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We're on the home run, let's stand together for a blue wave 🤗🌊 (Trump thread #107

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Roussette · 31/10/2020 13:52

Here we go!

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UnsureOfOutcome · 01/11/2020 17:29

PS just realised the awful applicability of my username at this point Grin

lionheart · 01/11/2020 17:30

'A day later in Goodyear, he called GOP Sen. Martha McSally on stage to make her case for reelection, but needled her as she rushed up the steps, almost apologizing to the crowd for offering time to a lawmaker whose potential defeat could cost his party its Senate majority.

“Just come up fast. Fast. Fast. Come on. Quick,” Trump said. “You got one minute! One minute, Martha! They don’t want to hear this, Martha. Come on. Let’s go. Quick, quick, quick. Come on.”

He placed no time restraints on the three men who followed McSally at the microphone.'

HoneysuckIejasmine · 01/11/2020 17:39

Is there not hope from early voting? All those millions who have voted already, if they swing Biden then won't that reduce the red mirage"?

CaveMum · 01/11/2020 17:42

Marking my spot

lionheart · 01/11/2020 17:45

Hello CaveMum.

Bagadverts · 01/11/2020 18:08

Hi
I’m British but quite a few American relatives praying (and voting) for a Biden win. I have a couple of questions that google hasn’t answered for me - can you help?
Do the official networks have any cut off on political coverage. Here there isn’t political reporting on the day of the election until the polls close. I presume it won’t stop non official stuff on Twitter anyway.

do proper count figures get released as they go along in each county/state? I’m confused how it can look like a Trump win until paper ballots are added - where are the networks getting figures to call a state if they have only counted part of the vote (absentee/in person)?

Bagadverts · 01/11/2020 18:09

Should be absentee not paper

Roussette · 01/11/2020 18:12

UnsureofOutcome Welcome, glad you poked your head round the door Smile

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Roussette · 01/11/2020 18:14

And BagAdverts welcome too. I am sure someone over in US will have more of a definitive answer than me!

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OVienna · 01/11/2020 18:26

@Bagadverts nope no coverage blackouts. If there is any argument for it it's this election.

Did anyone post the threatening Trump supporters behaviour in Florida and Texas on the last thread?

Armed Republicans AND Democrats turned up one place, I read in the NYT.

So many scary stories to follow.

BruceAndNosh · 01/11/2020 19:16

good news

"The Texas supreme court has just denied a challenge to 127,000 votes cast via drive-thru in Harris County. Republicans have claimed in state and federal court that the votes should be considered illegal because voters used drive-thru polling sites"

CoffeeNights · 01/11/2020 19:19

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PerkingFaintly · 01/11/2020 19:24

@UnsureOfOutcome

PS just realised the awful applicability of my username at this point Grin
I thought it was deliberate.Grin
CaveMum · 01/11/2020 19:44

Did anyone share the Pres Obama video on the last thread? 😁

twitter.com/ava/status/1322672058531110912?s=21

Roussette · 01/11/2020 19:53

No one linked it but I saw it, it was great.

This is worrying Trump behaviour...

www.axios.com/trump-claim-election-victory-ballots-97eb12b9-5e35-402f-9ea3-0ccfb47f613f.html?utm_campaign=organic&utm_medium=socialshare&utm_source=twitter

President Trump has told confidants he'll declare victory on Tuesday night if it looks like he's "ahead," according to three sources familiar with his private comments.

That's even if the Electoral College outcome still hinges on large numbers of uncounted votes in key states like Pennsylvania. Trump has privately talked through this scenario in some detail in the last few weeks, describing plans to walk up to a podium on election night and declare he has won

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Blueberries0112 · 01/11/2020 20:08

[quote OVienna]@Bagadverts nope no coverage blackouts. If there is any argument for it it's this election.

Did anyone post the threatening Trump supporters behaviour in Florida and Texas on the last thread?

Armed Republicans AND Democrats turned up one place, I read in the NYT.

So many scary stories to follow.[/quote]
So frustrating, they think they are standing up against tyranny so they carry their stupid gun everywhere

Blueberries0112 · 01/11/2020 20:13

@Bagadverts

Hi I’m British but quite a few American relatives praying (and voting) for a Biden win. I have a couple of questions that google hasn’t answered for me - can you help? Do the official networks have any cut off on political coverage. Here there isn’t political reporting on the day of the election until the polls close. I presume it won’t stop non official stuff on Twitter anyway.

do proper count figures get released as they go along in each county/state? I’m confused how it can look like a Trump win until paper ballots are added - where are the networks getting figures to call a state if they have only counted part of the vote (absentee/in person)?

I don't think there is any restriction but they probably stop to save money

They start counting votes as soon as the poll closes. Because we have different time zone, they start with the side that closes first

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 01/11/2020 20:19

Did you see this? A revamp of the Time magazine cover from 2018, I think. time.com/5904030/march-for-our-lives-youth-vote-2020-election/
Gives me hope! (Apologies if this has been posted before/if I posted this before!)

We're on the home run, let's stand together for a blue wave 🤗🌊 (Trump thread #107
TheNorthWestPawsage · 01/11/2020 20:22

Hello to all the new (and old ) lovelies!

Lindsay Graham telling 'wimmin' what to do. (Like he'd know! Hmm)

Today, Lindsay Graham told women there's a place for them in America if they embrace their religion and follow "traditional family structure".

Are y'all tired of this nonsense? All women are valid. All families are valid.
twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1322695902360969216?s=21

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HoldMyLobster · 01/11/2020 21:22

@Bagadverts

Hi I’m British but quite a few American relatives praying (and voting) for a Biden win. I have a couple of questions that google hasn’t answered for me - can you help? Do the official networks have any cut off on political coverage. Here there isn’t political reporting on the day of the election until the polls close. I presume it won’t stop non official stuff on Twitter anyway.

do proper count figures get released as they go along in each county/state? I’m confused how it can look like a Trump win until paper ballots are added - where are the networks getting figures to call a state if they have only counted part of the vote (absentee/in person)?

Here's how votes are actually counted in a couple of locations

www.azcleanelections.gov/election-security/how-votes-are-counted

www.nbcnews.com/specials/election-voting-ballot/

This year we have a very unusually high number of early votes. In some states those have been opened, verified as accepted or not, and some run through a scanner. In those states you can expect to see those numbers included in the early released vote counts.

In other states they have not been opened, or verified, so they still have that process to go through. In some of those states they have specifically decided to count in-person votes first, so that's what you'll see in the early vote counts.

This article talks about which states count which ways, when to expect to see results, and whether you're likely to see a shift from one party to the other as a result.
projects.fivethirtyeight.com/election-results-timing/

In my state, they tend to get results from the bigger towns and cities earlier, while the smaller towns, plantations, townships and unorganized territories (yes really) tend to send their results to the state capitol to be counted, and come in much later. Some are flown in from the islands. That usually results in a shift from Democrat to Republican as the evening progresses.

To add on to that confusion, in past elections, especially in areas that are clearly swinging one way or the other, the media will poll people as they leave the ballot area, and ask how they voted, then use that to predict who will win the election.

Sometimes it's just really obvious who won from very early on.

I'd imagine there will be less of that this year, because you can't assume that the people voting in person are a representative sample of all party affiliations.

HoldMyLobster · 01/11/2020 21:24

Oh to add to that, in many states (maybe all?) you can actually go into the polling place in person and vote early. So the vote is already accepted and scanned in, whereas an absentee ballot might still be sitting in its outer envelope waiting for the signature to be verified.

lionheart · 01/11/2020 21:34

So Trump supporters are trying to block roads?

NJ, Garden State Parkway and in New York, Mario Cuomo Bridge.

thehill.com/homenews/campaign/523078-study-warns-five-states-at-high-risk-for-election-related-armed-violence-by

lifesabitchandthenyoudie · 01/11/2020 21:42

President Trump has told confidants he'll declare victory on Tuesday night if it looks like he's "ahead," according to three sources familiar with his private comments.

Can he really do that? And what are the ramifications? How can it possibly have any effect before all the votes have been counted?!

Blueberries0112 · 01/11/2020 21:53

Trump may declare victory but there have been faithless electors in the past and they may very well vote against him

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