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AIBU?

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Entitled kid or normal 9 year old girl?

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Wildwitchofthewest · 14/11/2020 21:58

We live in Spain though we are Irish. My dd had a friend around last month and I don't know whether to continue to encourage the friendship. Dds friend is 8 nearly 9 and came across as critical of everything. When it came time to watch a film together she went on and on about wanting to watch a 15 film, despite me saying no. Then when it came to dinner she was really fussy asking for food I didn't have (I offered her 3 choices so it wasnt like I wasn't giving her options.). She then complained about about the type of cutlery I gave her as it was different to what she had at home. Then she complained I hadn't given her enough food and she usually had double the amount at home. So I gave her some extra bread, even though desert was still to come. Once desert arrived she complained and protested she didn't like chocolate cake. I offered to get her fruit instead. She changed her mind. Then ate 2 pieces of chocolate cake. When her mum arrived she encouraged my dd to lock my bedroom door and hide behind it. When it was time to leave I gave her a little wrapped up favour. Partly to get her out of the house. She would only accept it, she said, if she knew what it was. I said she would only get it when she was out of my bedroom and shoes on to meet her mum at the front door. AIBU not to encourage this friendship in the future?

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Bunnymumy · 14/11/2020 22:28

Technically cluster b personality disorders are formed in early childhood (nod, sociopathely ect) they just cant be diagnosed till 18. Just sayin.

I look back and there were totally...questionable kids that turned into just as bad adults.

I would encourage my child to choose friends who are kind and treat others kindly. And not to think they should excuse shitty behaviour from others.

Tbh though I'd probably just be like 'Your pal is an arsehole kiddo. Make better friends'. But maybe if theres a polite version of that lol.

Wildwitchofthewest · 14/11/2020 22:29

@LittleRa yes she refused to eat her food until I found her some cutlery like she had at home. She went on and on about it and stood up at the table repetitively complaining.

Anyway I guess I will chalk this up to experience. Hearing that this is a bit out of the range of normal. Is reassuring.

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Bunnymumy · 14/11/2020 22:29

*npd, sociopathy lol

Flutter12 · 14/11/2020 22:31

Oh wow she sounds very draining!

If your DD really likes her I would reluctantly let her come one more time to see if she was just overly excited or something but if she was the same I wouldn't let her around again.
Maybe next time take them to a park or something for a while so they are not in the house for as long.

PlanDeRaccordement · 14/11/2020 22:32

The cutlery thing sounds like ASD to me. That would explain too very blunt opinionated statements of “I don’t like x, I want y”.

CheetasOnFajitas · 14/11/2020 22:32

At 9, your daughter is probably also likely to have realised her “friend” was rude and annoying. Have you asked her if she wants the girl to come back again? You might find the decision is made for you!

(FWIW I would be trying my best not to encourage the friendship. How do you find the Mum?)

EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 14/11/2020 22:33

she sounds like a spoilt brattish monster - but when I lived in Spain briefly a few years ago, most of the children seemed overindulged and a rule unto themselves.
English friends living there with children though to so - it wasn;t just me.

ilikebooksandplants · 14/11/2020 22:34

Kid sounds really annoying and rude but a sociopath, @Bunnymumy really? Have you always been such a drama queen?

Re: the food, what did she ask for? The choices you gave her all sound quite shit if she isn’t used to eating ‘kid food’ (eg beige junk food) so I can kind of see her point there.

Wildwitchofthewest · 14/11/2020 22:38

The choices you gave her all sound quite shit

Well I don't think that's very fair.
She wanted a different kind of pizza with different toppings and that was all she would countenance.

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Flowerblue · 14/11/2020 22:40

Either she was feeling very uncomfortable with visiting, for some reason or she was just being plain rude. I used to give dds friends a little buffet type tea when they visited. If all else failed I would give toast.

FortunesFave · 14/11/2020 22:41

The choices you gave her all sound quite shit

So? The kid is old enough to be polite about a meal! A 4 year old might say "I don't like fish fingers" but at this age, the child can put up with ONE meal they're not keen on.

OP I have had the odd child like this...always shocks me. One child of TEN cried because I threw the mango seeds away without offering her them to suck. Confused She said "But I ALWAYS have them!"

How the feck was I to know that!?

AlwaysLatte · 14/11/2020 22:41

I thought ASD too. So may just be a case of getting to know her. Personally I wouldn't say no if your daughter really wanted to invite her back but I'd be saying gently to her mum that it be helpful to know what she likes to eat and if there is anything else specific. For a play date I usually ask what they don't eat and if there's anything specific that would help them along.

ShadyBansheeThing · 14/11/2020 22:42

She sounds bratty and rude, but maybe seeking boundaries? My DD has some friends who I find annoying, but none are that bad. But when I do encounter really entitled spoilt kids, I find they react well to me being pretty firm, in a matter of fact way (not a mean way). "No. In our house we have XYZ, take it or leave it." Or sometimes with a bit of humour, "Well, that's the only cutlery we have, so it's that or just eat it with your face like a horse, I guess." They usually stop as soon as they see it's going to have no effect on me.

So I wouldn't ditch her, I'd give her a chance but make it extra clear you're not engaging with silly demands and complaints. She might improve.

I would step in though if she was mean to your child or destructive, etc.

wasgoingmadinthecountry · 14/11/2020 22:44

Sounds like a rude brat to me. I'd assume if any ASD issues mum would have spoken to you about food etc

Are you friends with the mum? I would not have her back again. Can't stand rude children. I do however know the expat thing (luckily only for a very short while) of sometimes having to put up with the kids who are there.

Toddlerteaplease · 14/11/2020 22:44

Spoilt brat!

CocoPrivileges · 14/11/2020 22:45

Not sure why posters are falling over themselves to make excuses for what is clearly totally unacceptable behaviour...maybe that's why so many adults have somehow managed to grow up thinking rudeness is okay?

ShadyBansheeThing · 14/11/2020 22:47

Children I know with ASD are typically not rude and demanding like this. They may be blunt, but are usually consistent. Not saying she therefore doesn't have any SN, but I wouldn't see this behaviour as an indicator.

Flutter12 · 14/11/2020 22:47

Re: the food, what did she ask for? The choices you gave her all sound quite shit if she isn’t used to eating ‘kid food’ (eg beige junk food) so I can kind of see her point there.

The food OP offered her was typical kid food that you would find in any kids menu at a restaurant (because the majority of kids like it) so of course OP is going to offer her what most kids like to eat.

user1473878824 · 14/11/2020 22:47

“Re: the food, what did she ask for? The choices you gave her all sound quite shit if she isn’t used to eating ‘kid food’ (eg beige junk food) so I can kind of see her point there.”

No wonder you can see her point when you’re as rude as she is, @ilikebooksandplants.

WitchesBritchesPumpkinPants · 14/11/2020 22:48

Brat. would not entertain having her for another play date! DD could get her fill of her at school (or preferably not at all)

Blunt I can cope with
Fussy I can cope with

But that - nope!

user1473878824 · 14/11/2020 22:48

@CocoPrivileges It’s amazing isn’t it?!

AliceMck · 14/11/2020 22:49

Hhmmm interesting. I know a British family who moved to Spain this year and this sounds exactly like their overly indulged daughter. By this age children should understand basic manners while at someone else’s home. I won’t accept it in my home and if my DCs ever behaved like this I’d be mortified.

pilates · 14/11/2020 22:49

Spoilt brat and I wouldn’t rush to have her back

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mathanxiety · 14/11/2020 22:50

yes she refused to eat her food until I found her some cutlery like she had at home. She went on and on about it and stood up at the table repetitively complaining.

@Wildwitchofthewest
I had a kid like that visiting a few times (I was doing her mum a favour).

I stood straight up and said in my best Major-General tone of voice, "Nobody talks to me like that in my house". She changed her tune.

You can be very direct with kids who are visiting. Stand up to them.

@EveryDayIsADuvetDay
The OP's guest was a British child.

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