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Figures Don’t Lie, But Liars Do Figure (Trump thread #114)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 19/11/2020 22:10

Enough already! Delusional, depraved, but DEFEATED. We may have to wait until Jan 20th but 45 will be GONE. McConnell is next...

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4076183-Donald-has-barricaded-himself-in-the-WH-and-we-have-Georgia-on-our-minds-Trump-thread-113

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Roussette · 21/11/2020 08:25

That link didn't work OVienna ?

Good to hear that Fox might be break ranks though

Possible AG candidates?
www.npr.org/sections/biden-transition-updates/2020/11/20/937043662/merrick-garland-among-biden-candidates-for-attorney-general-sources-say

chomalungma · 21/11/2020 08:33

There's an interesting video interview on this page with the Lt.Governer of Georgia.

The end of the video is a great quote.

www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-gov-brian-kemp-certifies-election-results-calls-for-another-hand-recount

Basically the Lt.Governor talks about how all legal votes will be recounted, how it looks like Trump has lost, and how 'this is still America at the end, and we should look at what the US is good at, not packaging things into tweets and soundbites'

Roussette · 21/11/2020 08:35

www.nytimes.com/2020/11/19/business/economy/mnuchin-fed-emergency-programs.html

In order to do as much damage on their way out the door, the Trump administration asked the Fed to return unused emergency lending funds, limiting Biden’s options for a pandemic response package

They're all sociopaths aren't they??

puzzledquiz · 21/11/2020 08:37

Does Trump honestly think he can overturn the results, Ican't figure out if he is deluded enough to genuinely think this or if he's having a massive tantrum

TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/11/2020 08:43
Grin Credit to: twitter.com/blacktshirt/status/1303487656014352385?s=21
Figures Don’t Lie, But Liars Do Figure (Trump thread #114)
Figures Don’t Lie, But Liars Do Figure (Trump thread #114)
Figures Don’t Lie, But Liars Do Figure (Trump thread #114)
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Roussette · 21/11/2020 08:43

No. He's just trying to create chaos before he leaves. He knows he is out of the WH but that won't stop him hitting out and hurting the country.

BruceAndNosh · 21/11/2020 10:13

Don Jr actually tested positive on Monday but they were obviously hoping to keep this quiet. He would have got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky kids!

lifesabitchandthenyoudie · 21/11/2020 10:16

@SonjaHeniesTutu I would pay very good money to see the Librarian take the orange one firmly, but gently - and giving one of his 'smiles' - by the hand and lead him into the Library...

For the uninitiated, you don't know what you're missing - I suggest starting with Guards! Guards! for a rollicking read and an excellent introduction to Our World Grin

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 21/11/2020 10:30

@BruceAndNosh

Don Jr actually tested positive on Monday but they were obviously hoping to keep this quiet. He would have got away with it if it wasn't for those pesky kids!
Sorry, "pesky kids"? I heard he'd tested positive on Monday, what did I miss?
BruceAndNosh · 21/11/2020 10:47

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom Sorry, channelling Scooby Doo!
I was clumsily trying to point out that although he tested postive on Monday, the news didn't break until friday when I think Bloomberg ran it. "pesky kids" = journalists
Having been so dismissive of Covid-19, I'm sure Don Jr wanted this to slip under the radar

BruceAndNosh · 21/11/2020 10:52

It's Saturday, nice crisp autumn day forecast for Washington DC.
Time for some golf.
Trump must need to wind down after his past busy week - those tweets don't write themselves!

SorrelForbes · 21/11/2020 10:54

Massive TP fan and loving the references here. I've recently re-read Jingo and The Fifth Elephant. Lots of relevant stuff!

ApolloandDaphne · 21/11/2020 12:07

I couldn't work out why I couldn't see this thread then realised I hadn't posted on it yet!

terrywynne · 21/11/2020 13:22

@SorrelForbes

Massive TP fan and loving the references here. I've recently re-read Jingo and The Fifth Elephant. Lots of relevant stuff!
You should re-read Truth! Definitely some relevance there in terms media..
AcrossthePond55 · 21/11/2020 13:31

Well, it's Saturday. Is it too much to hope we'll have the weekend off from recount and/or certification news? Between yesterday's GA certification and the MI legislators' meeting at the WH it was a bit of a roller coaster.

My 'jury' is still out on those MI legislators. Their statement sounded positive but there was still a bit of wiggle room.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/11/2020 13:35

What’s sauce for the turkey goose...

Michigan group sues Trump campaign for alleged mass voter suppression.
thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/526997-michigan-group-sues-trump-campaign-for-alleged-mass-voter-suppression

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AcrossthePond55 · 21/11/2020 14:29

[quote TheNorthWestPawsage]What’s sauce for the turkey goose...

Michigan group sues Trump campaign for alleged mass voter suppression.
thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/526997-michigan-group-sues-trump-campaign-for-alleged-mass-voter-suppression[/quote]
GOOD!

I hope the courts let this lawsuit proceed. It's not like there isn't tonnes of video and written (tweet) evidence showing that they've tried to suppress the vote before the election AND after!

chomalungma · 21/11/2020 14:34

He's up and busy tweeting this morning about 'massive voter fraud' again.

You wonder if people are going to get bored by his repeated claims - so he needs to go 'bigger' to keep people on side.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/11/2020 14:45

On and on and on it goes but guess who'll be waking up in the Executive Residence in the WH in exactly 2 month's time? (Clue: it won't be the Trumps)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 21/11/2020 14:48

Ooh, ooh!

CBS confirms: Ivanka subpoenaed for civil and criminal NY probes. Key to note many foreign money cases begin with fraud on taxes, a loan application, etc. If money is illicit, it requires layers of lies to hide its origin. Manafort case worked this way.
www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-investigating-trump-tax-write-offs-ivanka/

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lionheart · 21/11/2020 14:54

www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/ivanka-trump-donald-trump-tax-fraud?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=vanity-fair&utm_social-type=earned

'mong the many consequences of Donald Trump losing the election to Joe Biden is the fact that Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner will likely do everything they can to reenter polite society, which will likely slam the door in their faces. Oh, sure, as a source put it to my colleague Emily Jane Fox, they’ll “probably be welcomed by real estate types and that group of Upper East Side and Palm Beach families that read about themselves in Quest magazine but don’t matter,” but the people whose opinions the couple actually care about will presumably have lost their numbers. Also probably at the top of Javanka’s mind are the billboards circling Trump Tower reminding passersby about their role in the COVID-19 crisis, which they really, really don‘t appreciate. But seemingly the most pressing issue keeping the first daughter up at night is the prospect of her father going to prison, if her unusually huffy response to the news that he’s being investigated for tax fraud is any indication.'

BruceAndNosh · 21/11/2020 15:00

It's reassuring that despite pressure from Trump and the GOP, there are some decent Republicans who will respect the electoral result even if it means certifying a Biden win. As it should be.

NurseButtercup · 21/11/2020 15:09

It is interesting to me Fox is breaking ranks, especially when it is clear their customers are going to go elsewhere for news.

There'll be a commercial reason for this no doubt. But I wonder what they're betting on.

Rupert Murdoch will have his eye on the share price and I understand it has been falling. I cannot recall my source so please don't quote me!

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 21/11/2020 15:39

@lionheart

www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/11/ivanka-trump-donald-trump-tax-fraud?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=onsite-share&utm_brand=vanity-fair&utm_social-type=earned

'mong the many consequences of Donald Trump losing the election to Joe Biden is the fact that Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner will likely do everything they can to reenter polite society, which will likely slam the door in their faces. Oh, sure, as a source put it to my colleague Emily Jane Fox, they’ll “probably be welcomed by real estate types and that group of Upper East Side and Palm Beach families that read about themselves in Quest magazine but don’t matter,” but the people whose opinions the couple actually care about will presumably have lost their numbers. Also probably at the top of Javanka’s mind are the billboards circling Trump Tower reminding passersby about their role in the COVID-19 crisis, which they really, really don‘t appreciate. But seemingly the most pressing issue keeping the first daughter up at night is the prospect of her father going to prison, if her unusually huffy response to the news that he’s being investigated for tax fraud is any indication.'

Does anyone know where I could see those billboards online, please? I googled and all I could find was "Trump's Death Clock", which was on Times Square in May, but doesn't seem to be there any more.
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 21/11/2020 15:48

I think her father going to prison may be less of a worry for Ivanka than the possibility that she and her husband may go to prison. I hope there are good guardians in place for their children. (Honest, moral or ethical ones might be too much to hope for.)

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