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Neighbour asked us not to do fireworks?

785 replies

lockdownqueen · 05/11/2020 16:57

I'm in a group chat with girls on our new build estate I've sent out a pre warning as hubby has gone and bought some. Everyone was fine and said they will be in there gardens to watch then one of the girls asked us not too as her dog has severe panic attacks.

don't know what to do? Kids have been looking forward to them.

aibu to go ahead and do them?

OP posts:
Ddot · 06/11/2020 20:20

My neighbour takes dog to moors on bomb fire night. Tell her the time your doing it and she can go out. Make sure your finished at the time you specified. Everyone happy

Jenstar123 · 06/11/2020 20:20

Yes it was fireworks night and fireworks are to be expected but the massive difference is them being in a bloody back garden on a built up estate, how ignorant and antisocial for start. You want to give the appearance of being ‘oh such a considerate neighbour’ by sending a message, when your neighbour asks you not to for a very valid reason you have basically gone I don’t give a fuck they will be 6.15. What a compassionate human being you are, oh and great example to set the kids 👍

Toomuchtrouble4me · 06/11/2020 20:23

Its one night a year and we have to wade through shit left by irresponsible dog owners in our parks daily. What parent hasn't had to clean shitty trainers from dogs shit after a run about in the park?
Enjoy your fireworks, what a Pratt telling you not to do it.

Sirzy · 06/11/2020 20:27

@Toomuchtrouble4me

Its one night a year and we have to wade through shit left by irresponsible dog owners in our parks daily. What parent hasn't had to clean shitty trainers from dogs shit after a run about in the park? Enjoy your fireworks, what a Pratt telling you not to do it.
But it’s not one night is it. There are more going off tonight, and there will be tomorrow. And they have been for weeks
justmakemeacuppa · 06/11/2020 20:38

My mum used to drive our dog to the top roads and watch without the bangs. She ended up having some physiological problem where she would scratch the carpet for dear life 3am every morning, we had to drug her every night for weeks till she got over it. With our 2nd dog when bonfire night came we threw the ball and got excited every time a bang went off luckily it worked and now the dog couldn’t care less.

Bugbabe1970 · 06/11/2020 20:41

In future don’t tell everyone everything. You don’t need other people’s permission to do what you want in your own garden
You won’t be the only one setting off fireworks tonight

FixTheBone · 06/11/2020 20:50

Sod the dogs, I'm on day 14 of a 19 day on call stretch, up at 5am, home at 9pm, the last 7 of which have been punctuated by constant explosions from dusk till midnight.

They're an antisocial menace.

LoverOfAllThingsPurple · 06/11/2020 21:03

Perhaps reach a compromise? They keep their dog in a quiet place in the house whilst the fireworks are going off n then take him out after? They can’t expect you never to celebrate 5th Nov ever again. Fireworks have been going off constantly outside and my cats have done nothing but chill calmly on the bed!

MountIronSolo01 · 06/11/2020 21:19

@InFiveMins

YABU. Nobody likes fireworks other than those setting them off. The sooner they are banned other than organised public displays on 5th Nov and New Years Eve, the better.
Bit of a sweeping statement, I enjoy other people’s fireworks. I get a lot of enjoyment from fireworks but I acknowledge this isn’t the case for everyone.
Scotland32 · 06/11/2020 21:22

We have desensitised our dogs to loud noises from a young age. I think that is fair on them and on neighbours!

aquamarine2 · 06/11/2020 21:22

So you are happy to let a dog die just so your kids can see a few fireworks. That says exactly what type of person you are. You should be ashamed. She is trying to protect her dog from harm and you are utterly selfish

lynsey91 · 06/11/2020 21:41

@Toomuchtrouble4me

Its one night a year and we have to wade through shit left by irresponsible dog owners in our parks daily. What parent hasn't had to clean shitty trainers from dogs shit after a run about in the park? Enjoy your fireworks, what a Pratt telling you not to do it.
For goodness sake IT IS NOT ONE NIGHT A YEAR. Are all firework lovers thick?

If it were one night it would not be as bad although the ones that sound like bombs would still be awful but in lots of areas it is weeks of fireworks around Halloween and bonfire night and then again at Christmas and New Year.

If you live somewhere where it honestly is just the ONE night then be thankful

lynsey91 · 06/11/2020 21:46

@Scotland32

We have desensitised our dogs to loud noises from a young age. I think that is fair on them and on neighbours!
As I have now said at least THREE times, I desensitised my dog when I got him as a puppy. For a good few years he was fine not the slightest bit bothered by fireworks or any other loud noises.

Then when I was walking him at about 3pm so broad daylight on about 14th November so not bonfire night or anywhere close to it some complete dick let a loud firework off close to where we were walking and my poor dog was terrified. He tried to run home almost pulling me over as he is a big dog. If I had not managed to hang on to his lead he would likely have run into the road.

Since then he has been scared, not only of fireworks, but any loud noise. When my neighbours crash the lid of their wheely bin, which they do countless times a day, he literally jumps and runs to his bed.

If fireworks were only let off on the correct night everyone that has a child, pet, elderly relative who is scared of fireworks could prepare but as we never know when they are likely to go off that is impossible

Flaxmeadow · 06/11/2020 22:02

Let’s all stop living our lives because there is always someone that might be ‘traumatized’ if someone sneezes

This, and where will "fur baby" tyranny end up?

In the park "please don't allow your children to eat that picnic in front of my dog, he has OCD and might have a doggy nervous breakdown"

Xmas "could you not put those lights outside. Fido gets confused by led lights and might have a tummy upset. Please be considerate. We must consider all creatures "

Gardening "could you please not use that lawn mower, Butch doesn't like the sound. He might develop PTSD. He's already has anxiety and we dont want to make his condition any worse, DO WE?"

FelicisNox · 06/11/2020 22:09

It's a difficult one: I've always had fireworks because my children loved them but we only ever had one box and it was the least offensive because of my dog and I hoped it would desensitise her..... it didn't.

I've now stopped using them but my poor dog has had an awful time over the last few days because of other people's fireworks. She can cope if it's not too loud but it seems there's nothing but super loud ones: she wouldn't even go out for a wee yesterday and the poor thing was so stressed tonight that when she went out for a wee in what we thought was a lull, a volley of loud bangs occurred and she was scared to death, she just stopped weeing and ran howling straight through the house to the front door and now she won't move.

It's all well and good saying tranq them but why should I when it costs moneyand how does that help when she needs to wee and the fireworks go on until bloody midnight?

Would you do this to a toddler because that's what dogs are, they are basically furry 2 year olds with no capacity to manage their own fear so is drugging them the action of choice?

It's a no from me. Humans are too selfish and self centred as it is and this is a prime example. Do better is my train of thought.

Honeyroar · 06/11/2020 22:09

I’ve had loads of dogs and they weren’t remotely bothered by fireworks. One of my current dogs is terrified of theme. She’s spent all night shaking, and we live rurally, so no close neighbours. If you live in a town or urban setting with a regular sized garden I think it’s totally selfish to let off fireworks. And the people justifying mentally torturing an animal because the animal’s owners haven’t picked their dog’s shit up, I have no words for how low my opinion is of your selfishness.

Carriecakes80 · 06/11/2020 22:11

My kids love fireworks, but they cause so much stress to animals, can't do it to them.
If kids are old enough to enjoy fireworks and be disappointed, then they are old enough to learn a little kindness and empathy.
Its not just dogs, other animals feel terrified and can injure themselves trying to get away.
I'll put my hands up and say until I volunteered at St Tiggywinkles, I never knew, now, my kids would much rather animals stay stress free and happy than see a few bangs and sparks.
www.rspca.org.uk/documents/1494939/0/Bang+out+of+order+-+fireworks+frighten+animals+%28PDF+706KB%29.pdf/ebcfb65c-40f4-58a0-88d2-0896845a3127?t=1571669349793

IceniWarrior · 06/11/2020 22:23

DD 8 wouldn't dream of having fireworks despite loving them. Don't you teach your kids empathy? And we wonder why there is a virus running rampant through the population when people turn the other cheek when having to consider how we treat animals, wildlife and the environment.

Flaxmeadow · 06/11/2020 22:23

If you live in a town or urban setting with a regular sized garden I think it’s totally selfish to let off fireworks

Some might say its selfish to keep a dog if you live in an urban setting and not just on bonfire night. That it's unfair on a dog, an animal that isn't well adapted to be in that kind of environment.

Ifeelsuchafool · 06/11/2020 22:35

Fireworks should be outlawed.

Blacksheepcat · 06/11/2020 22:37

Wow, some insensitive people here. Animals hate fireworks...dogs, cats, horses, bunnies etc (should I post the photos of someone’s bunny who died of fright?)
But stuff them right? Who gives a stuff about animals?

Seriously, fireworks should not to be sold to the general public.

I can also post about the cat that was killed by someone strapping a firework to it....what fun.

BarryWhiteIsMyBrother · 06/11/2020 22:41

Why did you send out the 'pre warning' if you don't think fireworks can be an issue? Do you send out a pre warning when you have a bbq?

Nigglenaggle · 06/11/2020 22:47

Wow what a bunch of c¥£€$. No, of course you don't go ahead. Why ask if you weren't prepared to cancel? Are you going to teach your children to ignore the pain of others for a brief satisfaction? The world is doomed.

sneakysnoopysniper · 06/11/2020 22:54

Even if you stop your firework display there will be others. Your neighbour cannot control the entire estate. I would go ahead as planned. Tell her you didnt see her message if there are repercussions.

copperoliver · 06/11/2020 22:59

I wouldn't do them my friends dog had a seizure I don't think people realise how stressed animals get. It's so dangerous.
Could you not drive to An empty field or piece of land and let them off. It would make it a bit more of an adventure too. X

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