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Amber Heard -Jonny depp

33 replies

barregirl1 · 03/11/2020 19:36

Given yesterday’s ruling, I’d there anyone else not feeling like this is right?

I have no Johnny Depp crush nor a fan but...

If you ever left a sociopath, does it not feel
Like the wrong verdict?

A victim of abuse feels worthless and shamed. I don’t understand how a victim goes to papers over polices day various other things about the case disturb me.

I left a abuse but also know males who have - I didn’t hear all the evidence as I wasn’t in court. But I genuinely feel that this is sociopathy over abuse.

I know that I will be shot down for this but ... I also know victims of sociopaths have no voice.

OP posts:
Shoxfordian · 03/11/2020 19:53

Who are you calling a sociopath?

Sparklesocks · 03/11/2020 19:58

Your post isn’t clear. Who is the sociopath? How do you know that person is a sociopath, you just go around armchair diagnosing.

Also just because you don’t understand something a victim does or doesn’t do doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It’s a shitty narrative to assume all domestic violence victims should behave a certain way.

switswooo · 03/11/2020 19:58

What are you on about? She won! Hallelujah!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/11/2020 19:58

And there are a few other threads you could contribute to, if you want to get an answer more quickly.

But frankly, I can't work out which of the two people you name you are referring to.

Nasty and utterly speculative either way!

Newfornow · 03/11/2020 19:58

I have no idea what you are getting at ? Your post makes no sense ?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/11/2020 19:59

swits what are you on about? The Sun was the defendant!!!!

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 03/11/2020 19:59

I'm not quite sure what you mean.

SomeSmotheringDreams · 03/11/2020 20:00

I'm afraid I can't make any sense of your post. What are you actually trying to say?

UnconvincingUsername · 03/11/2020 20:02

I agree your post doesn’t make sense.

Based on that court hearing, I’d say that they both sound like pretty dysfunctional people. It sounds like an all round toxic relationship and neither of them came out of the hearing well.

The case wasn’t about who was a victim really anyway - it was a libel case, and the judge found that there was sufficient evidence that the Sun’s claims were not libelous.

switswooo · 03/11/2020 20:10

@CuriousaboutSamphire

swits what are you on about? The Sun was the defendant!!!!
But he was accusing her of lying, so she has won too.

This is really simple, a child would get it.

CuriousaboutSamphire · 03/11/2020 21:13

Oh dear!!!!

OddHoleySocks · 03/11/2020 21:16

I don't think either have 'won'. Honestly, it's looks very much like a toxic relationship with fault on both sides. I'm not sure that one was worse than the other tbh.

OddHoleySocks · 03/11/2020 21:18

I don't think either have 'won'. Honestly, it's looks very much like a toxic relationship with fault on both sides. I'm not sure that one was worse than the other tbh.

user65423546256 · 03/11/2020 21:18

So to summarise your op: "Wrong type of victim so I don't believe her" basically then?

Don't be a dickhead.

user65423546256 · 03/11/2020 21:20

Considering if victims go to the police they are treated like absolute shit and have their lives destroyed, I am so fucking sick of people trotting out the "if they were a real victim, why didn't they go to the police?" line as part of their victim-blaming routine.

Louiselhrau · 03/11/2020 21:26

Yes Amber Heard is clearly disturbed and not the type of woman you'd want a loved one to be with but the ruling just said that the Sun wasn't bullshitting basically and that the relationship was toxic. He should have left her long before she flipped out.

Louiselhrau · 03/11/2020 21:27

Yes Amber Heard is clearly disturbed and not the type of woman you'd want a loved one to be with but the ruling just said that the Sun wasn't bullshitting basically and that the relationship was toxic. He should have left her long before she flipped out.

Level75 · 03/11/2020 21:28

Jonny Depp is a wife beater. Decided by a UK judge with huge amounts of experience having heard weeks of evidence. What is your rationale for saying the outcome was not right? Insider knowledge? Amazing and relevant legal experience?...

Louiselhrau · 03/11/2020 21:28

Yes Amber Heard is clearly disturbed and not the type of woman you'd want a loved one to be with but the ruling just said that the Sun wasn't bullshitting basically and that the relationship was toxic. He should have left her long before she flipped out.

Level75 · 03/11/2020 21:30

Jonny Depp is a wife beater. Decided by a UK judge with huge amounts of experience having heard weeks of evidence. What is your rationale for saying the outcome was not right? Insider knowledge? Amazing and relevant legal experience?...

Level75 · 03/11/2020 21:31

Jonny Depp is a wife beater. Decided by a UK judge with huge amounts of experience having heard weeks of evidence. What is your rationale for saying the outcome was not right? Insider knowledge? Amazing and relevant legal experience?...

Level75 · 03/11/2020 21:56

Mumsnet seems buggy with multiple replies today

SheepandCow · 03/11/2020 22:12

Everybody should put aside any views they might hold about the sun. This article makes everything crystal clear. Johnny Depp is a violent wife-beater.

www.thesun.co.uk/news/13090761/johnny-depp-amber-heard-12-viocious-attacks/

From the article:
He ruled Depp, 57, subjected Amber, 34, to years of brutal drink, drug and rage-fuelled domestic abuse.

Out of 14 alleged incidents, he dismissed only two — owing to insufficient evidence.

Depp had sued The Sun for libel after we branded him a “wife beater” — but the judge ruled we were right.

SheepandCow · 03/11/2020 22:23

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Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Fallsballs · 03/11/2020 22:27

OP - a decision was made in a court of law, get over it.
Johnny lost and has been exposed as a wife beater, End Of.