases once students went back...

There is a difference, and yes, I would report this.

Couldn't agree more OP. I am horrified at what, we, as humans, have become - buying in to all the fear and scare-mongering. It's not he virus that is "lethal and deadly" (which we now know it is NOT to the MAJORITY of people). It's what we are happily allowing the government to dictate to us without question.

WOKE.

I would definitely report because any of them could potentially have the virus and be asymptomatic. They could then infect a large number of people and even, inadvertently, cause the deaths of some. I would report it because I am responsible and care for my fellow man and to do the right thing and be kind and protective towards others.

If it weren't for so many fuckwits breaking lockdown regulations, we wouldn't be in this mess again, so YABU.

I am more annoyed about the behaviour of MPs and advisors than a student party, but am not surprised that 75% of people would call the police about such a deliberate act.

As for talking to the press, wrong to just complain about an MP or a prominent person to them if you have just let it happen. That just seems to me to be petty political point scoring not caring about the spread of the virus.

@lioncitygirl

I don’t know - my friends 11 year old nephew died of Covid because someone someone was reckless and had a gathering which he was at.... perhaps if you posed the question to him, he would disagree with you because it’s directly affected him, his sister. His nephew does because someone didn’t follow the rules. How do you excuse that OP?

A healthy 11 year old child died of covid?

I think its terrifying that people cant go without a party to prevent the spread of a virus that is decimating our economy, killing loved ones and wrecking childrens educations. How fucking selfish can a person be to value a party over others lives and livelihoods?

From the OP Is this our world now? In which young lonely people are turned in and fined for spending time together?

Lonely does NOT equate "right or need to party" IMO

This has probably already been said but I find the narrow view that any behaviour which doesn't cause direct harm should be allowed to slide absolutely terrifying, and reprehensible. By that token, drink driving shouldn't be reported, nor should discriminatory practices in workplaces, and there shouldn't be any whistleblowing on corrupt, fraudulent or negligent corporate behaviour...

Also the suggestion that reporting an illegal gathering is fascist group think and couldn't possibly be the result of a reasoned thought process is offensive.

ElizaDeee

so not only you wouldn't report an illegal brothel
an illegal (by definition!) sweat shop
a illegal building or extension (boundary wars are a thing!)
a beaten up child and his mother
a antisocial neighbour
a neighbour driving their kids to and back from school under the influence?

but you dare insulting those who would? You should be ashamed of yourself.

@studychick81

Nope, regardless of your post OP I would totally report them. I don't like all this turn a blind eye business. They are breaking the law, they are risking lives and potentially causing schools to close and consequences for other people. Their need to party because they've had a hard year (haven't we all) does not trump the risk. Being able to party is not essential, they have plenty of years left to party. Whilst I do have sympathy for students in general as it's a rubbish situation for them I will still report them in a second. The quicker this is under control the quicker we can all get back to real life.

They are breaking the law

We are bow in a society where people are calling the police because people are seeing their family and friends. Not robbing banks, stealing, assaulting people. Just seeing their family and friends.

But the law is the law eh?

I wonder if people would be so compliant if a ‘new’ law came out and said - fathers must leave the family home because men spread the virus more? Even if you believed it to be untrue would you happily wave your dh off - because it was the law?

What if a new law came out that said over 70s were not allowed out of the house - for their own protection? Would that be ok?

How far would people go to obey the law?

It is scary not just with covid but this reporting and shaming people in general which is so common on social media and forums right now. It's not quite the way of nazis just yet but I can see it heading this way in the near future. Times are tough for everyone right now, and everyone should be free to make their own choices, so if you choose to shield/isolate that's up to you but if people want to take the risk and meet friends that's up to them.

It's completely different reporting someone for a crime such as violence / abuse / danger to other people.

But reporting someone for having a tea with their friend..... This is going into dangerous territory and actually wasting police resources in comparison to real serious crime.

[quote lydia7986]@AltJ
I think the people who are happy to call the police in this situation are the same people who would have been calling the police over suspicions a neighbour had a jewish family in the basement in 1940s Germany. Justifying it with 'they're breaking the law' and 'protecting the nation'

Are you seriously comparing Jewish people to a deadly virus?

What is wrong with you?[/quote]
Excuse me?

This sort of unhinged smear does nothing to prove how psychologically ideal you are.

But reporting someone for having a tea with their friend..... This is going into dangerous territory and actually wasting police resources in comparison to real serious crime.

the thread was actually about student parties, but never mind

@ElizaDeee

Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

So some knobber who can't be arsed to wear a mask or holds a mass illegal gathering to get pissed is fighting fascism for the greater good? No. They're just a twat who wants a party

Earlier this week 2 police officers turned up on our doorstep because they’d had a report that we had held a fireworks party.
We did have fireworks, and we did have a little party - myself, my husband and our four adult children who live here permanently.
It’s really upset me to think someone, who can’t know us, as they would know we are a household of 6 adults, did this to us.

YABU. I work in a university, some of our students work in hospitals and care homes, they travel using public transport, the behaviour of groups of students partying and ignoring guidelines is putting the whole community at risk.

Our numbers were horribly high but someone reported a party and someone was fined. Fortunately the message seems to have got out following this and the numbers have dropped.

Getting pissed and partying is not a human right, sure it's great fun but the world won't end without it. Pretty much every student has the option of taking a break in study if they don't want to be at uni at this time. But while people carry on like nothing's happening this will run and run.

Nothing to do with government, nothing to do with brainwashing, everything to do with listening to people who are living this shit day in and day out.

Ignoring common sense because you don't like being told what to do is embarrassing to be honest, sort of thing my kids would have done when they were about 13.

Dds housemate is self isolating due to contact with someone with covid

Its not her fault in the slightest, no parties or get togethers

i worry about the blame game being played by even some of my friends that uni students are all having wild parties and spreading it , when a majority aren’t doing this

I agree that people shouldn’t be having parties (non uni students have been doing this as well, older people etc) but i think some people have become incredibly judgmental about all aspects of covid

Unless you’re a keyworker it appears to be your fault if you get covid

I don't know if I would 'snitch' but I'd be really pissed of.
My 19 year old has stuck to the rules,he has ASD and is mentally struggling, but knows he is keeping others safe!
Its been a totally shit year for a lot of people, some elderly havent seen anyone for months.
Regardless of age we have to be sensible and having large parties is not the one.

How far would people go to obey the law?
as far as they believe it's acceptable.

What did you do when Trump decided to separate parents and children caught for illegally crossing the border? I am not in the US and I still tried to sign petitions, gave donations to charities fighting it and raise awareness. Not much at all, but at least more than nothing at all.

If the Queen of England or her PM had decided to do the same with illegal immigrants here, I would have done a lot more.

I might not report someone for having friends staying over, but a big party is taking the mickey. Balancing the restrictions with the consequences of selfishness is a hard one.

I get people who don't think it's right to report, but the ones who start lashing out about Nazi Germany, North Korea etc are ridiculous - and usually hypocritical!