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OBSESSION with Xmas

110 replies

ODFODXmas · 15/11/2020 15:14

I hate Xmas. I really do. I always have. I don’t have a single happy Xmas memory from childhood and a lot of unhappy things have happened at that time of year for me. I’d rather opt out of the entire thing, such is the dislike. I’m atheist, so don’t do any of the religious stuff. I quite like celebrating the winter solstice (an actual thing) and tend to follow the pagan celebrations with a tree and nice food. Don’t go overboard with presents or anything else. I’m more than happy for other people to love Xmas. I revel in the joy they have for it. I just don’t want to do it myself. A bit like running or eating kale.

The same doesn’t work in reverse though. Every year I’m made to feel like a pariah for not wanting to talk about Xmas from September, arrange various secret Santas in October, not wearing a Xmas jumper every Friday from August, not having Xmas bedding or tea towels or a 47 course Xmas dinner menu planned in February.

Were I jewish or Jehovah’s Witness it wouldn’t happen. There would be a religious/cultural understanding.

Why is it not just okay to not get involved? Why don’t they just leave me alone? I’ve asked enough bloody time. Xmas isn’t happy for everyone, just as not everyone likes sprouts. 🤷🏻‍♀️

(This is mainly colleagues and friends but also some family.)

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Royalbloo · 15/11/2020 19:17

No one discusses Christmas with me - if they do it's just a, "Looking forward to it?, or a, "What are you doing for Christmas?" That's it. Hardly difficult to traverse...smile and say anything you like.

ODFODXmas · 15/11/2020 19:19

@Royalbloo

No one discusses Christmas with me - if they do it's just a, "Looking forward to it?, or a, "What are you doing for Christmas?" That's it. Hardly difficult to traverse...smile and say anything you like.
Did you read the thread?
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Royalbloo · 15/11/2020 19:21

Can't you just leave the chat? Or ignore it? Sounds like they're trying to wind you up and it's working?

Royalbloo · 15/11/2020 19:22

I'm not sure telling them it's stolen is helpful

Royalbloo · 15/11/2020 19:23

Do you, I mean.

Royalbloo · 15/11/2020 19:23

*For you apologies

Gwenhwyfar · 15/11/2020 19:25

"Which is precisely why I use Xmas. Given it has bugger all, in reality, with anyone’s birth. grin"

The x is for Christ so I don't understand this at all.

firesong · 15/11/2020 19:32

Wow, I haven't had anyone going on about Xmas to me. I like Xmas, in theory, but not yet. From December onwards it's fun. But nobody needs to go overboard if they don't want to.

goose1964 · 15/11/2020 19:33

Would you like to celebrate my non denominational midwinter festival? As we're spread out over the country it lasts from the last weekend in November until 12th night. My mum loved Christmas and my dad, a junior school teacher, was fed up of it from the start of the school holidays. Do what
you want and ignore other peoples. Mind you we used to have a manage who wasn't into Christmas and one day some of the staff came in early to decorate her office with sheep and black and white mints. The theme baa humbug. She took in in the right vein and distributed the humbugs around the office.

Plussizejumpsuit · 15/11/2020 19:37

Your colleagues friends and family seem ott. But equally you're coming across as hard work. For example Oh, I do. I gently remind them how pretty much all of it was stolen (violently) from others.

I find it hard to believe you're not exaggerating. I think the things where they're just discussing it in your presence or sharing photos of Christmas stuff you need to get over yourself. You don't get to dwcide what other people take about or share in group messages. Acting like you do comes across as really grumpy.

But the things where they are trying to 'convert' you is just strange. They obviously enjoy irritating you. I wonder from your thread if they also find you hard work? Either way you need to say firmly but clearly it has to stop.

ODFODXmas · 15/11/2020 19:38

@Royalbloo

I'm not sure telling them it's stolen is helpful
After continuous provocation I think it’s pretty relevant that the thing they hold so dear has such nefarious origins.
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SchrodingersImmigrant · 15/11/2020 19:40

Yeah. They are foing it to get reaction from you and they know they will. It's childish though.

And I agree with @geekone

kleanex · 15/11/2020 19:42

I bloody dread Christmas every year. Having kids makes it worse because before kids I could bloody avoid it (and I can't bear to disappoint them). So it's full of expectations of something amazing that never happens - it's all a bit if a disappointment while I have spent time shopping, for things that no one needs or wants and the wrapping!!!!! and cooking, well I like the cooking - last year I just had enough - why was I doing all the bloody prep when I was the one who hated the festival. Every year I love January - so far away from bloody Christmas.

Adoptthisdogornot · 15/11/2020 19:47

Oh God they sound like dickheads. I think I would really lose my temper with the constant snide comments. Maybe try and guilt them? Say for reasons you'd rather not go into, Christmas and the frivolous jollity around it remind you of some pretty awful past trauma. You don't want to discuss it, but the least you expect from your colleagues is that they treat you with respect and stop harassing you about it. And if they don't take it up with hr. As well as being deeply fucking tedious and unprofessional, if they know it is upsetting you and continue to do it, its outright bullying.

Royalbloo · 15/11/2020 19:50

It's silly of them but it's equally silly of you to react. Tell them you're Jewish if you really want to shut them up and then threaten to report to HR. Unless you work for Labour? I think part of this is them starting it and then you're just adding kindling to the fire.

Blonde87 · 15/11/2020 19:58

Completely understandable why you hate Christmas as it was rubbish for you as a child, would it help a bit if you started your own Christmas traditions and joined in a bit? I'm shit at advice about things like this as I have amazing Christmas memories from being a child so I'm sorry if I've offended x

Blonde87 · 15/11/2020 19:59

Ps I hadn't read the full thread when I posted 🙈 I sound like a right twat now x

missmouse101 · 15/11/2020 20:02

Totally agree OP. I cant bear it all.

ODFODXmas · 15/11/2020 20:43

@Royalbloo

It's silly of them but it's equally silly of you to react. Tell them you're Jewish if you really want to shut them up and then threaten to report to HR. Unless you work for Labour? I think part of this is them starting it and then you're just adding kindling to the fire.
About half of them are HR. Sad
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ODFODXmas · 15/11/2020 20:44

@Blonde87

Completely understandable why you hate Christmas as it was rubbish for you as a child, would it help a bit if you started your own Christmas traditions and joined in a bit? I'm shit at advice about things like this as I have amazing Christmas memories from being a child so I'm sorry if I've offended x
It wasn’t just rubbish. It was traumatic. Several times over several years. And even those without specific trauma weren’t good. So my foundations around Xmas are awful. I can live with that. Apparently they can’t.
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ODFODXmas · 15/11/2020 20:45

I ignore as much as possible. But it’s part of our COVID comms. So I can’t leave/ignore the chat unfortunately.

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MoonJelly · 16/11/2020 08:59

Oh, I do. I gently remind them how pretty much all of it was stolen (violently) from others.

Well, there's part of your mistake. Whatever the rights and wrongs of our history, we didn't violently steal pagan or indeed Christian traditions from anyone. At worst we copied them..

ODFODXmas · 16/11/2020 09:04

And your evidence for that?

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DelphineWalsh · 16/11/2020 10:17

yanbu. We also don't celebrate christmas but we will take part in some winter solstice celebrations. When asked questions at work like "have you got your tree up yet" or "have you done all your christmas shopping?" I just tell them its not my holiday. But i wouldn't bother trying to correct or tell them what things I do for my traditions.

Bells3032 · 16/11/2020 10:20

YANBU christmas isn't for everyone but I am JEWISH and I still have people expecting me to go crazy for christmas including my DH's jewish family. I never celebrated it, I honestly don't care - I like the pretty lights and crappy netflix christmas movies etc but that's about it