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He can thcream and thcream until he’s sick but the US has taken its future back (Trump thread #112)

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 07/11/2020 20:37

They’ve only been and gone and done it.
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He can thcream and thcream until he’s sick but the US has taken its future back (Trump thread #112)
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SpongeWorthy · 07/11/2020 22:28

He so egotistical he will do whatever he can to cause instability, chaos and challenges for the incoming team even though it will benefit nobody and just use resources from everyone involved.

He's a petty, sore loser who quite frankly has lost the plot now. Surely there's the equivalent of a vote of no confidence there that the party can use to make him shut the fuck up now even as damage limitation?

He's spiralling so quickly and so extremely that I'm concerned he is going to soon transition into thinly veiled calls to arms for people like the proud boys.

God he is such a waste of space.

MagicoRomantico · 07/11/2020 22:30

I love seeing Trump lose. Its my daily medicine, my weekly energy, my monthly inspiration and my yearly motivation. His loss is the only reason I'm still alive. I was born to love and enjoy the failure that he has achieved.

SpongeWorthy · 07/11/2020 22:31

@GetYourGoatYouHavePulled

Is Trump toxic? Yes. Misogynistic? Yes. Racist? Yes.

Do we need to mock his speech impediment to gloat he lost the election? No.

You sound to me as toxic and hateful as he is. Shame on you.

You sound to me as toxic and hateful as he is. Shame on you.

AS toxic and hateful as Trump? Really?! You obviously haven't been paying attention to his actions...

TheNorthWestPawsage · 07/11/2020 22:33

Qué?

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Blueberries0112 · 07/11/2020 22:33

Trump doesn't have a speech impediment. It is how he learned to talk as a NY businessman. His dad is a businessman too.

Mischance · 07/11/2020 22:35

Thank God - a decent human being at the head of the US.

Destinysdaughter · 07/11/2020 22:36

Haha

He can thcream and thcream until he’s sick but the US has taken its future back (Trump thread #112)
NonCisWoman · 07/11/2020 22:38

This will probably be the last we ever hear of a Trump then...

TheNorthWestPawsage · 07/11/2020 22:38

I don’t think I’m quite as toxic and hateful as someone who callously separated children from their parents and then went on to “lose” over 300 of those children.

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PerkingFaintly · 07/11/2020 22:38

Is GetYourGoatYouHavePulled perhaps referring to the thread title?

I'm not aware that Trump has a speech impediment (other than talking shit).

That title's a reference to Violet Beauregard in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, who is used to getting absolutely everything she asks for in life by uttering the above phrase if it's refused. Her parents enable her appalling behaviour and try their hardest to make the world revolve around her.

She is not an attractive character. Grin

lyralalala · 07/11/2020 22:40

@GetYourGoatYouHavePulled

Is Trump toxic? Yes. Misogynistic? Yes. Racist? Yes.

Do we need to mock his speech impediment to gloat he lost the election? No.

You sound to me as toxic and hateful as he is. Shame on you.

Trump doesn’t have a speech impediment so the thread title doesn’t mock something that doesn’t exist
lyralalala · 07/11/2020 22:40

@NonCisWoman

This will probably be the last we ever hear of a Trump then...
Sadly I doubt that
RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 07/11/2020 22:42

@PerkingFaintly

Is GetYourGoatYouHavePulled perhaps referring to the thread title?

I'm not aware that Trump has a speech impediment (other than talking shit).

That title's a reference to Violet Beauregard in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, who is used to getting absolutely everything she asks for in life by uttering the above phrase if it's refused. Her parents enable her appalling behaviour and try their hardest to make the world revolve around her.

She is not an attractive character. Grin

Absolutely this

Think youve got the wrong end of the stick there getyourgoat

MagicoRomantico · 07/11/2020 22:43

The tread title is just likening him to the spoilt Bonnie Langford character in Just William, not mocking Trump Confused

PerkingFaintly · 07/11/2020 22:43

Ah I'm glad to hear that, Natsku. Best wishes to you all.

And Wine. Or Gin. Or whatever's hitting the spot for you today!Grin

Apileofballyhoo · 07/11/2020 22:44

[quote lionheart]Oh Perking I love that song and so many covers of it.

But one of my strongest memories from the past four years was just after the last election when Kate McKinnon performed the song on SNL.

It seemed fitting then and now.

[/quote] I'll never forget watching that. I'm sure I cried.
Lovestonap · 07/11/2020 22:46

Thread title relating to Violet Elizabeth Bott from the Richmal Crompton Just William Series no?

Natsku · 07/11/2020 22:46

@PerkingFaintly

Is GetYourGoatYouHavePulled perhaps referring to the thread title?

I'm not aware that Trump has a speech impediment (other than talking shit).

That title's a reference to Violet Beauregard in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, who is used to getting absolutely everything she asks for in life by uttering the above phrase if it's refused. Her parents enable her appalling behaviour and try their hardest to make the world revolve around her.

She is not an attractive character. Grin

Think its a character from Just William not Charlie and the Chocolate Factory

I have broken my 'no drinking until christmas' pact to celebrate tonight. It is needed.

Witchend · 07/11/2020 22:47

@PerkingFaintly

Is GetYourGoatYouHavePulled perhaps referring to the thread title?

I'm not aware that Trump has a speech impediment (other than talking shit).

That title's a reference to Violet Beauregard in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, who is used to getting absolutely everything she asks for in life by uttering the above phrase if it's refused. Her parents enable her appalling behaviour and try their hardest to make the world revolve around her.

She is not an attractive character. Grin

It's Violet Elizabeth Bott from the just William stories, not Charlie and the Chocolate factory. She's a spoilt little girl who tells William "I'll thcream and thcream and scream until I'm thick" when he doesn't do as she wants. He loathes and is fascinated by her in equal measure, but is probably the only person really to best him.
Lweji · 07/11/2020 22:49

Thoughts and prayers for Trump.

That he may never haunt us again.

That's as nice as I can for him.

RedToothBrush · 07/11/2020 22:50

@Wherrsmaclickypen

My biggest heartbreak remains in trying to understand the 70 million voters who supported him, and whose voices cannot and should not be ignored. I am not American, I am not there, I cannot feel their pain, I do not understand. But I am choosing to believe, give or take some cultish new born Christians and white supremacists, that the majority of moderate Republicans were voting Republican and not Trump. His wholly unpalatable and unhinged conduct in the last few days (and in the days to come most likely) must have been the icing on the cake. I cannot imagine the machinations amongst senior Republicans now, their stark choice is to disavow Trump and save their party or be drowned in the tide of reconciliation. I think it would save time if they just cut out the middleman and just drove him in the taxpayer-provided, bulletproof limo straight to a state penitentiary. It is ironic, but likely, that he will be hung out to dry by his own party not unlike Boris, imminently
Every election since 1997 in the UK has been not about voting for something, but voting against something.

I think its probably true about what is most motivating voters in the US.

I think its wrong to characterise everyone who voted Trump as voting for him, nor that they even like him.

His hard core voters aside, its more about a wider cultural divide which Trump understands better than the democrats and has been able to exploit. The Culture War.

Its about this divide between cities which are outward looking towards the rest of the world v small town america where people live for generations and have nice comfortable and a very innocent, naive and narrow view of the world. I think in Europe its hard for us to conceive of anyone who has never been to the nearest city, never mind hasn't got a passport and been on holiday abroad. But for many in the US thats the reality.

Then there's the religious aspect to this. When America was settled by Europe it was settled by puritans who very much stricter in how they practiced their faith. And this has been perserved in many parts of the US, in part because of this isolation from outside influences, that distances between towns and cities produced. If you are in the cities you are in a melting pot and are exposed to all these different ideas and cultures and people passing through. And Atheism has become the norm.

So you have a group of people wanting to preserve their traditions, religion and history versus a group of people used to change and actively wanting to push for more. Both see each others life style as a threat to theirs in different ways.

You also have this long term mistrust of the communism and the role of the state (and taxation). You have a population brought up and educated that it was evil under the rivalry with the USSR following the second world war (see McCarthyism) and can't understand the difference between communism and socialism (again lack of knowledge beyond the us is a big player here and how bloody awful US television is). Also see Cuban Hispanics in Florida who have had experience of Castro. They are voting for Trump out of fear of what they believe is the bigger evil.

Trump has delivered low taxation and a supreme court justice to defend the christian right beliefs.

I think now though, there may be a feeling even from this group that they will be relieved to be rid of Trump who represented a lot of the very things they disliked but at least defended their right to their lifestyle and world view. They will now probably prefer a representative to better mirror them rather than merely acting as a battering ram against ideas they find alien and aggressively intolerant of their lifestyle.

Trump knows how to drive the wedge - and illicit a response from his opposition which further alienates them from conservative thinking. For example driving a wedge by almost encouraging people on the left to call conservatives names which then is perceived as hostile to them personally, leading them to believe that Trump is somehow their defender even if they don't agree with all his policies.

You will see this deliberate polarisation of language in everything Trump says. Its a them an us narrative which encourage people to pick sides rather than talk to each other and find common ground. And thats what people do - and then vote against 'the enemy'.

Take note of the lingustics that Biden is trying to now promote which is much more in contrast to that and trying to encourage people to step back from that them and us dynamic and actually consider things rather than make an emotional 'kneejerk' defensive of self/identity.

Trump breaks down politics in a way which makes it about the personal rather than policy in this way. People can't separate the two as easily.

They vote against communism, atheism, the belittlement of small town america, the snoty attitude of graduates who use big words that they don't fully understand and people who want to spoil their simple life of just wanting a wholesome 1950s type idea of family.

Not because they like Trump and what he stands for. More what he stands against.

PerkingFaintly · 07/11/2020 22:51

Good you used Jameson - I've heard it curdles with other whiskey but I've never tested for fear of wasting any!

Shock

I am going to test this right now.

I shall report back.

If I can still stab at a keyboard correctly by the time I'm done, that is...

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 07/11/2020 22:52

Now, if it had said "thcweam and thcweam until I'm thick" it might have been thought to relate to Trump's intellectual capacity, I suppose; can anyone forget that test he aced by being able to tell a camel from a rhino?

Zixxy · 07/11/2020 22:52

Ah FGS he is done now, and future shenanigans will be dismissed and not covered by any media after his dismissal and denigration of them (especially women journos) up to now.

Will be good to see a WH press briefing without mysogyny and all that rubbish. But he is gone now, so is fair game for a kicking. A hated man by many apart from those who like him in the sticks. Just my view folks.

Well anyway Biden is Prez Elect, and Kamela is good to go too as female VP, great after Trump Redneck progress I think.

PerkingFaintly · 07/11/2020 22:52

Thank you Witchend, getting my vile Violets mixed up.

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