To think all those people calling the Welsh first minister a dictator can go eat their words...

[Allthestarsarecloser]

National lockdown looming next week:
www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/30/save-christmas-with-covid-lockdown-in-england-experts-say

There have been several threads on here calling Mark Drakeford a dictator, slagging off the welsh firebreak lockdown, commenting on the rules in wales.

Not looking quite so stupid now is he?

Aibu to think that the tories who criticised him can go eat their words? Boris has been missing in action again during the worst crisis in living memory, test and trace has failed etc

Yep, I think you're right.

I don't think anyone wants a lockdown (I definitely don't!), but two weeks would have been preferable while we had the chance... it seems like we've missed it and are in for a longer lockdown now

The threads I saw were because the rules in Wales are bonkers. You can buy vodka and hair dye, but you can’t purchase dummies or a potty for your kid.

@TeddyIsaHe except they were designed to stop people unfairly favouring supermarkets & trying to protect local businesses...

The Welsh government were slated because of what you could and couldn't buy not because of the lockdown.

What stores are potties protecting by not being sold?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4059254-To-think-that-Mark-Drakeford-is-a-power-mad-dictator

Except they weren’t just about the ‘rules’

No one knows what the fuck to do as this thing is a wildfire. Circuit breakers won’t stop it either. It’s just going to burn regardless.

[quote Allthestarsarecloser]@TeddyIsaHe except they were designed to stop people unfairly favouring supermarkets & trying to protect local businesses...[/quote]
There was no logic to that because people would just shop online for what they wanted.

@TeddyIsaHe my whole family is in wales and they all understood the rules. And that’s not the point of this thread as plenty has been said about the welsh rules.

This thread is pointing out that Drakeford was 1000% right & Boris is yet again missing in action, has failed & there’s another lockdown coming next week.

I mean, that thread is literally about what you can and can’t buy so

except they were designed to stop people unfairly favouring supermarkets & trying to protect local businesses

Weren't non essential shops closed? So no, people don't wait 2 weeks to buy something they could have bought in a shop they were already in buying food, they shop online. It was fucking stupid.

YABVU. He was rightly called that because of the ridiculous rules.

No, this thread is about Drakeford not being a power mad dictator. You said people were pissed off at him for doing the firebreak, everyone so far has said it was about the bonkers rules.

I haven’t seen anyone disagree that a lockdown needed to happen. I’m not sure why you’re getting so bent out of shape about this.

OMG do people actually read thread titles? Drakeford got slated by the tories in the press for calling a firebreak lockdown & he’s been proven right in his actions

except they were designed to stop people unfairly favouring supermarkets & trying to protect local businesses... oh, I didn’t realise online shopping especially from amazon had been made illegal as well? Oh, it wasn’t.

And just because a newspaper says it’s going to happen, doesn’t mean that it is. Tesco really did have to change their stance on sanitary products though....

But IME the press write a headline and then they run with it, and before we know it it’s being presented as fact. As much as there will be questions to be answered by the government after this, there also needs to be a huge media enquiry, because the media have been atrocious.

And reality is that no government in the world has found the right answer. So it’s very easy to sit there as a member of the public and say how it should be. I don’t like Boris Johnson any more than the next person, but I sure as hell wouldn’t want his job at the moment, would you?

But on here 99% were criticizing his rules within the firebreak rather than that itself. The only real comments on that were that 2 weeks wouldn't make much difference, which is true, and why we are now looking at longer than that.

Here’s the daily mail calling the firebreak ‘draconian’ www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8872201/amp/Welsh-Minister-Mark-Drakeford-snaps-criticism-firebreak-rules.html

So you’re annoyed about the papers not mumsnet?

Take everything the DM says with a pinch of salt, they’re just out to get clicks and sell newspapers, it’s only good for picking up dog shit with.

You started by talking about the threads on here in order to justify your criticism, now that the majority have disagreed that it had anything to do with the lockdown on here you’re now resorting to the Daily Mail.

I think the OP is angry at the English for discounting what the Welsh first minister did at the right time. Is that right OP

I don’t think we care, we only still think he’s an absolute nutter.and a dictator.
God help us, if we have the same ridiculous rules.
Christmas will be cancelled as there will be no presents

Actually it’s been both- threads on here & in the papers. There was one on here questioning what on earth wales was doing too. It’s just been general criticism of Drakeford whether about the ‘essential goods’ policy or the lockdown and now England are going into an even more draconian lockdown, probably for 4 weeks.

Well, I don’t actually think that two weeks will be long enough, and I don’t think that wales will be out of national lockdown by the 7th of November, whatever MD is currently saying to create headlines. But as I don’t live there I don’t really care. However, the draconian rules on what shops could and couldn’t sell was ridiculous. They should have worked all this out before they went into lockdown rather than spend most of lockdown quibbling about it.

Although I’ve been saying for years that irons are non-essential 😂

And Boris has majorly fucked it up. And is MIA again

I still stand by the fact the welsh first minister is a twat.