Crash! Boom! Bang! - Car accident, who's at fault?

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Had a car accident earlier. Wondering what your thoughts are.

Car A had slowed down to turn into the first road on the right and was indicating.

Car B was turning left .

Not unusual to have a steady stream of traffic (lights further up the road.

Car A began turning. Car B ploughed into the side of Car A. Both drivers accusing the other. Both vehicles I'd think are write-offs.

Obligatory drawing - yes, I'm shit at drawing!

Car A

B at fault...spending too much time gawping at what might be coming to prevent them from pulling out and not checking they were safe to proceed

How did b hit a if they were turning left? Were a cutting the corner? Can't see how else it would happen.

Car B at fault.
Which one was you op?

How wide is the side road? Assuming both were in position , car A should only have moved if their exit was clear and turned wide enough to allow car B to exit left.

Car B, as Car A has priority.

Car B.

Car B at fault I think as car A is already on the major road.

B is at fault,

but rather annoying for car A that their insurance will undoubtedly agree 50/50 and increase their premiums.

What PolPotNoodle said. It's down to timings. B is at fault if they pulled out when the OP says they did, but depending upon the distance between the two side roads, they can easily claim that A turned in front of them without waiting for a safe gap when they (B) were already driving along the main road.

Do you have a dashcam OP?

Car B is at fault and I don't even drive.

But was car b on the main road as well by that time and a was crossing its path?

Either car could be at fault. Depends who was in the "empty" lane of the main road first.

I understand that B is on the minor road, but, for an extreme example, if B had pulled out before A was at the point where they would have begun the turn, then A would certainly be at fault.

Without independent witness or dashcam, either could be at fault.

Hang on everyone.

For B to hit A, then B must have already turned onto the main road, so then B was proceeding down the road and A turned across in front of them.

I think A saw the gap in traffic and started to turn at the same time B saw the same gap and turned and filled the gap. If A was a bit slow in turning then they would have cut across B.

If car B had already turned left into major road, car A should not be turning right into the nearer side road without the major road being clear.
Which side of A was hit - driver side or passenger side and how far down the car was the impact? If A's driver front was hit, that could imply A turned before making sure the road was clear. If A's passenger side was hit, it implies the manoeuvre was virtually complete therefore B drove into them.
Mark out who was damaged where and let the insurance decide.

Car A, the fact B pulled out of a side road further up was irrelevant, when they hit A they were on the main road and A crossed their path so A is at fault

Car B

Oh misunderstood. B was coming from the next turning down . A would have had priority, unless B had already turned the corner when A moved across.

Car B. Please say you're A.

Hope you're not hurt

B, if they weren’t already on the main road was jointing recklessly.

B, if A had been sat indicating ready to turn and saw a clear space as B still wasn’t paying clear attention after only just joining to be going at enough speed to write off two cars I’d say.

Surely A is at fault, B must have been proceeding on the main road by the time A turned to cross the carriageway.

Honestly, I don't think it's entirely clear.

Who started their manoeuvre first?

If they were both going for the same gap in traffic, then B may well have moved before A. Then A would be at fault.

Car B is at fault. Car A had the right of way. Hope you aren’t hurt.

So A was turning into the first road on the right.
B was emerging from the second road on the right and crashed into Car A's passenger side.

Is that right?

Problem is B could quite possibly say they were on the main road and that A just turned into a side road right in front of them? Without a dash cam it could be hard to prove. People are not always honest in these situations.

If B was already on the main road or had already started the manoeuvre to turn out then A is at fault for cutting in front of them.
Was A indicating? If A was not indicating then B would have assumed A was driving straight on.

If A had begun the turn before B emerged from the minor road then B is at fault.

Difficult to tell which scenario is corrected based on the drawing.