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We're on the home run, let's stand together for a blue wave 🤗🌊 (Trump thread #107

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Roussette · 31/10/2020 13:52

Here we go!

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MerchantOfVenom · 31/10/2020 18:40

Thank you for the lovely welcome!

Like many others, I veer between feeling confident and defeated.

The problem is that although I see the polls (and believe them to be vastly improved since 2016), sincerely believe a (significant 🤞) majority of Americans want this one gone from the WH, he cheats, lies and steals, and will happily take it by whatever means necessary.

So it sort of feels like all bets are off.

HoneysuckIejasmine · 31/10/2020 18:59

Thanks for the new thread.

AcrossthePond55 · 31/10/2020 19:21

Hey y'all!

I think the increasingly insane pronouncements from Scrotus and the harassment from his thugs (great term for them!) is due to their increasing desperation, Northwest.

There was a string of Scrotus supporters/trucks with flags etc all along one of our main shopping streets, but they were behaving themselves. Just yells of 'Maga' and 'Trump' and horn honks.

But as far as those two twitter videos, well, what else would you expect in Texas.

Welcome to all the unfamiliar names. And welcome back to those I haven't seen in awhile!

BruceAndNosh · 31/10/2020 21:33

Trump junior retweeting that Trump supporters were "escorting" the Biden - Harris bus.
Aye, right.

lionheart · 31/10/2020 21:46

Thank you Roussette and let's hope we see tha wave.

Hello Merchant.

The bus harrassment is awful.

This is brighter:

cleanprosperousamerica.org/young-voter-turnout/

TheNorthWestPawsage · 31/10/2020 21:47

Hello Merchant - I hope your return to MN will be a good omen! Smile

I'm feeling more hopeful tonight but that may be due to the wine Grin

DH (Lincoln Project groupie) says LP have said Virginia is one to watch as an indicator of how the election will go... they feel the divide in Va is representative of the US as a whole so how they vote this time is important. Not sure that I agree with that but coversely what do I know?!

lionheart · 31/10/2020 21:48

Again.

We're on the home run, let's stand together for a blue wave 🤗🌊 (Trump thread #107
gardenbird48 · 31/10/2020 21:53

I don't envy the good women of America - there's a rock and a hard place and you've got to choose between the two.

Roussette · 31/10/2020 22:14

Well..... one candidate has degraded women for decades, whether that be boasting about grabbing them by the pussy, or rolling back rights and benefits for women, and has a history of verbally attacking them...

and one candidate doesn't

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GetTheDoorFrank · 31/10/2020 22:28

Checking in to the hopeful blue blue blue sea of states very soon

lionheart · 31/10/2020 22:32

One is a predatory sleaze bag and the other not.

lionheart · 31/10/2020 22:33

From Reading, PA rally:

“If we win on Tuesday or — thank you very much, Supreme Court — shortly thereafter…”

borntobequiet · 31/10/2020 22:33

Thanks for the new thread. Ha ha to any dimwit trying to find an equivalence of female harassment between Trump and Biden. FFS.

gardenbird48 · 31/10/2020 22:41

@Roussette

Well..... one candidate has degraded women for decades, whether that be boasting about grabbing them by the pussy, or rolling back rights and benefits for women, and has a history of verbally attacking them...

and one candidate doesn't

did you see the interview where Joe Biden sets out his stall on women's rights? Allowing male bodied people to compete in female sports and take records and scholarships meant for women? Giving male bodied people full access to female single sex spaces? Giving the OK for 8yo children to transition their 'gender' with the inevitable resulting lifelong medicalisation and surgery? Don't get me wrong, I struggle to even look at Trump when he's speaking because he is so vile but Joe Biden is promising to remove women's rights with a charming smile. I really don't envy the choice.
KitchenConfidential · 31/10/2020 22:45

Checking in! I cannot wait for the next few days to be over!

lionheart · 31/10/2020 22:46

Candy and gin. Smile

I did not know that the Trump harrassers included those driving a hearse. Critical thinking with regard to optics maybe not their strongpoint.

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-election-2020/us-election-biden-bus-trump-supporters-texas-event-cancelled-b1477876.html

BruceAndNosh · 31/10/2020 22:59

Speaking of harassment by Trump supporters, apparently some are picketing Bill Barr's House because he hasn't had the Bidens arrested yet.
Poor Bill.

gardenbird48 · 31/10/2020 23:13

fortune.com/2020/10/15/biden-town-hall-transgender-rights-lgbtq-2020-election/

Obviously, as here in the UK there should be no discrimination against providing healthcare for transgender people. Any discrimination against transgender people regarding housing and work needs to be legislated against, but if you allow male bodied people to access female single sex facilities and sports, they are no longer single sex.

Single sex facilities, prisons, domestic violence shelters, changing rooms and bathrooms are needed for the safety and dignity of women. Regaining fairness in sports by not allowing people who have had the benefit of male puberty to compete in women's sports seems especially important in America when girl's access to education can be impeded. In Connecticut, two transgender athletes have won 15 individual girls championship races since 2017. This is preventing girls who haven't had the advantage of male puberty from being able to compete fairly.

As I said, it is a very difficult choice between the two candidates.

Roussette · 31/10/2020 23:13

gardenbird

There is no choice AFAIC. My opinion in general as far as the majority of women.

Biden has a lot of detail on specific plans to benefit women. Trump has nothing, no plans, just some arse licking women who like to talk of their success under the Trumpy administration. Biden will restore funding for Planned Parenthood, a source for women, equal pay, reproductive rights, choice... and the Violence against Womens Act... stalled in Repub controlled Senate in 2019. Biden plans to restore that quite rightly.

No candidate is perfect on every single issue for every person. There are choices, I know which mine is

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PerkingFaintly · 31/10/2020 23:15

@BruceAndNosh

Speaking of harassment by Trump supporters, apparently some are picketing Bill Barr's House because he hasn't had the Bidens arrested yet. Poor Bill.
Wha... ?

Is there a link for this? Sorry, it's just so nuts, I can't even...

BruceAndNosh · 31/10/2020 23:50

It's in atwwet from a Washington Post journalist Glenn kessler. Sorry I can't work out how to copy it.
Picket is small and peaceful

gardenbird48 · 31/10/2020 23:56

@Roussette

gardenbird

There is no choice AFAIC. My opinion in general as far as the majority of women.

Biden has a lot of detail on specific plans to benefit women. Trump has nothing, no plans, just some arse licking women who like to talk of their success under the Trumpy administration. Biden will restore funding for Planned Parenthood, a source for women, equal pay, reproductive rights, choice... and the Violence against Womens Act... stalled in Repub controlled Senate in 2019. Biden plans to restore that quite rightly.

No candidate is perfect on every single issue for every person. There are choices, I know which mine is

Trump is an absolute shocker and the plans for women from Biden sound great in theory but unfortunately if women are not allowed to be defined as a discrete group based on their sex (that doesn't include the interests and voices of male bodied people), the equal rights, pay etc will not mean much. Women's political voice is already being erased with women's elected positions being taken by male bodied people (New York). Politicians who were born male but are taking women's positions of influence tend to have different priorities than women - protecting reproductive rights are not an issue for people who are not female and will not be fought for in the same way.

Apologies for popping into this thread with no introduction - I hope it is not excessively bad form, I've come over from the MN feminist chat board where these issues are discussed in much detail with some shocking evidence as to how this is all to the huge detriment of women. Male bodied people/rapists being allowed to self identify into women's prisons, funding for rape shelters being withheld because they want to provide essential healing single sex services for women. etc etc.

America appears to be further advanced than the UK in the erosion of women's voices and, while Trump is beyond awful, Joe Biden's policies appear to be no better, if not worse, for women's interests.

TheClaws · 01/11/2020 00:14

Thanks for the new thread, Rousette. I did say this at the beginning of the last thread, but I'll try and post a bit more in the one, particularly as it's election time.

This tweet sums up for me how I feel about Trump and the people that could potentially elect him. Given he has been impeached, a number of close officials in his orbit have been jailed, and he has been enveloped by ongoing scandal from day one - how is it possible?

John W. Dean @JohnWDean 40min

It is extremely difficult for me to understand how Trump is even competitive in this election. Actually, it is frightening. Trump is tested. He is known. He is the most incompetent POTUS is modern America. He is a threat to America. How can voters not understand this basic fact?

AcrossthePond55 · 01/11/2020 00:37

As far as Biden vs Trump's 'policies' on women, a POTUS has no power to make laws nor unilaterally instigate policies in major domestic matters. That power lies with Congress.

Biden is an intelligent man who will have good advisors from all sides of any argument. I have confidence in him.

No fear-mongering or scaremongering is going to change that.

lionheart · 01/11/2020 00:42

The people who attended that PA rally have been left out in the cold, like the last supporters.