Crash! Boom! Bang! - Car accident, who's at fault?

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Had a car accident earlier. Wondering what your thoughts are.

Car A had slowed down to turn into the first road on the right and was indicating.

Car B was turning left .

Not unusual to have a steady stream of traffic (lights further up the road.

Car A began turning. Car B ploughed into the side of Car A. Both drivers accusing the other. Both vehicles I'd think are write-offs.

Obligatory drawing - yes, I'm shit at drawing!

Car A

Like others have said, assuming A had started to move before B pulled out then B was at fault.

I think it's hard to say on the information alone without distances between the two side roads etc.

Had A come to a stop before making their right turn when they saw a gap in traffic? Or had they just slowed down to make the turn and didn't actually come to a stop?

right of way depends on the exact timing, while B is behind their giveway lines A has priority as turning from a major to a minor. But as soon as B is on the major road, they have priority as progressing along a major road.
Either way though, B should not have already been going at such a speed they could not stop in time! In insurance claims it seems mostly the car that does the hitting is at fault over the car that is hit and here clearly B hit A.

It seems bizarre that such a bad collision occurred at all. As they would (presumably) both have been at very low speeds you'd have thought B would have braked in time. Unless B was established in the maneuver first and then A veered in front?

Depends on the timing. I think both drivers misjudged the situation a bit.

Unless the damage is at the back of car A, I would say car A is at fault. Car B has emerged from a side road onto a main road and A has crossed its path. If the damages is at the rear of car A then it's B's fault as A was already making the manoeuvre when hit.

Car B was in the wrong. They obviously didn't wait until the road was clear before entering it.

Either way though, B should not have already been going at such a speed they could not stop in time! In insurance claims it seems mostly the car that does the hitting is at fault over the car that is hit and here clearly B hit A.

Well that depends, surely? If you're driving along and someone pulls directly into your path, you're not necessarily going to have time to stop, whether you're going at 5mph or 50.

Car B is at fault - car A had right of way.

Like others i initially thought B, but then realized B must've already joined the main road before A turned to the right, for a collision to occur
So A..

That's if the gap between both side roads are proportionally accurate of course!

Im saying B but it depends in how big the gap is between the road b came off of and A was going into.

if B was on the main road then A did not have right of way but i think the gap was tiny and B was on a drive or something and therefore did not have right of way.

@ApolloandDaphne

Car B was in the wrong. They obviously didn't wait until the road was clear before entering it.

How do you figure that? Sounds to me like car A turned directly into B's path, which is why they got hit side on.

B

What's the distance between the road car A was pulling into and the road car B was pulling out of?

Depends who started their manoeuvre first. If they both pulled out at the same time the insurance companies will likely accept shared fault. If B pulled out first then A is at fault because the road wasn’t clear when they started their manoeuvre. If A pulled out first then B is at fault for driving into A.

Do you have any witnesses? The fact that B drive into you goes in your favour if it’s your word against theirs. You didn’t drive into anyone.

Car B is at fault.

Too many variants from the info given.
A could have turned into B's path or B could have come round the corner like a bat out of hell.
The investigators will work it out.
(This is why I have dashcams)

I’d guess B was looking to the right when he pullen out and then immediately hit you without seeing you? Rather than building up speed and then hitting you.

You could see him and he would naturally be looking the other way to join traffic so you may be able to persuade the police/insurers it was B’s fault.

Do you have any witnesses? The fact that B drive into you goes in your favour if it’s your word against theirs. You didn’t drive into anyone.

No, A drove into B's path and got hit head on. A shouldn't have turned right as the road clearly wasn't clear or safe.

Car B is at fault as should of seen car A indicating to turn right.

@vanillandhoney

Do you have any witnesses? The fact that B drive into you goes in your favour if it’s your word against theirs. You didn’t drive into anyone.

No, A drove into B's path and got hit head on. A shouldn't have turned right as the road clearly wasn't clear or safe.

I mean A got hit side on with B hitting them head on.

Yep, A could argue they were there first and B didn’t check the road was clear., etc

B could argue that A swung across in front of them with no warning after B had pulled out.

Insurance are fairly likely to say 50/50.

I had a twat reverse into the side of my car and my insurance tried to get me To accept 50/50! Sometimes even your own insurance company is not your friend.

Unless the two side roads are bizarrely close together, it’s blatantly a’s fault. Car b is already out of the junction and on the major road when a turns across it. The only way this couldn’t be is if the two side roads are so close together so that the manoeuvres are simultaneous, or if a pretty much stops in the middle of oncoming traffic.

Surely if B was going fast enough to plough into the side of A then B was already on the main road as well so A would be at fault . If it had been me I think I’d have taken lots of photos with the cars in the position they crashed in and the road layout and let the insurance decide . I reckon it will end up as a knock for knock because it can be argued both ways .

Car B I think, they were joining a road. Car A had priority because they were already on the road were the crash occurred.