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Trump thread #110 where the orange one is going away

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freddosfrogs · 06/11/2020 04:18

How long will this one take to fill ?

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anon444877 · 06/11/2020 11:05

The US doesn't have a royal family to do the silly photo ops like we do, that's why the First Lady has to do all the fluffy made for lifetime TV stuff. It was a waste of Michelle Obama but she did a good, inspiring job of what she could with it.

Apileofballyhoo · 06/11/2020 11:07

This made me laugh.

Trump thread #110 where the orange one is going away
SabrinaThwaite · 06/11/2020 11:11

CNN suggesting that Biden could get a 60k lead in PA.

Which would put him beyond an automatic recount.

BlueCatRedCat · 06/11/2020 11:13

@anon444877

The US doesn't have a royal family to do the silly photo ops like we do, that's why the First Lady has to do all the fluffy made for lifetime TV stuff. It was a waste of Michelle Obama but she did a good, inspiring job of what she could with it.
That's a really good point, the Presidential office is a stand in for royalty.

Melania has actually got away with murder by being so absent. No other First Lady would have gotten away with it. Her "Be Best" campaign went nowhere.

Michelle is astonishingly intelligent, and did all her duties with grace and class, even though you are right, it was a waste of her considerable talents. It kills me to see the criticism she endured from Fox et al, for her looks and dress. They managed to make her out to be Pol Pot for suggesting kids eat vegetables.

tobee · 06/11/2020 11:13

Just woken up (for a bit) is it worrying that numbers in Arizona and Nevada look closer? What's left to count? What cities/counties etc? I hoped things would be closer in Pennsylvania by now!

Destinysdaughter · 06/11/2020 11:14

This is from FB. A disturbing account of intimidation inside a Detroit vote counting station.
www.facebook.com/2203814/posts/10114174062462023/

anon444877 · 06/11/2020 11:15

I do sometimes say to my kids like Michelle 'when they go low, we go high'. Shame Trump hasn't managed to find any dignity!

Chrystal1982 · 06/11/2020 11:20

Georgia Biden lead now 1,096

drspouse · 06/11/2020 11:21

@tobee

Just woken up (for a bit) is it worrying that numbers in Arizona and Nevada look closer? What's left to count? What cities/counties etc? I hoped things would be closer in Pennsylvania by now!
I don't know but BBC is showing Arizona still more than 1% difference, not Nevada but I don't think it was before anyway. Old news I suspect but BBC map shows Georgia blue but undeclared, rather than red. We have family over there and I keep thinking "good old Uncle X, that's his state" despite Uncle X being 6 feet under!
Yohoheaveho · 06/11/2020 11:25

I'm so loving the thought of him being banned from Twitter 💗

PullTheBricksDown · 06/11/2020 11:28

I know she's ruled it out but I would love to see Michelle Obama run for president. You know Barack would be the consummate First Gent.

Fredelliottisayfredelliott · 06/11/2020 11:31

Michelle Obama would make a fantastic president. Her and Barack are class personified

CherryValanc · 06/11/2020 11:31

Just took a good look at Twitter (I don't usually look too much as I find it a bit of a cesspit!!).

The delusion is rife, isn't it? Trump supports saying Arizona is the state that matters as all other's are fraud and don't matter. Just echoing Trump's madness.

There's one (self-declared law student) that has a picture of some legal text (a decision made in court I think) that he seems to be suggesting proves "Counting ballots that arrive after election day is unconstitutional". When I read it, it seems to be saying the opposite!

Apileofballyhoo · 06/11/2020 11:31

We have family over there and I keep thinking "good old Uncle X, that's his state" despite Uncle X being 6 feet under!

That's exactly the kind of thing I'd think!

MrsMigginsMate · 06/11/2020 11:32

Thanks @BlueCatRedCat that's very enlightening. I didn't realise being the Presidents wife gets you an official job with defined duties, that's a very odd system. Does it come with a salary?

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 06/11/2020 11:34

John Pavlovitz sums it up here, I think. Very sad.

"The delayed results of the presidential election will be revealed soon, but in many ways, those results will be secondary to what we already know now: we were wrong about America.

The fact that it was even close, the fact that more people voted for him a second time, the fact that a higher number of white women inexplicably affirmed him—it is all confirmation that whether we remove the very visible, unsightly symptom or not, the pervasive disease is still horribly afflicting us.

Numbed by a cocktail of optimism and ignorance, many of us imagined this was a sick, momentary aberration; a temporary glitch in the system that would surely be remedied: after so much ugliness, such open disregard for people of color, such inhumanity toward migrant children, such a sickening failure in the face of this pandemic—sanity would surely come to the rescue.

We were certain that we would collectively course-correct; that the pendulum that had so wildly swung toward inhumanity would come roaring back to decency in these days; that we would presently be basking in the glory of a radiant dawn referendum on all this bloated bigotry.

We thought we would be dancing on the grave of fascism.

We thought, of course the good people of this nation would come to their collective senses, leaving behind political affiliations and superficial preferences and ceremonial ties, to rescue us from a malevolence that had proven itself unworthy of its position and toxic to its people.

We were certain there would be a mass repudiation of the racism that this man has revealed and the violence he’s nurtured, because for all its flaws we really believed America was better than this.

We were wrong.

We were wrong to believe that white people weaned for decades on supremacy, would suddenly embrace disparate humanity and make more space at the table.
We were wrong to believe that white Christians would finally have the scales fall from their eyes and abandon their blind adoration of this vile false prophet of enmity, and once again embrace the expansive, compassionate heart of Jesus.
We were wrong to believe that kindness and science and facts and truth and goodness would be found more valuable than the fool’s gold of sneering, star-spangled, American greatness.
We were wrong to hope that more Republicans would cross party lines in order to defend their country from the greatest terrorist threat in our lifetime.
We were wrong to believe that hope would rise up to cast out fear.

And most of all, we were wrong about people we know and love and live alongside and work with and study beside; about our parents, spouses, siblings, uncles, best friends, and neighbors: they are not the people we thought they were and we do not live in the country we thought we lived in.

We believed the best about this nation and we were mistaken.

To many oppressed and vulnerable communities, to people who have long known the depth of America’s sickness because they have experienced it in traffic stops and workplace mistreatment and opportunity inequity and the bitter words of strangers—this may be less shocking news than it is to those of us with greater privilege and more buffers to adversity and the luxury of naiveté.

But this is the sober spot in which we stand now: realizing that our optimism about the whole of this nation was misplaced,
our prayers for the better angels of so many white Christians were unanswered,
our childish illusions that people were indeed basically good and decent, seared away in their reaffirmation of something that the rest of the watching world finds reprehensible.

And now, we’re left with two terribly unfortunate choices: leave the America we have, because it is so very different than the America we hoped for—or stay, realizing that we are surrounded by so many people for whom racism is not only not a deal breaker but a selling point; in a place we know is less safe and less decent and less kind than we wanted—not because of any politician but because of those who embraced him a second time, people who share our kitchen tables and churches and break rooms and cul-de-sacs.

I don’t know what the right decision is.

Right now, the only thing I know is that I expected something beautiful and life-affirming was going to mark this day and it isn’t.

I was certain we were better than him, but we are not.

I was so sure that even though I know hatred dies hard, that America was going to let love have the last, loudest word.

I was wrong."

3ormorecharacters · 06/11/2020 11:35

@CherryValanc it's scary how much of that stuff there is on Twitter! It's really frightening how many people are sucked in by obviously faked or out of context photos / videos / snippets of information and don't think to question it, or don't believe the explanation even when it's given. I guess we all believe what we want to believe but it just shows how damaging social media has been / is / will be to our society.

TeddyDidIt · 06/11/2020 11:37

@Apileofballyhoo

We have family over there and I keep thinking "good old Uncle X, that's his state" despite Uncle X being 6 feet under!

That's exactly the kind of thing I'd think!

I lived in Georgia for a few years as a child and I'll be so pleased if they stay blue Grin
GetTheDoorFrank · 06/11/2020 11:38

Who else is singing cheerio cheerio to the cheeto 😂😂

Yohoheaveho · 06/11/2020 11:38

the fool’s gold of sneering, star-spangled, American greatness
Ain't that the truth

Neolara · 06/11/2020 11:39

Counting the final 5,000 ballots in Georgia seems to be excruciating slow!

chomalungma · 06/11/2020 11:39

@Jaichangecentfoisdenom

That is so true.
It's been said elsewhere - what has this election shown us about America?

4 years of Trump and many people are perfectly happy to see him reelected .

They can turn a blind eye to the dark side of him

goodness17 · 06/11/2020 11:41

@Fredelliottisayfredelliott

Michelle Obama would make a fantastic president. Her and Barack are class personified
Agree, true class. But she's already said no way to running
anon444877 · 06/11/2020 11:42

I said that about Michelle Obama running but the democrat leadership would need a change of heart. It was that said that just because Trump, with no qualifications, got elected, it was no reason for the democrats to ape that. And they didn't. Biden has huge amounts of experience.

Chelsea Clinton said she'd have to run for a lesser office first, and had ruled it out as the people she voted for were already doing a good job. I don't know if she'll change her mind as her kids get older!

ICouldHaveCheckedFirst · 06/11/2020 11:42

Struggling to keep up with these threads!
Excellent article, Jaichange.

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