Figures Don’t Lie, But Liars Do Figure (Trump thread #114)

[TheNorthWestPawsage]

Enough already! Delusional, depraved, but DEFEATED. We may have to wait until Jan 20th but 45 will be GONE. McConnell is next...

Previous thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4076183-Donald-has-barricaded-himself-in-the-WH-and-we-have-Georgia-on-our-minds-Trump-thread-113

To be fair, I think it's more likely that he will move out quietly, and leave the house empty for the 20th. I'll be very surprised if he is there to receive Biden as Obama did in 2017. Or at the inauguration, for that matter.

But, then, he can surprise.

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom

Thank you, *@AcrossthePond55*, I really appreciate your perspective as a US voter on this. The replies by people who had voted for him on Biden's thread asking for money on Twitter were very different from yours, in the main. I take your points but feel that Biden will lose support because of his being forced by Trump into taking this approach. That Emily woman is a little shit, isn't she☹️

As far as people who don't approve making posts remember that it's normally the 'complainers' who post. Those who approve will just make donations without comment. Add into that the possibility of Trump-trolls posting complaints to try and make people think Biden is doing the 'wrong thing' by asking for help.

Not everyone will approve of everything Joe does even if they did vote for him. And that goes for the next 4 years, not just the transition fundraising.

@Lweji

To be fair, I think it's more likely that he will move out quietly, and leave the house empty for the 20th. I'll be very surprised if he is there to receive Biden as Obama did in 2017. Or at the inauguration, for that matter.

But, then, he can surprise.

I agree. He's too much a coward to really make a scene and risk being frogmarched out or otherwise making his leaving into the embarrassing personal spectacle of being escorted out.

I think he'll either slink away during the inauguration thinking that all eyes will be on the Capitol or he'll do a Nixon-esque farewell 'salute' whilst boarding Marine One to an invited superspreader crowd waving hankies through their infectious tears during the inauguration to try and upstage it. Either way I hope the Bidens realize they'll need to count the silver and check the draperies for prawns that evening.

But seriously, I'm sure there is a lot of shredding going on. And I'm meaning important documents and papers/manuals/SOP books that are important to the running of the Country, not just incriminating documents.

According to the New York Times:

New York AG Letitia James has 67 (civil) indictments on Trump ready to be unsealed this January 21st.

But seriously, I'm sure there is a lot of shredding going on. And I'm meaning important documents and papers/manuals/SOP books that are important to the running of the Country, not just incriminating documents.

Didn't he do that routinely during his Presidency? I remember it being reported at some point that he threw every written piece of paper in the bin.

I cannot myself see much relationship between Trump and a president who was notable for being a formidable policymaker, honesty, probity, integrity, being a good leader, adherence to his morals, and defying party boundaries.

In fact I think one might have to look far to find more diametric opposites!

(The article said someone was going to have to have a look at how Grover Cleveland managed to be re-elected after a gap.)

Not everyone will approve of everything Joe does even if they did vote for him.

But as we know, nuance was outlawed years ago. Hence the black/white; up/down; yes/no world we have to live in.

Remember any hint of disagreeing with Brexit immediately led to accusations that you must approve of everything the EU has ever done or will ever do unconditionally. Or you weren't voting Labour to keep the Tories out. You were doing it to pass the time until your subscription to "Jew Hating Monthly" arrived. And so on. And you were being accused of that by Tories. Who print "Jew Hating Monthly", along with it's sister publication I'm not a racist but.... and "It's what they stand for ..."

I thought that the head of the GSA was seeking another job post-Trump. Surely there's a democratic business owner who could find their way to making an offer .....

Lweji
I remember it being reported at some point that he threw every written piece of paper in the bin.

Yes, and until some time this year there was a room full of people whose job it was to take his shredded correspondence and memos and tape them back together, since it's a legal requirement that everything the President reads or writes while in office has to be preserved.

But as we know, nuance was outlawed years ago. Hence the black/white; up/down; yes/no world we have to live in.

So so true

@SugarbabyMilly

But as we know, nuance was outlawed years ago. Hence the black/white; up/down; yes/no world we have to live in.

So so true

However if you want nuance, it's clear that not every single person who voted for a Republican candidate as senator or congressperson voted for Trump as President. Which is a nuance that is possible in the US (whether anyone takes any notice is another matter) that is denied us in the UK. Sadly our president (because that is exactly what Johnson is) can't be separated from the government.

@Roussette

From Melania... 'We unveiled Isamu Noguchi's Floor Frame sculpture in the Rose Garden *@WhiteHouse* yesterday. The art piece is humble in scale, complements the authority of the Oval Office, & represents the important contributions of Asian American artists'

Bearing in mind I haven't got an artistic bone in my body, the sculpture sums up for me the state of this Administration at the moment.
Broken. Fallen over. Needs repairing.

Her tweet is 3 pictures of her and just one of the actual sculpture which I'm sure in art circles is wonderful but it is just a photo op for her

I very much like modern art. But what a pretentious load of meaningless shit from Melania .

Newsmax, Once a Right-Wing Also-Ran, Is Rising, and Trump Approves
nyti.ms/2IWF4dG

Fascinating- including the very odd link to Bill Clinton

Isamu Noguchi's

Sorry, I really can't shake thinking about the Nakatomi plaza ...

Anyone else think Melania knows full well that that art piece looks like someone dropped it and that represents the important contributions of Asian American artists is a sly dig at Kamala Harris? Or am I overthinking this?

@BruceAndNosh

Anyone else think Melania knows full well that that art piece looks like someone dropped it and that represents the important contributions of Asian American artists is a sly dig at Kamala Harris? Or am I overthinking this?

I'm thinking any art would be lost on his fan base no matter what it looked like.

Well, there's "The Art of the Deal"?

Did anyone catch Jenna Ellis (elite squad lawyer) tweeting "MicroPenis. Sad" to some comedian who called her twitter account one of the best Parody accounts around?

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom

Well, there's "The Art of the Deal"?

And the entire Trump Presidency has been Emperor's New Clothes

@Lweji

But seriously, I'm sure there is a lot of shredding going on. And I'm meaning important documents and papers/manuals/SOP books that are important to the running of the Country, not just incriminating documents.

Didn't he do that routinely during his Presidency? I remember it being reported at some point that he threw every written piece of paper in the bin.

Personal papers, yes.

But I'm mainly talking about manuals and papers that are necessary to the smooth running of the Govt. Kinda like moving into a house to find that out of pure spite the previous tenant (who was evicted) has shredded the operating manuals and warranty papers for the fridge, cooker, the thermostat, the boiler, the property boundaries, the sprinklers, etc. You know, all the things needed for the smooth running of a home.

Hopefully there are some WH employees who have backed up all that stuff. And that having been VP, some of it is probably already familiar to him.

I hope I’ve done this Twitter link right, but GOP Gov v’s Trump ouch!!!

twitter.com/govlarryhogan/status/1330581894841430017?s=21

Surely to God the US Government is not run on a single-point-of-failure basis that relies on one computer or bit of paper not being accidentally destroyed!

@BruceAndNosh

Anyone else think Melania knows full well that that art piece looks like someone dropped it and that represents the important contributions of Asian American artists is a sly dig at Kamala Harris? Or am I overthinking this?

Typically here the term 'Asian' refers to people from the geographical area traditionally thought of as the 'Far East'. It's not common here to refer to someone from India as 'Asian', they would be referred to as 'Indian''. Same for the traditionally 'Middle Eastern' countries. We don't typically refer to them as 'Asian', they're 'Middle Eastern' or less commonly 'Arabic'.

Larry Hogan (R-MD) on CNN:

“I thought the pressuring of the legislators to try to somehow change the outcome with electors was completely outrageous.... Now we are beginning to look like we are a banana republic... I'm embarrassed that more people in the party aren't speaking up.”

edition.cnn.com/2020/11/22/politics/chris-christie-donald-trump-election/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_content=2020-11-22T20%3A33%3A01&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_medium=social

'A staunch ally of Donald Trump said Sunday it was time for the President to end his futile gambit to overturn the results of the election.

Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Trump has failed to provide any evidence of fraud, that his legal team was in shambles and that it's time to put the country first.'