To think that huge civil unrest is on it's way for the USA?

[shesellsseashells99]

Well, just that really?

I can feel it, Trump isn't going to go quietly. This is such a worry.

Where are ppl seeing this footage of the craziness?

@AcornAutumn

I’m really worried about this

On another thread they said Gore conceded to Bush to avoid disruption?

I can already see the oddities — more votes in Wisconsin than voters? But I just wish it could be handled in a calm civilised fashion.

Gore did not concede. He sued Bush in the Supreme Court

Think was on c4 news.

@stopgap

Trump is a fascist, period, end of, goodbye bots.

You are undoubtably correct that Trump is extreme right, but when will the left learn that this kind of shut down, cancellation of debate is exactly what fuels Brexit, Boris, Trump and the masses who do actually vote for them.

@Stripesnomore

There was always going to be the same risk, regardless of the outcome.

No I don't think so, liberals don't tend to go to civil unrest so easily, if Trump legitimately won, I don't think there'd be a lot of civil unrest, just as there wasn't the first time, I'd like to think they will stand up if he attempts to overrun a loss. Biden winning, yes I think Trump supporters are much more likely to be irrational and violent, sadly.

If Biden wins, Trump will not accept defeat dangerously. It seems that as soon as it became clear that Biden was gaining ground, Trump immediately began a campaign to discredit the results and claim fraudulent practices. He is stoking up his supporters to make trouble and many of them are gun toting types so there is great potential for serious violence.

I wish Trump would just have the patience and dignity to wait until the final results are in, rather than jumping the gun with his ridiculous accusations. He is coming across as seriously deluded and dangerous.

He's doing a press conference at 4.30pm our time and has some security bods with him, I'm assuming to declare evidence of "corruption"......?

He's like a petulant child, it depresses me how many people have voted for him.

@Ihaveyourback can you share more information on this? The state attorneys have come out multiple times saying they are actually live streaming the counting and checking of postal votes and any footage I’ve seen shows people looking on as this is done?

@Movingonup201...Want to explain the riots this past summer?

@Leaannb the "riots" demanding human rights and equality for all? Damn those liberals and their largely peaceful protests wanting all people to be treated equally.

YABU. The courts will resolve any legal challenges. If Trump refuses to accept court rulings he will have zero support from the Republican leadership. If he loses in court he simply won't be president come January 20th.

[quote movingonup201]@Leaannb the "riots" demanding human rights and equality for all? Damn those liberals and their largely peaceful protests wanting all people to be treated equally. [/quote]
I didn't demonize them in anyway. The fact is they looted. They burned down businesses and homes. They jad every right to protest. That did not give them the right to act with violence. Those were not Trump Supporters. If Trump wins fairly or not people will riot. If Biden loses they will riot. Not protest. Not do something good but destroy

@Leaannb who are "they"?

If the leader of one of those countries classed as “shithole countries” by Trump and his ilk were on the news making baseless accusations of election fraud and essentially inciting riots, armed protestors surrounding counting stations etc, what would people be saying? It’s clear what’s going on here.

@Wildswim

Yes it's a massive worry. America is just so divided. It's a pressure cooker.

An armed to the teeth pressure cooker.

Leaannb
The fact is they looted. They burned down businesses and homes. They jad every right to protest. That did not give them the right to act with violence.
Bit like the suffragettes then.

Yep. He told the Proud Boys to stand by. I’m worried about what that means.

I thought since George Flloyd that the USA is a tinderbox. The combination of the pandemic, the economic situation and the race riots combine to make a perfect storm. I have to say that while I generally find all the hyperbole surrounding this election horrifying I do fear that the refusal of Trump to accept defeat could tip them into civil war or wide scale rioting.
The police appear to have little direction as they are all fragmented forces (apparently a small size city the size of Brighton might have anything up to 9 police agencies). It's no surprise when there is so little cohesion that they are slow to deal. Plus loads of police officers are demoralised by being tarred with the same brush as officers accused of corruption so probably aren't exactly feeling thrilled at dealing with yet more disorder.

(apparently a small size city the size of Brighton might have anything up to 9 police agencies).

What's given you that idea?

You are undoubtably correct that Trump is extreme right, but when will the left learn that this kind of shut down, cancellation of debate is exactly what fuels Brexit, Boris, Trump and the masses who do actually vote for them.

Whereas trying to incorporate the far right into democratic politics and seeking compromise with them has an excellent history of success.

What's given you that idea?
The dispatchers in the USA in the emergency services dispatcher group I belong to on facebook (I'm a police dispatcher). I asked how their police were arranged as I found it very confusing and was told that lots of cities have multiple PDs

Sorry to be ignorant, but unless you’re actually in the U.S, what exactly are people so worried about?

@tigerbear

Sorry to be ignorant, but unless you’re actually in the U.S, what exactly are people so worried about?

Truly??

Trump and his allies flouting the law; ruining democracy; encouraging violence, racism, misogyny, nepotism and SO much more

I miss the dogs at polling station pictures we have in the uk.

It’s just the language used with trump

They are “stealing” the election. It’s just inciting anger.