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to tell people that you can go for walks in the countryside which is lovely

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chomalungma · 01/11/2020 10:37

But the pubs will be shut so you can't get a lovely lunch whilst out

So it's going to be pack lunches again.

At least this time there won't be people complaining about people exercising in the Peak District like last time!

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CrotchetyQuaver · 01/11/2020 19:08

It's the dirty buggers that came to the new forest, parked so they caused an obstruction, dropped litter and shat wherever they felt like it that make me HATE LOCKDOWN. It was a national problem, so I hope all the dirty gits stay home and shit on their own doorstep this time - I don't give a stuff about should or must, I do know nowhere in the British countryside needs visitors like that.

Pumperthepumper · 01/11/2020 19:08

@flaviaritt

Pumper

No, they aren’t relying on my ‘humanity’. The virus doesn’t spread outdoors when people are socially distanced. They are simply being selfish, trying to hoard access to spaces that others are entitled to use just as they are. Why do they believe they have any more right to demand I stay away from a particular hill or field than I do to say who can walk down my street?

They don’t - they can’t stop you. They’re relying on you not being selfish. More fool them!
flaviaritt · 01/11/2020 19:09

An overinflated sense of entitlement.

Yes. They have no more right to say who goes to the countryside than I do to say who can or can’t walk down my local high street. This whole debate is ridiculous. Let’s all just follow the law.

MarieVanGoethem · 01/11/2020 19:09

@ScribblingPixie

That makes perfect sense. TBH I think myself very lucky health-wise in lots of ways: there are lots of people who are vastly more unwell than I am; & I’ve been able to access most of the care I need despite the pandemic.

London really is almost ridiculously full of endlessly fascinating things, am glad you’re enjoying the river exhibition.

flaviaritt · 01/11/2020 19:11

They’re relying on you not being selfish.

Again, no they are not. The virus isn’t spreading in fields and woods. You are being ridiculous.

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Pumperthepumper · 01/11/2020 19:13

@flaviaritt

They’re relying on you not being selfish.

Again, no they are not. The virus isn’t spreading in fields and woods. You are being ridiculous.

No I’m not. You’re looking at from an individual level. If everyone thought like you then places would be absolutely decimated. And if you do pass it on and they can’t get to hospital in time, who gives a fuck? You got your walk!
flaviaritt · 01/11/2020 19:14

No I’m not. You’re looking at from an individual level. If everyone thought like you then places would be absolutely decimated.

I don’t even know what you mean. Anyway, I am not continuing this. I’ll follow the law, thanks.

stackemhigh · 01/11/2020 19:15

I was in Bournemouth in September, the locals out and about were very unfriendly (we kept to ourselves but asked a couple of questions) but couldn’t fault the staff in the tourist centre (although it was closed) or the restaurants.

Orcus · 01/11/2020 19:16

Wow. Is this your approach to all of the “guidelines”? I assume this means you will continue to meet all of your friends in large groups, invite the family over for lunch, refuse to wear a mask at the shop.

You have entirely missed the point OP.

You've just conflated not observing guidance with breaking actual rules and you think it's her who's missed the point?

Pumperthepumper · 01/11/2020 19:19

@flaviaritt

No I’m not. You’re looking at from an individual level. If everyone thought like you then places would be absolutely decimated.

I don’t even know what you mean. Anyway, I am not continuing this. I’ll follow the law, thanks.

Well don’t moan when the locals aren’t delighted so see you then.
TheDowagerDuchessofMwwwahaha · 01/11/2020 19:29

Love walks in the country anyway! As long as we can still drive for a walk I’m happy as we’re limited within walking distance.

TheDowagerDuchessofMwwwahaha · 01/11/2020 19:31

I’m not proposing to travel the length of the country, but I think up to an hour’s drive in any direction is a reasonable thing to do.

Being able to drive 10 mins makes a huge different for us though.

mummyoneboy19 · 01/11/2020 19:35

Haven’t RTFT so not sure whether it’s still the original topic being discussed...

But I agree! We’re lucky enough to live relatively close to some lovely walks so we’ll be popping our little one into the carrier and setting off on a trek with a flask of tea and sandwiches :) lockdown is crap but we may as well look forward to what enjoyments we can!

BitOfFun · 01/11/2020 19:41

@chomalungma- if you were in the NW, I would invite you to walk with me, and provide some nice sandwiches if you brought the thermos filled with vodka, except I can't walk at the moment due to illness (which, madly, I keep forgetting!). I think you've had a hard time on this thread from unnecessarily grumpy people who probably need to walk more to keep their blood pressure down..

CherryPavlova · 01/11/2020 19:42

I think given the change in the weather there won’t be too many driving out to yomp for miles through mud and down slippy chalk paths for easy entertainment.
We’ve no lavatories, no public transport, no picnic benches, no coffee shop pub and the church is closed. Unless you genuinely enjoy ‘proper’ walking (and thus are likely to understand ad respect the rural way of life) then I cannot see a wet countryside holding huge popular appeal.
Thank goodness. We really don’t want bored townies bringing a higher risk of the virus to our old folk.

flaviaritt · 01/11/2020 19:48

We really don’t want bored townies bringing a higher risk of the virus to our old folk.

They won’t. The virus is spreading indoors. Not in fields. Why is this so hard to grasp?

PumpkinLove · 01/11/2020 19:50

Haven't read the full thread but to clarify, the gov website states that a reason for travel can include exercise: "exercise, if you need to make a short journey to do so"

Ignoringequally · 01/11/2020 19:50

We really don’t want bored townies bringing a higher risk of the virus to our old folk

Why would your ‘old folk’ be in a field? Outdoor spread is practically non existent.
Hope no bored country folk plan to use the towns at all and spread it there.

flaviaritt · 01/11/2020 19:56

Hope no bored country folk plan to use the towns at all and spread it there.

Because people from the country never venture into county towns to visit John Lewis or Le Creuset stores. Oh no. That never happens.

Pumperthepumper · 01/11/2020 19:57

@flaviaritt

We really don’t want bored townies bringing a higher risk of the virus to our old folk.

They won’t. The virus is spreading indoors. Not in fields. Why is this so hard to grasp?

It’s more the pettiness in refusing to visit EVER AGAIN EVER because they weren’t delighted to see you when a pandemic was at its peak. That and the glee in hoping they go under because they rely on tourists when there isn’t a chance of, you know, death.
flaviaritt · 01/11/2020 20:10

It’s more the pettiness in refusing to visit EVER AGAIN EVER because they weren’t delighted to see you when a pandemic was at its peak. That and the glee in hoping they go under because they rely on tourists when there isn’t a chance of, you know, death.

There’s no glee. I just won’t want to go to places where people are so rude and entitled that they believe they can barricade themselves off, including public land. It makes me sad, but there it is. I won’t want to go there anymore, because I will see those people as selfish and idiotic.

Pumperthepumper · 01/11/2020 20:13

@flaviaritt

It’s more the pettiness in refusing to visit EVER AGAIN EVER because they weren’t delighted to see you when a pandemic was at its peak. That and the glee in hoping they go under because they rely on tourists when there isn’t a chance of, you know, death.

There’s no glee. I just won’t want to go to places where people are so rude and entitled that they believe they can barricade themselves off, including public land. It makes me sad, but there it is. I won’t want to go there anymore, because I will see those people as selfish and idiotic.

They’re not barricading off public land! This is a fight in your own head! Anyway, you’re probably doing them a favour by leaving them in peace.
Livelovebehappy · 01/11/2020 20:18

TBH, I’ve continued throughout the last year going on walks, as I did before, in the countryside. Either to those on my doorstep or travelling by car further afield. And I can honestly say the locals haven’t been hostile and openly encourage visitors - a lot of people in those area depend on visitors for their businesses. The only hostility is on MN, from people presumably who are retired or are wealthy enough to not have to rely on custom from outside their community. It’s a very selfish attitude. You can froth at the mouth and stamp your feet as much as you like, but it’s not going to stop people from exercising in the countryside. Calm down and learn to embrace it.

CherryPavlova · 01/11/2020 20:26

@Ignoringequally

We really don’t want bored townies bringing a higher risk of the virus to our old folk

Why would your ‘old folk’ be in a field? Outdoor spread is practically non existent.
Hope no bored country folk plan to use the towns at all and spread it there.

Our old folk will be out walking. Why would they not walk near their homes? People knock at doors when they realise there is no phone signal or to top up water bottles, as examples.

The virus can be spread anywhere there is air movement, anywhere there are fomites,
Coronavirus can survive for 14 days at 4 °C, 2 days at 20 °C in dechlorinated tap water - or indeed possibly wet stiles or gates.
The most common nosocomial coronaviruses may well survive or persist on inanimate surfaces for up to a month.
Don’t fool yourself outside is risk free. It is merely lower risk. flaviaritt, what exactly is so hard to grasp about this