to think Jeremy Corbyn should be expelled from the Labour Party?

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The EHRC has found that the Labour Party was did not do enough to address anti-semitism to the extent that it breached the equality act, and could even be said to have accepted it. The leadership office is implicated in 23 occasions.

AIBU to think this is unacceptable and his place in the Labour Party is no longer tenable?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54730425

@CatsArePeopleToo

Wasn't a big fan of Corbyn, but it is obvious that he's "guilty" of "anti-semitism" because he stood up for free Palestine.

Oh stop it.

And liking an antisemitic mural and hanging out with holocaust deniers and laying a wreath on the grave of the Munich terrorists and describing Hamas as ‘friends’ and saying British Jews don’t understand English irony and not offering Jewish MPs any support when they were harassed and abused out of his own party and....

... And only this week Len McClusky told Peter Mandelson to go and "count his gold..." The Labour far left just do not get it.

I think they do get it

Just pretend they don’t ...

No. He should not.

Some of you seem to know the background to this pretty well, so can you help me out with a genuine query?

I’ve not been following this in much detail but I’m sure I saw news stories yesterday hinting that the report was going to exonerate the Labour leadership and that some of Corbyn’s sidekicks were already feeling vindicated. Did I imagine that? Or misunderstand? Or was something weird going on?

The Tories can be investigated in exactly the same way by the same board and if they are and the same result happens then is the time to discuss that .

Not on this thread because it detracts from all those who were crying out for change / help and were ignored .

The issue was not just that Labour under Corbyn failed to tackle the problem sufficiently - though that in itself is a huge failure - the really damming part of the report is evidence that there was political interference in which complaints investigated or dismissed, as well as interference in the investigatory process and the outcome. That interference came from within the leadership of the party, and on occasions, from corbyn’s office itself

Exactly

But yes, if it means saving his skin I expect Corbyn will resort to the usual political trick of "I didn't know ..."

expect Corbyn will resort to the usual political trick of "I didn't know ..."

He can try but it won’t wash.

@LearnedResponse

Some of you seem to know the background to this pretty well, so can you help me out with a genuine query?

I’ve not been following this in much detail but I’m sure I saw news stories yesterday hinting that the report was going to exonerate the Labour leadership and that some of Corbyn’s sidekicks were already feeling vindicated. Did I imagine that? Or misunderstand? Or was something weird going on?

You might have seen people sarcastically retweeting old Rachel Swindon (corbyn crazy) tweets? She was saying that, and a lot of people were laughing about it because it clealry wasn’t going to go well.

Corbyn’s team knew they would be screwed, which is why they immediately started slandering the EHRC after the investigation was announced. People close to corbyn were saying it should be disbanded, etc

Not just suspended, but
also has now had the Labour whip removed.

Corbyn will have to stand as an Independent if he wishes to contest the next General Election.

expect Corbyn will resort to the usual political trick of "I didn't know ..."
He can try but it won’t wash

Maybe, maybe not - but a lot could depend on who's involved with the forthcoming "investigation" and whether Momentum are able to influence it

For now Corbyn's suspended rather than expelled, so it'll be interesting to see how his acolytes behave in trying to save their idol

anti-Semitism is sadly becoming more and more acceptable these days. It seems to be an acceptable form of racism.

I despair.

I noticed how in an interview earlier this evening, Jeremy Corbyn talked about condemning 'anti-semitism and all forms of racism', not 'anti-semitism and all other forms of racism'. Which said a lot to me.

As for his defence of having campaigned against racism all his life, that I believe to be true, but when he could directly act against it, he either chose to ignore it, or appointed people who did so.

Anyone who leads a party full of antisemitism, with Jewish members being threatened and driven out, and who fails to object, fails to act, fails to do one damn thing to deal with the problem - that person is quite obviously also antisemitic in my opinion.

Just look at his actions, his INactions and who his closest friends were - some of the most antisemitic in politics and indeed the world, including actual terrorists who routinely murder Jewish people and cheerfully celebrate it. How obvious does it need to be. For. Fucks. Sake.

These people who defend him 🤔 "this is Corbyn country" 🤮

I think JC and his supporters sincerely believe he is an anti-racist because they don't hold anti-semitism to be racism.

@CatsArePeopleToo

Wasn't a big fan of Corbyn, but it is obvious that he's "guilty" of "anti-semitism" because he stood up for free Palestine.

No, that is not obvious at all to anyone who actually followed the story. You do not help either antisemitism or the Palestinian cause when you talk such uninformed rubbish.

And they keep banging on about ‘legitimate criticism of Israel’ without once stopping to think whether it’s a bad look to be constantly criticising Israel while ignoring, I dunno, Assad using chemical weapons against own people (look at Corbyn’s response to that one).

@Danglingmod

I think JC and his supporters sincerely believe he is an anti-racist because they don't hold anti-semitism to be racism.

I think this about sums it up. No doubt the same people have BLM and pictures of them taking a knee all over Facebook and bookshelves full of diversity books to do their teams calls in front of.

Jewish people have been one of the most persecuted groups throughout history and whilst people defend the likes of Jeremy Corbyn it’s unlikely to change. I thank my lucky stars every day the man never made it to number 10 to act as a puppet for momentum.

I don't think he has been suspended from the party because of what he did as leader.

I think he has been suspended because of his reaction to the report. Instead of acknowledging that mistakes were made and that he played a significant role in creating the culture that allowed those mistakes, he is minimising the extent of the problem.

@merrymouse I agree with you. All he needed to do was apologise to the Jewish Labour members who had been hounded out of the party. He was the leader of the party at the time so the buck stopped with him, regardless of how personally anti-Semitic he is or isn't.

I for one just want Corbyn and everyone in Labour who thinks the Jews and Blairites are the main enemy in the country to just quietly leave politics and have happy lives in obscurity.

I think JC and his supporters sincerely believe he is an anti-racist because they don't hold anti-semitism to be racism.

That's exactly right. They regard almost all Jews as being part of the problem they are fighting against.

Jeremy Corbyn talked about condemning 'anti-semitism and all forms of racism', not 'anti-semitism and all other forms of racism'.

He has always done this and it's clear that it is deliberate and somehow necessary for him. It's the exact equivalent of replying to "black lives matter" with "all lives matter".

’It's the exact equivalent of replying to "black lives matter" with "all lives matter”.

Yes