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To feel sorry for Melania...

265 replies

LoganRoy · 07/11/2020 23:59

... having to look sad in front of Donald and hide her champagne party for one when inside she’s thinking PRAISE THE LORD! I can get out of here!

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Sparklesocks · 08/11/2020 14:58

She wasn’t held against her will.
She knew what he was and who she was marrying.
She chose this. So no I don’t feel sorry for her.

viques · 08/11/2020 15:02

@GrimDamnFanjo

Did Melania instigate anything as flotus? I can recall many initiatives from previous incumbents but not from her?
She promoted an anti bullying campaign called Be Best.
MoonJelly · 08/11/2020 15:28

So what was the relevance of Biden's daughter, then, @Mummyoflittledragon?

MoonJelly · 08/11/2020 15:29

I actually feel sorry for Ivanka. She seems like a decent human being and must be horribly embarrassed at how her father is behaving

As an adult, it is open to her to disown what her father says and does, or at the very least to distance herself from him. She does neither.

MoonJelly · 08/11/2020 15:34

@ancientgran

You don't think that could have anything to do with having lost his own daughter as a baby? I've always thought that, and he's a hugger anyway. It is difficult, I don't like being hugged and like my personal space but I don't jump to the conclusion that people who are huggers are creepy, they are just different to me.
Agreed. He does seem to be normally quite tactile. Have a look at these, for instance:
longwayoff · 08/11/2020 15:35

She's his KGB minder isn't she? What else could possibly explain her presence? Looks like her assignments up. And failed.

longwayoff · 08/11/2020 15:36

What? Anti bullying? Hmm.

MorganKitten · 08/11/2020 15:36

Nope, she knew what came with her contract. Also she couldn’t care less about the children in cages.

FixItUpChappie · 08/11/2020 15:42

I really can't stand the "save Melania"/poor Melania sentiment. She is not a helpless victim just because she is a woman Hmm. She stands by him and that is all she needs to tell me about herself.

Janegrey333 · 08/11/2020 15:43

She promoted an anti bullying campaign called Be Best.

Really? She should have had a head start in that endeavour given that she lived under the same roof as the ultimate bully.

Clearly she is unaware of the irony.

Harriedharriet · 08/11/2020 15:52

@Tellmetruth4

I’m not ‘riled up’ or ‘jealous’ (as if!) at all. Like it or not the US election is the biggest news story and anything connected to it will also be a story. She’s the FLOTUS married to probably the most controversial POTUS who’s just lost his job. People will be interested in her as she is a bit of an enigma.
I am not convinced of the enigma quality. To me she is a fairly easy read - she really enjoys a luxurious life, status, she loves expensive clothes, hair styles, handbags, drivers, etc, and more than likely really enjoys the "status" of being the younger wife. All of which is allowed - choice right? I think people misread the batting away of his hands things. It always happens when he is about to wreak the photo. He goes for her hand when walking down the steps of the plane (with wind about to blow up her skirt) or when she is walking off stage (in extremely high heals) and he will ruin that power walk photo, and so on. Grin
Fangtasia2020 · 08/11/2020 16:32

Zero fucks given to her. She will land on her feet whatever the outcome. Shame she married such a cunt in the first place.

Doobiedooo · 08/11/2020 18:35

@Janegrey333

She promoted an anti bullying campaign called Be Best.

Really? She should have had a head start in that endeavour given that she lived under the same roof as the ultimate bully.

Clearly she is unaware of the irony.

Funny! Even the title of the anti bullying campaign is delightfully telling.

Be best? Why?—isn’t “being best” (Ie the top dog) what bullies try to be by any means? If you are being bullied, you probably feel distress and shame, and are probably being pushed to bottom of the pecking order by the bully. The first step surely for an anti bullying campaign = to make children feel supported to speak up and get help and to know there is trust and safety to do so... advice to “Be best” is irrelevant for a child on the brink, I’d have thought.

Mummyoflittledragon · 08/11/2020 18:37

@MoonJelly

So what was the relevance of Biden's daughter, then, *@Mummyoflittledragon*?
I refer you back to my last comment. Leave me alone now please. It’s starting to look like bullying.
CatAndHisKit · 08/11/2020 21:39

How many other former escorts

That's just nasty of you! She wasn't an escort she was a fashion model.
Papers tried to dig dirt of course, but haven't succeeded, and they would have done many times over if there was any truth in it.

Fashion models earn well in the US, she was not short of work, so no motive for her - plus she is traditional and a stepford wife type, and this includes a 'no-no' atttitude to sex work/workers. It's one of the nastiest specualtions you can throw at any woman.

CatAndHisKit · 08/11/2020 21:50

Harriet exactly, she's allowed a choice (that thoisand American women go for - part of the cult of wealth and power) and imo they suit each other, he couldn't find nor want a feisty feminist wife, and she likes the comforts and stability, and don't forget he must have charisma if hes so popular with masses of people.

At least they were a good match a while, I would'nt be surprised if she will want to leave sooner or later.
He's going to be insufferably grumpy for a while now.

CatAndHisKit · 08/11/2020 21:50

*that thousands

Cosmos123 · 08/11/2020 21:58

She fully supports his racist, homophobic islamophobic rhetroic .
It was not a forced arranged marriage.
She had a choice.
Basically she provided herself as a prostitute.
She had the child to secure her income.
No doubt she has a signed a very good pre nup.
She will be incredibly wealthy forever.
I dont feel sorry for her but I do feel sorry for immigrant caged children separated from their parents.

Am I not normal for thinking like this?

StoneofDestiny · 08/11/2020 22:12

Cosmos123

Totally agree.
She knows the loathing he has for women and migrants - despite being a woman and a migrant, she sticks with him willingly.
She has got what she wants out of the relationship, money and 'position'.

Doobiedooo · 08/11/2020 23:07

Agreed. Note: he is also a bloody migrant. His forebears are recent in the USA, all said and done; albeit not as recent as his wife.

MoonJelly · 08/11/2020 23:24

I refer you back to my last comment. Leave me alone now please. It’s starting to look like bullying.

Asking a question to try to find out what you mean looks like bullying?

Or maybe using a totally unmerited accusation of bullying is deflection?

CatAndHisKit · 09/11/2020 02:56

he is also a bloody migrant
well yes, everyone is a sometime migrant in the US (bar a small minority of indigenous people from centuries ago). And some of these turned into a stereotypical US capitalist, like Trump.
He's been very vocal about which particular migrants he is anti, but it was his undoing as no US president can be anti (any) migrants in the country of such!

Mummyoflittledragon · 09/11/2020 03:30

@MoonJelly

I refer you back to my last comment. Leave me alone now please. It’s starting to look like bullying.

Asking a question to try to find out what you mean looks like bullying?

Or maybe using a totally unmerited accusation of bullying is deflection?

Deflection for what? I commented out of the tragedy, the man has a rainbow baby and you have hounded me ever since. I don’t know what your agenda is. But it certainly has nothing to do with me. Now please leave me alone.
Kalula · 09/11/2020 16:03

@Mummyoflittledragon

Kalula Nothing creepy about JB... Have you seen how he touches female children on camera and whispers into their ears?? I think the jury is out on that one!
This link here explains the context of some of these things, which have clearly been twisted, distorted, and taken out of context. www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/aug/12/facebook-posts/fact-checking-pedophilia-attacks-against-joe-biden/
BeaverTail · 09/11/2020 16:23

I'm not a massive fan of Joe Biden but some of the videos of him meeting with children in particular are really very touching. Disgusting that some make ridiculous, vile allegations but that seems to be where we are politically.

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