to think the Queen should refuse this gift?

[WitchesSpelleas]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54915124

"A committee of MPs and peers has been set up to choose a gift "fit" for the Queen to mark the 70th anniversary of her accession, in 2022.
Culture Secretary Oliver Dowden said it would be a "token of our respect". For her Diamond Jubilee in 2012, the Queen had a stained-glass window created for her in Westminster Hall."

The Queen has everything she could possibly need, and the money to buy anything she could want.

This gift will be funded by donations from MPs - of course, it's up to them how they want to spend their money - but at a time when so many of her subjects are struggling financially due to the impact of Covid19, I think it would be appropriate for the Queen to ask the MPs to make a donation to a UK charity instead of spending the money on a Platinum Jubilee gift.

Oh spare me the her maj been through so much.oh what she’s endured speech @libraries

and,.. OP the Queen has doen more for chairty than any other Monarch in history

The queen also volunteers to pay tax on her personal wealth, she doesn't actually have to.

@stillsomewhatsheldonesque

I have been in the position of having to scrabble for change down the sofa. A long time ago now but I remember it well.

It is such a rare event and she has served us well. She deserves it to be marked in such a beautiful way.

I took her shilling back in the day. She would be welcome to it back and the cost of my beans. And when I was my most skint, she would have still been welcome to it.

It will be marked, her staff will make her a cake, her family will buy her gifts and much gin will be consumed.

@00100001

and also throwing money at "poor people" won't solve the problems they face.... jsyk.

I am not suggesting it would solve problems. I'm suggesting it might offer some alleviation. Suppose the gift costs £100,000. Do you think any charity would turn down a donation of £100,000 because it wouldn't be enough to completely solve the problems of the people they were helping?

I’ve just told dh if I ever win the euro millions I’m buying myself a real diamond tiara.

Oh, HELL, ya! I haunt Sotheby's jewelry auctions to pick out the one I'll buy someday.

slothtrot

I will quite happily make myself a cake and eat it all and drink copious amounts of gin to celebrate along with her.

I will have to sleep where I fall though as I have no staff to pour me into my bed to sleep it off.

@00100001

but in comparison to the poorest people, you ARE extraordinarily wealthy.

Think of an 8yo living in a slum, sharing a room with 12 other familiy members, having to rummage through a rubbish pit finding things to sell on the streets. You're FABULOUSLY wealthy... so why aren't you refusing gifts and diverting your money to them? hmm??

If you want Queenie to step up, then step up yourself.

Well, I don't really get any gifts to divert! That isn't a 'poor old me' comment, I just don't have a large family or any friends I am on gift-exchanging terms with. And as I've said, I do give to charity when I can afford to.

What about a Parker Pen, you can get them engraved.

@TidyOmlette

As long as it’s genuinely funded by MP’s and not classed as an ‘expense’ of some kind then let them. I agree the money could be put to better use though

Rishi will be going round all MP’s with his brown envelope to collect the monies and a big card for everyone to sign...” but only if you put money in Boris!”

@SentientAndCognisant

Oh spare me the her maj been through so much.oh what she’s endured speech *@libraries*

well, she has been through a lot.

Just because she's wealthy, doesn't make her suffering any less.

imagine your daughter had this happen to her:

13 years old, living in London during a world war, often having to hide in bomb shelters at all hours and one night a bomb actually hits your house.

she now turns 14 and is expected to make a speech to be listened to globally. and that speech is to make people feel better.

now shes 16 year old, and is now made a grenadier

she turns 18 and now she has the power to act in pace of the current monarch in their absence.

she saves her rations for her wedding dress.

she;s now mid to late 20s, her sister is discovered to have an affiar with someone wholly in appropriate, and it now falls to your daughter to be the one to say they cannot marry.

she must watch as her children's marriages fall apart.

her son is accused paedophile.

she watches her grandson shun everything that the family have worked hard for.

but noooo, she has no feelings, because MONEY MAKES IT ALL BETTER

YABU.

I hope its a bloody big statue of her at 96 somewhere prominent in London to even up the balance of male female stautes. She has kept the show on the road for an impressively long time, she is a might woman. I would also like a statue of Maggie t.
I am not particularly a royalist or a tory either! Just think these are high profile string women to be remembered good and bad.

Not sure why the average person does not realise in these sorts of threads, that the royal family is a net contributor to public finances to the tune of several hundred millions pounds every single year. Thats quite apart from them being literally the only thing that puts us on the map so to speak for tourist GDP every year of several billion pounds.

Of course there will be shit loads of money spent on commemorative objects and events. It's hardly causing anyone to starve is it, quite the opposite in fact.

@Idontgiveagriffindamn

But it’s not a gift for the queen really. It’s a gift for the nation and a permanent reminder of a very rare event.

Exactly

and the queen is patron of thousands of charities that do work, it;s estimated that her patronage has helped raise billions.

Just because she's wealthy, doesn't make her suffering any less

I agree no amount of wealth can eliminate the emotional pain that can be caused by family troubles.

But many people have to cope with family divorces, criminals in the family, being disowned by relatives etc. - but the average person will have financial concerns on top of all this, the need to hold down a job, the worry, perhaps, that they will lose their job because they've had to take time off to deal with all that. The average person will have to keep their house in a reasonable state, make sure their family is fed, perhaps cope with a broken boiler or a leaky roof, on top of their emotional turmoil.

The Queen was never going to be homeless during the war because she'd been bombed out - unlike many of her citizens.

So, yes, she has had her troubles but she has been cushioned from having to survive, keep a roof over her head, put food on the table, while dealing with the emotional impact.

@dontwantamirena
Cringe. This has "I am very smart" written all over it.

No, not at all. But it was written to note how much the OP doesn't think anything artistically or archaeologically doesn't have merit unless she believes it does, which she went on to state to several other posters.

At this point she's being a GF or doesn't value anything other than food or shelter for everybody including people she doesn't even know.

I think she's also known around the Coronavirus boards as well...

@laudemio

I hope its a bloody big statue of her at 96 somewhere prominent in London to even up the balance of male female stautes. She has kept the show on the road for an impressively long time, she is a might woman. I would also like a statue of Maggie t. I am not particularly a royalist or a tory either! Just think these are high profile string women to be remembered good and bad.

That won't be until after her death.

Rumour is that it'll be on the fourth plinth in Trafalgar Square, which is the shape for an equestrian statue. So I'm hoping for a representational statue of her in her prime, riding Burma in the uniform she wore for Trooping the Colour

I hope its a bloody big statue of her at 96 somewhere prominent in London to even up the balance of male female statues

Will she be in the nude like the recent statue of Mary Wollstonecraft?

How about the Queen marks her anniversary by handing bsck the money she was given to bail her out and all cos her investments not making much. Well I'm not earning much interest on savings like i see to can I get a bailout please .

How out of touch do you have to be. Get rid of all of them. Sickening! That money could of been used for so many more good causes

That's an awful lot of outrage over something that doesn't even exist yet.

I think the Queen has been a huge asset and a stained glass window is a great way to acknowledge her work, sacrifice and devotion to the country. I also think planting a forest is a lovely idea but more suited to Charles I think.

I'm rather worried at the announcement of the celebrations in June 2022 already though.

@WitchesSpelleas

Yes, mark the anniversary by all means, but why with a gift? The Royal Family has many charities within its patronage - why not make a donation to, say, the Prince's Trust?

Are you for real? 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️ It’s a small but memorable gift to our Monarch for her 70 years of service

But it was written to note how much the OP doesn't think anything artistically or archaeologically doesn't have merit unless she believes it does, which she went on to state to several other posters.

Please tell me where I have said that?

I think she's also known around the Coronavirus boards as well...

I don't think my fame has spread that far. I've made the occasional post on Coronavirus topics, but nothing that's attracted much attention. I think you may be confusing me with another poster.