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If you’ve ghosted a friend why did you do it?

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friedshrimp · 21/11/2020 08:43

Just that really. Recently ghosted by a friend with no explanation - there were no issues, everything was fine and we chatted almost everyday. Why does it happen?

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Gwenhwyfar · 22/11/2020 22:51

@LadyTiredWinterBottom2

Is ghosting just a modern term for a friendship fizzling out?
Obviously not in most of these cases. Have you read the thread? If it fizzled out it would happen almost without either party noticing and people would not be upset at being suddenly ghosted.
MerryGoRoundBrain · 22/11/2020 22:57

I ghosted a friend after she’d made comments about my complete lack of parenting skills when I was pregnant (1st child). I was feeling anxious anyway and she just added to it. I just couldn’t bring myself to graciously forgive her. I made up excuses a couple of times she got in touch after and we went from a daily phone call and texts to zero contact in less than a week.

JustanAunt · 22/11/2020 23:19

Uni friend, she had the same boyfriend for the last two years of uni and we became good friends with him. After uni she came and stayed with me for a weekend, the first thing she gleefully tells me is that she is having an affair with another guy from work. She spent that entire weekend telling me about the new guy and not a single shit was given about her long term boyfriend. I was gutted for him and after she left she tried contacting me a few times but I had mentally checked out. She sent a message asking if it was because if the affair and I did reply and say yes, that I was heartbroken for her boyfriend and that she needed to end things with him, she agreed. We only spoke a handful of times after that, her life got really bad for a while after that and I did message her a few times, but once things were back on track I ducked out again and haven’t spoken since.

ContadoraExplorer · 22/11/2020 23:21

I basically got ghosted by two people I had known for years.

Friends since school, in adult life we would meet as a group a few times a year and keep in contact via whatsapp the rest of the time.

As time went on, they all had children but I didn't (I took longer to start my career and my now DH and I got married later) and they would do a lot of things with the kids and didn't invite me (understandable but it would have been nice go be invited occasionally, my other group of friends did and I happily went along!)

Anyway, the group chat seemed to dwindle and the first person ignored me in private messages (when I wished her happy birthday/merry christmas) I, somewhat embarrassingly, messaged at those times for two years before I gave up as well as continuing the conversation, albeit noticing the same person really wasn't involved much, in the group chat.

I announced my pregnancy to the group and she was noticeably off with me then never asked me how I was or anything, despite the others doing so, therefore it was quite obvious she had checked out of our friendship. I therefore didn't bother to tell her when I had my DD, choosing to tell the ones who had kept in touch individually instead.

The second person then started to ignore me in the same way. I assume first person told her I hadn't told her about the birth or something. So, after one birthday and one christmas message going completely ignored (and no birthday message to me) I blocked them both out of my life.

My DH is quite straight talking and asked why I didn't call them out on it, ask why they did what they did, but I figured that if they can do that to me, I don't want them in my life anyway.

It's really not nice and I struggled mentally whilst it was happening; windering whether I said or did something wrong but I guess ultimately people can change at any time in their lives so just because you're friends for years doesn't always mean you will be for the rest of your lives.

SlartBartFast · 23/11/2020 17:46

You can confront her without telling her who told you, just refuse to name. If you want to keep the friendship with her dh, then perhaps you'll have to not say anything to her but keep your distance, don't confide in her or tell her any small issues you may have.

If I confront her she'll know who told me - we only have one friend in common.

She's one of those people who constantly posts memes on Facebook about how much she dislikes people in general, and how she'd rather just be home on her own with her cats. I think I might take her word for it and not reach out, but be willing to spend time with her if she makes the first move.

I'm going to see if DH and I can arrange to have lunch with her OH near where he works, on a weekday.

Hellomynameismary · 23/11/2020 18:58

I am not sure I have ghosted an actual friend. Strangers trying to chat to me on social media get blocked.

Still1nLove · 23/11/2020 19:42

I recently ghosted a friend of 32 years.
We were such good friends and spoke nearly every day. It came to light a few years ago that her husband was a manipulative, emotional abuser. Lots of things came out about what had gone on in their 17 year marriage. I supported her through the separation, which included her living in a refuge for dv victims and then temporary housing while he lived in his home country and would visit every couple of months. Until she got a council house and then covid hit. He convinced her to let him move in because otherwise he wouldn’t be able to see his kids.
Before the separation, they would go to his home county for the whole summer and she would tell me constantly how she hated to be there. This year was the perfect opportunity for her to say no, it’s a global pandemic ffs. But he managed to manipulate her into letting him just take the kids. When she told me that he had called her to say he doesn’t understand how she could choose to be away from her kids for 9 weeks (obvious gaslighting/manipulation), I just bluntly told her to tell him to bring them back then! Instead she got a full Brazilian and flew out the next morning!
She booked for her beautician to visit her at the same time that she had invited a few of us around for lunch (we were all taking it I turn to host), she tried to spin it as a pamper party. I didn’t fancy sitting around while she got her lady garden tended to.

It was the last straw for me, I realised that she was probably the victim of coercive control but she went in July and didn’t bother to call since. I only knew she was back in the country because I saw it on fb.

NoParticularPattern · 23/11/2020 19:50

I got ghosted by the woman who was supposedly my best friend. MOH for each other, god parents to kids, used to speak every day and see each other at least weekly etc etc etc. Then one day poof! I’m blocked on social media. I eventually start hearing people talking about what happened and realise I’ve been absolutely dragged through the gutter in all the tales she’s told everyone of what’s happened. I still to this day do not know for absolute certain what happened, but I suspect it was a combination of my husband having a slightly better job than hers (both the same job, different locations, just my husband happens to have more benefits than hers) and that I had outlived my usefulness to her. I saw it happen with several acquaintances over the years I was friends with her, but never to friends or properly close best friends. Although I’m not 100% certain what she wanted out of me in the first place really, since I still can’t really work out what she got or what she thinks she missed out on when I look back. I’ve had to move on because I’m not willing to live my life begging for the friendship of someone who could drop me like that, but it still bloody hurts. Her husband recently left her and quite frankly I don’t think I ever truly believed in karma until that day, but I do now. And I don’t care if that makes me a dreadful person who deserves to have it bite her on the arse. I’ll still think it.

LockdownLilly · 23/11/2020 20:58

A friendship was uneven, I realised when something amazing happened she just wasn't interested. My role was unpaid therapist and someone to be slightly better than.
I'd sensed an air of competition over silly things - DIY, craft activities, children's achievements.
It limped along but Xmas made it clear we were no longer socially acceptable in her public friendship circle.
So now I ignore any attempts to rekindle just stick to health & weather, small town with overlapping social networks.

RhubarbTea · 24/11/2020 23:42

@JustMeAndMyTins

I just want to say that - having been ghosted completely out of the blue when I was having a very hard time (but not particularly regaling her with this so, at worst, I was just less fun and positive/carefree to be around), it would be far kinder to let somebody know how you feel and why. And that you think the friendship has run it’s course.

There are some really solid reasons here to no longer want somebody to be in your life but I cannot tell you how horrible it has been to wonder - for years - why one of my best friends suddenly disappeared without so much as a crossed word.

This. Times a thousand. It will never stop bothering me I think, no matter how many years pass.
Dilemmmmma · 25/11/2020 12:16

it would be far kinder to let somebody know how you feel and why.

I didn't want to be kind. Fucking Bitch wasn't kind to me.

5zeds · 25/11/2020 12:40

Being kind is often a huge part of disfunctional relationships. Be honest.

Movement05 · 25/11/2020 12:54

I have. In hindsight, I have regretted this. The friend had done nothing 'wrong' and it was really me just thinking there was no further mileage in it. With age, I have come to see that, with a light touch, in the long run we might still have had much to offer each other.
OTOH, I don't regret ghosting another friend because she was too emotionally demanding and had anger issues which I didn't have the strength to handle. I didn't feel emotionally safe.
So as to whether it's a reasonable thing to do depends on the individual situation as you perceive it. I'm not denying that either of the friends above might have felt hurt though.

littlejalapeno · 25/11/2020 13:09

I’ve had friendships mutually fizzle out or go more low contact, that’s pretty normal as you move through life stages and different locations and jobs,

But I’m about to ghost someone who was a close friend because of her toxic behaviour. I’ve recently realised how manipulative and rude she is, after giving the benefit of the doubt for longer than was healthy. She had an explosive temper, can never be wrong and will bully, gaslight and ignore until she thinks enough time has passed, then have a crisis and expect all hands on deck as if nothing happened. She will manipulate, exclude and gossip to support her agenda. This behaviour has made me feel like shit.

I gently confronted her and said I’m sorry if I caused you upset but these are my issues and I’d like to get together to discuss them and save the friendship. She was angry, slagged me off to mutual friends, gaslight and denied and told me I was wrong for emailing and should’ve called her about it as she doesn’t respond well to that approach. I wanted to avoid a shouty confrontation which is why I emailed. She went silent on me for a month and the asked to meet the next day. Lockdown happened but we managed to meet after it ended.

On the day she asked if another friend could join us as she had limited time to socialise with both of us. I said no this is about us and it’s not appropriate she said the friend would be upset to be uninvited but if I insisted. I said it’s her fault not mine that the other friend will be upset, she told me to stop overreacting and that I needed to calm down (I had been calm).

We met up, she talked about everything except the issue, and tried to get me to really divulge all my “sad” experiences of the year. I broached discussing my issue and said it was important to me to talk about it. She said she didn’t think there was anything to say, that we’d both had a hard year, she forgave me for the outburst but was just a bystander to my hard year and I just needed to call her more. I agreed we’d both had a hard year but I felt so shocked that it was just more of the same “deny, exuse, gaslight” I didn’t say what I wanted to, she then asked me if I was going to get on the bus that had just pulled up (we had walked along the road) I felt so dismissed I waited for the next one chatting friendly. But feeing like rubbish. I just wanted an apology and an acknowledgement, and she swept it under the carpet and said going forward I should make more effort and we’d be fine.

I feel like I tried to save the friendship, but is there anything to save when she won’t ever acknowledge any problems? I don’t know where to go from here so will probably ghost her and mourn what I thought our friendship was, while hearing from everyone that she thinks I’m over sensitive and horrible for hurting her.

I’m not perfect and perhaps I’m too sensitive or hard work, but I need to chose people who don’t treat me like that, who I can trust. But I hate confrontation so will now just avoid and breathe easier.

Enrosadira · 25/11/2020 13:13

Because she was incredible sefish for many many years. One day it became just too much. There was no point in having a chat about it as I totaly lost any feeling I had.

That is my POV anyway. I might be the bitch but comes a point when life is too busy and I want to keep the space free to people I feel good being around.

Stompythedinosaur · 25/11/2020 13:44

I did this once many years ago. I was a young woman and he was an older man mey through work with a significant power differential between our roles (though I had recently left that job). I realised that the friendship was creepy, that he was weirdly controlling and critical of my very reasonable life choices (mainly a boyfriend I got together with) and seemed to think he could tell me what to do.

It might have been more mature to have a conversation about it, but I don't feel particularly bad about it. I was protecting myself.

mumduty · 25/11/2020 13:54

I was ghosted by my best friend as soon as I announced my engagement and she was the first person to know that my DH had proposed as I went to the toilet and texted her first before anyone. I included her to everything but she made up work excuses, mind you, we also work in the same field so I know she finishes work at 5pm and has her weekends off and also any time she books off, it's never been an issue by her work place in terms of approving it. I stopped bothering with her or putting any effort in after the wedding including sending happy birthday texts or anything. I sometimes see her pop up on social media at gender reveal parties or hen do's who she has met people through work or her bf's friends. So obviously, she has time for those events with people who she recently met but not with me on my happiest when me and her have had a history of friendship which lasted over 3 decades!

NorbertMeubles · 25/11/2020 13:55

I've ghosted one because she has shown herself to be a hypocritical self centred cow.

Movement05 · 25/11/2020 14:01

@littlejalapeno: I like the term 'low contact'. It helps to realise that normal friendship ebb and flow.

cleanasawhistle · 25/11/2020 15:00

I ghosted a friend.
Had been friends with K for a couple of years when something awful happened.As a family we stepped up to the plate and offered lots of support and practical help also.
We did lots of babysitting,gardening and small jobs around her house.
I also spet a lot of time with her,lunches out,phone calls etc.

A few years later I became very ill.
She would visit now and again but woud spend three hours sat on my sofa moaning about her awful life.
I had told her I couldnt have unanounced vistors,I wasnt well enough to have people just turning up for long chats but it kept happening.
She then started to neglect her daughter so I had the child here a lot also.

A mutual friend told me that K was now dating.I replied oh she hasnt mentioned it,mutual friend says well its been going on for months but she has only told friends....

Few days later K gets in touch.Could husband and son go to hers as she needed a couple of urgent jobs doing.So off they went.

I asked mutual friend why the boyfriend couldnt do the jobs and she said K would never ask him to help and he usually spends the weekends with his long term girlfriend.

I just saw red....so I am not a friend to be told about the boyfriend,but we are good enough to be on call to help your child and do jobs around your house.Also not happy she was seeing someone elses partner.All the times she played the trump card when I was ill,her life was awful and everyone had to feel sorry for her.
From that day I ignored all messages and phone calls,decided I had wasted enough time on her

NiceLegsShameAboutTheFace · 25/11/2020 18:09

Ghostinģ a friend? Such dramas! They just stop contacting you cos they have busy lives or stop getting much out of the relationship or cos they were never that invested anyhow. It's life. No worries

Bet ya someday baby, someone says the same to you ......

StillCoughingandLaughing · 25/11/2020 21:15

I was accused of ghosting a ‘friend’ many years ago (long before there was a term for it). She told anyone who would listen that she had no idea what she’d done and why I wouldn’t talk to her. Unfortunately quite a few people did listen and tried to plead her case with me. I pointed out one big problem with her argument - the fact that she never once tried to contact me after the incident that killed the friendship. No call, no note through the door; nothing. How did she know I wasn’t talking to her if she hadn’t tried? A couple of people tried to suggest it was a chicken or egg scenario (‘But if she knows you won’t talk to her, she won’t get in touch...’), but eventually they accepted that it would be quite a coincidence if she just happened not to have spoken to me and then heard from a third party that I didn’t want to know her.

I have been ghosted myself. A good friend suddenly stopped speaking to me after her birthday party, completely out of nowhere. I eventually saw her one night and confronted her and she said I’d insulted and upset her in her birthday (despite absolutely no sign of anything wrong at the time). I was very sceptical and started thinking about something else that happened that night - her boyfriend proposing. She’d said yes, but seemed freaked out. Months later she came to me and admitted she’d distanced me because she’d felt pressured into the engagement and knew that, while she could fake it with people who weren’t so close, she knew I’d have known things weren’t right.

CrownAddict · 25/11/2020 21:41

Ghosted by friend of 39 years, having been great school friends, her bridesmaid, and supporting her closely through a terrible divorce. Friendship rolled on, even ended up living a bit nearer each other. I then divorced. She disappeared. I decided to.tackle it, met her for a walk and very gently said not a criticism but an observation, but she seemed to have disappeared and had I done anything or did she feel uncomfortable about my divorce. She denied anything and was very vague... But then has dropped me again. I've decided to give up but feel very sad given all we went through and what good memories.we shared. It's a mystery although I'm told divorce does this even though she wasn't friends with my ex particularly.
I dropped.a very demanding, possessive and difficult friend so.maybe she too.had no idea why.
It's a sad business.

LondonlovesLola · 25/11/2020 21:55

I ghosted a friend I had been close to up until around the age of 25.
She ghosted me back then and I hadn’t a clue what I had done. Nobody had mobile phones and she just stopped answering my calls (land line).
She got back in touch with me (10 or so years later) and acted as if we were long lost best friends.
It sounds odd but the past had become a bit of a blur and I had forgotten how bad she had been to me.
She was full on and behaved as if we were each other’s closest friends. Messaged regularly, always asking to meet up & stupidly I met up with her quite a few times.
I gradually remembered what she was like (self centred, false person hidden behind a veneer of sickly sweet fake ‘loveliness’) and I just decided one day that I wasn’t going to be part of her life.
I ditched her the way she ditched me all those years ago.

Pinkyandthebrainz · 25/11/2020 21:57

Attention seeking, high drama, would spend the first 30-40 mins of our meet ups talking about herself before asking me how I was. Yawn.