to be proud to be Irish - Biden reportedly wants The Chieftains for his inauguration.

[Shuddawuddacudda]

www.irishcentral.com/culture/entertainment/joe-biden-irish-band-chieftains-inauguration?fbclid=IwAR2hHpONAH86n_voO69ZwFK8gooFuU8rByZQnbMGXIDU4_w43_zQVggfPGU

'Reported by media'.

Good to know whose corner he's in.... Only the other day, Sky News were gloating that Boris got a phonecall from Biden before Ireland lol.

I think Obama was a fan of The High Kings too. Might have had them at Paddy's Day or something at the WH.

Big honour for The Chieftains if true!

That's really interesting. I suppose I am a bit cynical and feel he may be using it to his advantage for the Irish American and Catholic vote, but then, as you say, if this is normal stateside, then that's OK.

I have no axe to grind by the way. I am half Italian and Catholic, and although I love visiting Italy, and all my relatives, and spent many month long holidays there as a child, I wouldn't really call myself of Italian extraction, although technically half Italian, as I was born in the UK, and DM (Italian) came here when she was only 17.

My maternal grandmother's sister emigrated to the US about 80 years ago I'm guessing? She used to come home approximately every 4 years with her children and eventually grandchildren. Said grandchild is now married to guess what? An Irish fella. Hoping to come over to the mothership next year (Covid permitting).

We are the BEST!🇮🇪

I think it's hard for non Americans/ non New Worlders to understand the obsession of your ethnic background in America. People always ask what are you, what's your heritage. Even if your family's been in America generations.

I'm American with a surname that starts "Mc.....". My whole life- oh, you're Scottish then?! Erm, maybe one ancestor many generations back.

I think it's something you wouldn't get unless you came from emigrant Irish ancestors.

I always wonder about this. I was born & raised in London to Irish parents. They were the only members of their family to emigrate so I had a very Irish upbringing with lots of visits to Dublin each yr as that was the only way of seeing my big family, catholic schools etc, parents were part of the local Irish community. I don't feel my children who were born in London have the same experience & connection as I did at all.

Also, my American best friend, who has two Italian parents, is American. Not Italian. She also has two adopted Chinese children, and they are American too. Interesting isn't it.

[quote Laiste]**@Baaaahhhhh

Odd isn't it. It seems to me that many Americans go to a lot of effort to be considered as something other than 'just' American.[/quote]
I'm an emigrant and I 100% see myself as Irish and nothing else. Maybe it's something peculiar to the Irish. One stereotype is that programme Blue Bloods - proud American family but Irish to the core.

[quote Laiste]**@Baaaahhhhh

Odd isn't it. It seems to me that many Americans go to a lot of effort to be considered as something other than 'just' American.[/quote]
Why wouldn't I be considered just American? I'm not just American. I'm Irish and American and have both passports to prove it

He is 5/8ths Irish and of the generation that remember getting a load of shit for being Irish. But tbh I do think he overplays it. Equally if it means he uses his influence to ensure peace in Ireland isn't jeopardised by boris and his cunty pals I'm all for it. ádh mór air

His mother was born to two Irish parents. So she was 100% Irish

So Im 100% then, DH would be 50% (irish mother, english father). What are our kids?

@hennybeans that's really interesting. Why is it do you think?

I find it strange that America appears such a patriotic country while at the same time so many are desperate for 'roots' elsewhere. The patriotism is something i'm quite envious of to be clear. To be proud of your country. Like the French.

I'm generalising i know. And i think i'm being clumsy but i hope i'm making sense.

Each child get's 50% of your descent. So I am 50% Italian, 50% English, DH 100% English, DC's are 25% Italian, 75% English.

Kirtainwoz. Your DC's will be 75% Irish.

@Shuddawuddacudda...Its not a stereotype. Ots real. Places like NYC and especially Boston their Fire Departments and Police Departments are mainly Irish Catholic. They took those jobs after first immigrating and the tradition withstands. Boston in particular still jas a lot of Irish immigration and many Irish Americans in that city still talk with an Irish accent. They have great fun with me. My accent is Irish and Southern twang.The funny part is I'm first generation Irish American. Meaning I was the first and only family member born in the States to 2 Irish immigrants.

thanks @Baaaahhhhh am I right in thinking their dc can't get Irish passports.

@ImperfectTents

He is 5/8ths Irish and of the generation that remember getting a load of shit for being Irish. But tbh I do think he overplays it. Equally if it means he uses his influence to ensure peace in Ireland isn't jeopardised by boris and his cunty pals I'm all for it. ádh mór air

Absolutely....People seem to forget that the KKK had issues with more people than African Americans. In the mod eighties crosses were burned in my yard 3 different times because my parents were Irish AND Catholic. In fact JFK was worried he wouldn't win the Presidency due to his Irish Catholic roots. I remember as a little girl I would see signs in the UK Irish need not apply in the UK. I also saw them in the States

Places like NYC and especially Boston their Fire Departments and Police Departments are mainly Irish Catholic.

Ed Byrne has a gag about not being able to throw a stone in New York without hitting an Irishman ... and if you don't you'll be arrested by one ...

@kurtainwoz- I'd imagine you'd get them through your parents and your children through their Irish grandparents? Open to correction.

@Shuddawuddacudda that's correct -- one Irish grandparent is enough to pass citizenship.

My DH was born in the UK to two 100% Irish parents. He took citizenship through his parents but because he is UK born he could not pass it on. Our DC have citizenship through their grandparents instead.

@Baaaahhhhh

Each child get's 50% of your descent. So I am 50% Italian, 50% English, DH 100% English, DC's are 25% Italian, 75% English.

Kirtainwoz. Your DC's will be 75% Irish.

I am a 100 percent Irish even though I was born in US. My kids are 50 percent Irish,25 percent Mexican and 25 percent German. Only 1 of my children are eligible for a UK passport due to being born in Cambridge instead of on base. If he was born on base he would not be considered a dual citizen We are considered dual citizenship. My other 3 children are not. Taxes are a nightmare. I have to pay taxes in both countries

I find this irish pride puzzling too. English of Irish origin don’t have this sense of pride. Is it because of the IRA? I grew up in the 80/90s and there was a sense of shame more than pride. Jokes about Irish accents and bombings.

My great grandad was born near Biden’s Irish family, plus lots of other Irish ancestors from elsewhere who came to England during the famine. Others went to America. We’re contacted regularly by American relations wanting to reconnect with their Irish roots. It’s a shame we don’t have the same sentiment in England.

@DGRossetti

Places like NYC and especially Boston their Fire Departments and Police Departments are mainly Irish Catholic.

Ed Byrne has a gag about not being able to throw a stone in New York without hitting an Irishman ... and if you don't you'll be arrested by one ...

That is incredibly true. I got pulled over in Hell's Kitchen,NYC and they thought I was drunk. Because for a minute there I couldn't tell if I was in Dublin(due to their accents) and because they couldn't understand my accent being a mixture of Irish and Southern American

@Shastabeast

I find this irish pride puzzling too. English of Irish origin don’t have this sense of pride. Is it because of the IRA? I grew up in the 80/90s and there was a sense of shame more than pride. Jokes about Irish accents and bombings.

My great grandad was born near Biden’s Irish family, plus lots of other Irish ancestors from elsewhere who came to England during the famine. Others went to America. We’re contacted regularly by American relations wanting to reconnect with their Irish roots. It’s a shame we don’t have the same sentiment in England.

It was something to be ashamed of in England for sure. Not so much now though, or maybe they're taking the piss behind my back, but I don't find too much anti-Irish sentiment - overtly at least.

@Shastabeast

I find this irish pride puzzling too. English of Irish origin don’t have this sense of pride. Is it because of the IRA? I grew up in the 80/90s and there was a sense of shame more than pride. Jokes about Irish accents and bombings.

My great grandad was born near Biden’s Irish family, plus lots of other Irish ancestors from elsewhere who came to England during the famine. Others went to America. We’re contacted regularly by American relations wanting to reconnect with their Irish roots. It’s a shame we don’t have the same sentiment in England.

I just need time to get back to Co. Cork. Everytime I'm in the UK I get tied up seeing my son and DIL,taking care of property issues, and going to Wales to see my mom and Nan. I always seem to run out of time. Thats why I said he had stronger ties to Ireland than me even though I'm a hundred percent Irish

@Shuddawuddacudda...I see it frequently in West Virginia and I'm pretty positive Biden saw it in Pennsylvania growing up. American miners didn't want Irish miners taking their jobs. 3 crosses burned in my yard...

British born to Irish parents and very much hold firmly and closely to my Irish roots and passports with a huge amount of pride. Proud of my parents and grandparents and the struggles in Birmingham over the years, equally proud of our parade in Birmingham and the heritage we still hold firmly in the city.

Joe is of Irish heritage and good for being proud of that ... Maybe President Elect Joe can spare some of his good luck and Mayo can get Sam this year too☺️🇮🇪