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AIBU to feel upset by what I’m hearing?

126 replies

Capamile · 04/11/2020 19:57

Sorry another covid related question.
People have probably had enough of this subject but just after opinions and thoughts really as finding it difficult to be biased.
My cousin died of covid aged 52 and had no other health issues, was fit and ate healthily.
Also, bro in law has covid and has been really poorly and in hospital (he’s 33 and again has no health issues).
I work in a very small company and a lot of my colleagues have been chatting about their kids going out although they’re currently under tier 2.
They’ve said their kids ranging from 18-25 have still been meeting friends and we’re talking about how all the young ones have been getting around the tier 2 rules by getting fake student ID cards made with same address on so looks like they all live together.
AIBU to think this is selfish and part of the reason we are going in lockdown tomorrow?
I don’t understand it’s difficult for young people (only 31 myself) and mental health is important but these live at home with their parents so aren’t living alone.
Their parents don’t see anything wrong with what they’re doing but I just feel it’s irresponsible personally.

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WorraLiberty · 04/11/2020 21:28

Honestly OP yo u don't have to keep explaining.

Just file it under "Threads I wish I'd never fucking started" 😂😂

Lollypop701 · 04/11/2020 21:29

The op has suffered her cousin dying, her bol in hospital. I assume her colleagues know this... small office. Yet they talk about rule breaking as no big thing. Insensitive at the very least. I have a 17yo and whilst it’s difficult for me to say no, and hard for him to accept (as his mates are out) it’s working, and we ha e .no older relatives to protect either. If EVERYONE made changes we’d be through this already. Instead lockdown part 2 in on because no one will say no to younger generation and they are so used to instant gratification they won’t stop

buildingbridge · 04/11/2020 21:29

OP please don't feed into Souldyurr. Why are you bothering with her? Let her say what she wants to say and focus on the other posters. People like Souldyurr are very unhappy with their lives. Otherwise, why would they spend their energy arguing with the OP on the internet! You say your piece here and there and you finish it! Jeez!

Miljea · 04/11/2020 21:30

C'mon.

We have a heavily endorsed Tory Government. It's what 'we want'.

Let's not try 'Selfish' shaming.

The entire point of being Tory is a belief in self-reliance; self promotion; effectively 'looking after number one'.

That is the essence.

Please don't go calling 'selfish'.

You'd be a mug, considering where we are at, right now, to cite 'selfish'.

Our entire political ruling class have been elected upon the premise of 'number one'; i.e selfish.

buildingbridge · 04/11/2020 21:32

WorraLiberty yes I've seen you on a few threads. You don't seem like a nice person and I believe you need some counselling. Pray that your children don't end up like bullies like you.

buildingbridge · 04/11/2020 21:35

Ah! Sorry WorraLiberty not you!! That comment was meant for another poster. I'll start again

WorraLiberty · 04/11/2020 21:36

@buildingbridge

WorraLiberty yes I've seen you on a few threads. You don't seem like a nice person and I believe you need some counselling. Pray that your children don't end up like bullies like you.
What the what now? Confused

Yes, me telling the OP not to worry about some random ripping into her on the internet, makes me truly awful 😂😂

WorraLiberty · 04/11/2020 21:37

@buildingbridge

Ah! Sorry WorraLiberty not you!! That comment was meant for another poster. I'll start again
Ahh ok 😁
buildingbridge · 04/11/2020 21:37

I am so sorry. The comment was not meant for you

nettie434 · 04/11/2020 21:37

I am really sorry about your bereavement Capamile and hope your brother in law recovers soon.

I suspect if it were just young people not sticking to the rules, we would not be in the state we're in. For instance, a lot of people can't afford to self isolate as they don't receive sick pay or they are placed under a lot of pressure to turn up at work. I also read that air travel and summer holidays abroad were also a big transmission route. Some people caught it via Eat Out to Help Out. Our track and trace system is not really up to establishing all the sources of transmission.

It must have been incredibly frustrating to hear your colleagues' conversation. Unfortunately, as some scientists did warn, people get frustrated when restrictions have been in place for some time. I don't think the advice has been the best - telling students 'don't kill your gran' is the greatest example of an effective health message.

Frenchtoastie · 04/11/2020 21:37

Do tiers still exist? I thought we were in a national lockdown and no one was allowed to meet anyone else?

WorraLiberty · 04/11/2020 21:38

@buildingbridge

I am so sorry. The comment was not meant for you
No worries Grin
nettie434 · 04/11/2020 21:38

Isn't Blush

WorraLiberty · 04/11/2020 21:39

@Frenchtoastie

Do tiers still exist? I thought we were in a national lockdown and no one was allowed to meet anyone else?
Tiers still exist until midnight tonight
Francescat · 04/11/2020 21:39

OP, I think there must be a full moon tonight or something... Some very strange, embittered responses on here Hmm

YANBU and it looks like the majority agree. I’m sorry for your loss Flowers

nettie434 · 04/11/2020 21:40

Midnight tonight as far as England is concerned Frenchtoastie so tiers did apply when the conversations took place.

Suzi888 · 04/11/2020 21:42

YANBU
I am so sorry about your family members.

Capamile · 04/11/2020 21:43

@WorraLiberty

Honestly OP yo u don't have to keep explaining.

Just file it under "Threads I wish I'd never fucking started" 😂😂

Well, it’s shown me that some people can attack for no reason! Just obviously didn’t read my post properly...Smile
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IvorHughJarrs · 04/11/2020 21:45

@SnackSizeRaisin

Well I'm in tier 3 and have been meeting a group of friends in an indoor cafe on a regular basis. We are never the only group in the cafe either. No id was requested. I would say it's middle aged, middle class white women who are to blame... Or maybe just trying to protect our mental health? Just get on with your life and let others get on with theirs.
Do you really feel this is justifiable? What happens if one of you gets ill or, even worse, dies? How would that affect your mental health? My friends and I have not met up as a group for ages despite having all sorts of stresses in our lives to justify it with and, while I know we can all make our own decisions and you are perfectly entitled to yours, I do wonder if this type of justifying breaking rules and guidance is why we are where we are. It's fine to say let others get on with their lives but is that fair if they endanger the rest of us who do try to toe the line?
LindyLou2020 · 04/11/2020 21:49

@DimidDavilby

Hinny at 31 you are not a young person I'm sorry.
She IS
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eveoha · 04/11/2020 22:07

Hello Mr Trump 😐

eveoha · 04/11/2020 22:09

Aka souldyurr 😐

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